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Title: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: wayneywoo on 29 November 2007, 22:07:08
Hey All,

Everytime I start the car, I get the message "Brake Pad" on the computer.  Can someone explain what's going on here please?

Many thanks!

Wayne
Hemel
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: dbug on 29 November 2007, 22:18:26
Replace your brake pads they're worn!!!



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Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: wayneywoo on 29 November 2007, 22:20:29
Previous owner said he just had the pads changed and went through the MOT no probs...

He said something about sensors but I wasn't paying too much attention  ::)
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: dbug on 29 November 2007, 22:22:57
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Previous owner said he just had the pads changed and went through the MOT no probs...


Maybe he just said he did!!  Low pads can and do pass MOT brake test!
If u are sure pads OK then maybe pad sensors breaked!!

Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 29 November 2007, 22:38:36
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Hey All,

Everytime I start the car, I get the message "Brake Pad" on the computer.  Can someone explain what's going on here please?

Many thanks!

Wayne
Hemel

Check that the sensor wire hasn't come out of the pad mate, I bought new pads myself when the "Check Pads" came up on mine, only to find when i removed the wheel that the wire had come out ::)
The sensors are only on the front pads (one each side). If the sensor wire is broken they are less than £10 from Vauxhall anyway :y
This link shows a picture of a front pad where the sensor pushes into.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1192573698
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: wayneywoo on 29 November 2007, 22:40:44
Thanks Loo-Knee  :y

I shall investigate tomorrow.

Wayne
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Missy_MV6 on 30 November 2007, 06:47:30
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Previous owner said he just had the pads changed and went through the MOT no probs...

He said something about sensors but I wasn't paying too much attention  ::)
We changed our pads with non-vauxhall ones which means the brake pad sensors are not used and because of this the brake pad warning is displayed. A friend told us to wrap the 2 sensor wires (on each sided) together and the warning should go off.Tried it and it didn't.
Unfortunately in your case you don't really know if the pads have been changed or not.
You could buy some Vauxhall ones and get them changed just to be on the safe side. ;)
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Jimbob on 30 November 2007, 08:27:07
disconnected ours by unplugging the sensor, sticking a paperclip in the sensor socket, wrap in tape, works perfectly.
No error message  :y
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: wayneywoo on 30 November 2007, 08:42:41
How much are the genuine Vauxhall pads just out of curosity?

Thanks for all the replies people!

Wayne
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 November 2007, 11:15:34
£21.55+Vat retail per axle set....plus sensors.
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: davlad22 on 30 November 2007, 15:48:36
new sensors are only a few quid.
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Tony H on 01 December 2007, 14:06:05
Pads are on the trade club list :y
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: wayneywoo on 01 December 2007, 16:20:29
So how much are the pads to a trade club member?

Anyone near Hemel Hempstead have a Trade Club membership?
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: TheBoy on 01 December 2007, 16:25:40
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So how much are the pads to a trade club member?

Anyone near Hemel Hempstead have a Trade Club membership?
About £12 + VAT from memory.

You can get TC membership for £20 per year by joining Autobahnstormers ;)
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Andy B on 02 December 2007, 22:35:39
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We changed our pads with non-vauxhall ones which means the brake pad sensors are not used and because of this the brake pad warning is displayed. A friend told us to wrap the 2 sensor wires (on each sided) together and the warning should go off.Tried it and it didn't.
Oh dear! Yet more dis-information. Neither OEM nor pattern pads come with sensing wires fixed to the pads. (I know that Fords of the early 80's came with or without wires embedded in to the pads - maybe you had a Ford of the early 80's :-/) If you were to look through the many many repeated questions & their answers you'll find that the sensor wire(s) are completely seperate from the pads. One end clips onto the butterfly anti-rattle clip fixed to the pads & the other plugs in under the front wing. If you bare the wires to a 'used' sensor & short the 2 ends together it WILL fool the brake pad check system. Tried it and it DID  ::)


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Unfortunately in your case you don't really know if the pads have been changed or not.
You could buy some Vauxhall ones and get them changed just to be on the safe side. ;)
How about checking them the old fashioned way and remove the wheel & have a proper look at both pads! That way you'll really know if they've been changed! :-?
The last time my low  pad warning check was displayed I'd still at least half of each pad left.
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: davlad22 on 02 December 2007, 22:39:52
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The last time my low  pad warning check was displayed I'd still at least half of each pad left.
That correct operation?
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Andy B on 02 December 2007, 23:10:17
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The last time my low  pad warning check was displayed I'd still at least half of each pad left.
That correct operation?

The sensor worked fine & worked as well as expected, however as with a lot of cars there is a lip at the edge of the disc where the pads don't quite reach the edge, so the unworn bit of disc wears through the sensor earlier than it would have done if the disc was new. There were miles of brake pads left (5000 IIRC  ;) )
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: Andy B on 02 December 2007, 23:11:26
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The last time my low  pad warning check was displayed I'd still at least half of each pad left.
That correct operation?
Without going outside to look  ::) .... how many miles of pads are left at the back of your car? No sensors there.  ;)
Title: Re: Brake Pad message on MID
Post by: TheBoy on 03 December 2007, 07:52:50
The warning should come up at about 2/3rds wear.  Front pads shouldn't really be taken down much further.

It is possible to use an old sensor and short it out to to stop the message, but thats a bit of a bodge imho - why not just replace the sensor?