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Title: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 15 November 2007, 22:49:00
Hi, newbie here, bought my first Omega this week - a 98 CDX estate with full leather etc.

So far so good with it, drives really well just got a couple of problems with the heating (just when its turned really cold).

The heated seat lights on the dash light up when depressed, but there's definitely no heat coming from the seats. Easy job to fix or something big?

Also, the car heating takes absolutely ages to get going and even at the highest setting is luke warm at best. Are these two problems linked?

Cheers
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 15 November 2007, 23:01:50
 The heated seats take a while to warm up - about 5 minutes, in my experience.
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: Jay w on 15 November 2007, 23:04:11
the lack of heat in the seat could point towards the heater pads being faulty in the seats, it's not uncommon for them to fail.

as for the heater that could be any number of things i wonder if the heater bypass valve (also know as the HBV) is playing up, if you have climate control then this controls the heat into the car, the other alternative could be the vac pipes that feeds the HBV.

the HBV is mounted at the back of the engine bay if yours is a V6 then it is behind the plenium
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: sophos9 on 15 November 2007, 23:08:22
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Also, the car heating takes absolutely ages to get going and even at the highest setting is luke warm at best. Are these two problems linked?

Cheers

What does you engine temperature read? Warm the car up then leave it idling for about 5mins, is the heater warm then?
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 15 November 2007, 23:22:07
Temp is 90ish on the gauge when fully warmed up. From cold this morning it took ages for the temp to read above zero.

AFter half an hour it is luke warm at best on the highest setting, which is ok but too noisy. I would expect to melt at 27 degrees! It does have climate control, not too sure about how to tackle the HBV.

I will leave the heated seats on for a while, but am sure have given them over five minutes so far.
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 November 2007, 06:51:07
I wonder if some cowboy has removed the thermostat internals....
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: bigdods on 16 November 2007, 10:28:38
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Temp is 90ish on the gauge when fully warmed up. From cold this morning it took ages for the temp to read above zero.

AFter half an hour it is luke warm at best on the highest setting, which is ok but too noisy. I would expect to melt at 27 degrees! It does have climate control, not too sure about how to tackle the HBV.


I had the same problem on my old CDX, either cold air (if set to 27 or below) or toasty hot air if set 1 level above 27 on HI. If you set to HI do you get hot air ? I never got around to fixing mine as I sold it on, but I think that you need to check the fan on the internal temp sensor. Its behind a grille above the climate controls. I'm no expert, just repeating something I read on here the other day. Do a search and you should find the original thread.

Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: sophos9 on 16 November 2007, 11:14:18
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Temp is 90ish on the gauge when fully warmed up. From cold this morning it took ages for the temp to read above zero.

AFter half an hour it is luke warm at best on the highest setting, which is ok but too noisy. I would expect to melt at 27 degrees! It does have climate control, not too sure about how to tackle the HBV.

I will leave the heated seats on for a while, but am sure have given them over five minutes so far.

Is your car a 2, 2.5 or 3 litre? Take your car for a drive, get it up to temperature. Park the car and let it idle for about 5mins - does the air blow hot?
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 16 November 2007, 14:53:00
It's 1 2.5l. Have just taken it for a half hour run and still only luke warm at best. Elec seats most definitely do not work!
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: sophos9 on 16 November 2007, 14:55:25
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It's 1 2.5l. Have just taken it for a half hour run and still only luke warm at best.

Have you stopped and let the car idle for 5mins then checked the temp of the air?

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Elec seats most definitely do not work!

All elec seats or just the drivers? The drivers has failed in my, no point in getting it fixed as its a pain in the a$$
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 16 November 2007, 16:09:27
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It's 1 2.5l. Have just taken it for a half hour run and still only luke warm at best.

Have you stopped and let the car idle for 5mins then checked the temp of the air?

Not yet, how would that make a difference? (excuse my ignorance)

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Elec seats most definitely do not work!

All elec seats or just the drivers? The drivers has failed in my, no point in getting it fixed as its a pain in the a$$

Both front seats
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: Mike Collins on 16 November 2007, 16:51:21
Slow engine warm up most likely is thermostat. Poor cabin heat could be airlock in heater matrix, I'm having a lot of difficulty clearing my 2.5 of air after a coolant change.

According to the info you need to disconnect the upper pipe to the matrix, then fill at the pipe untill liquid escapes from the stub.

Odd that all my previous V6 have been OK just filling at the header tank.
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: sophos9 on 16 November 2007, 16:58:22
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Both front seats

Apart from pulling apart I would say buggered mate.... Have u got climate control? If so have you tried a reset - hold down AUTO and OFF  :-?
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 16 November 2007, 17:14:08
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Both front seats

Apart from pulling apart I would say buggered mate.... Have u got climate control? If so have you tried a reset - hold down AUTO and OFF  :-?

Yes, it does have climate control - will give it a try tomorrow. Is that likely to work?

As the seats are leather they are stone cold, especially with the heating not really working.
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: sophos9 on 16 November 2007, 17:39:19
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Yes, it does have climate control - will give it a try tomorrow. Is that likely to work?

Possible but please dont get your hopes up  :-[

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As the seats are leather they are stone cold, especially with the heating not really working

Join the club,  ;D
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: vegasgo on 17 November 2007, 23:09:08
Tried to re-set, didn't work. Will need to look into the matrix thingy but I don't know where to look!

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but should the climate control only produce heat when the car is warmed up, or should it produce heat straight away from cold?
Title: Re: My first Omega - couple of heating problems
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 November 2007, 23:15:55
The engine has to be warm. I find it doesn't start the fan until the engine is warm enough for useful heating - about 1/2 a mile up the road for me.

Kevin