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Title: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 12 December 2007, 22:26:46
Hi Guys,

I've been pulling my hair out recently looking for some new rubber for my MV6.  I really want Continental Sport 2's as the car came with them, but can't really afford £110 per corner.  So i've found a source which sells a pair of Goodyear F1's for 166 notes.

What's the gen on F1's on the Omega and can i have them all round ie: Is the F1 tread safe on the front?

I have scanned the web/OOF from top to bottom but can't seem to find any solid info, well not enought to get the money out of my bank!

Any input on this would be great as i need to get some rubber by the weekend.  I've also considered buying x4 MV6/Elite rims with rubber from a breaker.  I did this on my 2.0 a while back and managed to replace all 4 worn tyres and corroded GLS alloys for nearly new CDX ones.  The lot cost £170!  :y



Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 12 December 2007, 22:32:34
I went to get my tracking done yesterday and picked up a booklet which had several tyres all doing a test, and a tyre i have never heard of won
i will find it then post the tyre
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Jay w on 12 December 2007, 22:36:37
the Goody F1 is one of the best performance tyres you can get, but be warned they are soft tyres and if you get more than 10K out of them on a miggy they you will doing well
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 12 December 2007, 22:42:32
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the Goody F1 is one of the best performance tyres you can get, but be warned they are soft tyres and if you get more than 10K out of them on a miggy they you will doing well


As low as 10k?? WOW!

Not too sure how the Conti 2's compare as i've been a bit of an idiot and let all 4 of them run at 23/25 psi for a long quite a while - long enough to f**k them up!  :'(

I spent all that time and effort doing my LPG, cambelt and rust proofing and yet i let a schoolboy error like this slip through the net...  >:(

So £160 for a pair of soft Goodyear F1's is a bit of a false economy then?

Cheers
Marc
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 12 December 2007, 22:42:47
The Magazine is Powercar.

the test was between,
Continental Sport Contact 3, Dunlop SP Sportmaxx, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric, Hankook Ventus S1 Evo,
Michelin Pilot Sports 2, Pirelli P Zero Nero, Toyo Proxes T1 R, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta.

the test was aquaplaning, braking, driving safety, cornering, slalom, comfort...

Vredestein were the overall winner.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 December 2007, 22:48:46
Just put a couple of Sportmaxx on mine. 94 quid a pop fitted and balanced, IIRC.

Kevin
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 December 2007, 23:01:13
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The Magazine is Powercar.

the test was between,
Continental Sport Contact 3, Dunlop SP Sportmaxx, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric, Hankook Ventus S1 Evo,
Michelin Pilot Sports 2, Pirelli P Zero Nero, Toyo Proxes T1 R, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta.

the test was aquaplaning, braking, driving safety, cornering, slalom, comfort...

Vredestein were the overall winner.
:o :o
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Weds on 12 December 2007, 23:16:44
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Hi Guys,


What's the gen on F1's on the Omega and can i have them all round ie: Is the F1 tread safe on the front?

I have scanned the web/OOF from top to bottom but can't seem to find any solid info, well not enought to get the money out of my bank!

  :y




I used to have Goodyear F1 all round on my previous 3ltr Elite, I loved them, very grippy in dry or wet, but, there's always a but, they were quite expensive and a bit soft, expect high wear rate, I suppose thats the trade off for being grippy.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 12 December 2007, 23:47:23
It's just one of those things... more money now, less tomorrow.  But just beore xmas i think i'm going for the cheaper ones.  :(

I found Dunlop SP2000 E 235/45 R17 Y  for £78.99 fitted at blackcircles.com, nearly 1/2 that of teh conti's, so can't be that bad... ?

http://www.blackcircles.com/information?modelid=234918&cid=&productid=294976

I'm sure Mark DTM said he used Avon tyres a while ago, but can't seem to find the evidence, mayeb Avon need a look?
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: hotel21 on 13 December 2007, 00:02:11
I have F1's all round on mine, good grip, wet or dry.  They do wear but the grip is from rubber tyres, not million mile plastic Michelins .....  Last fronts were less than 9k but alignment was out.....   New ones went on the rear, old rears on the front.  FNS shoulder wearing quickest - but I put that down to living in a roundabout covered town.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 December 2007, 08:33:49
Give ETS a call.......cheaper than black circles.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: shyboy on 13 December 2007, 08:38:28
Call me stuffy if you like, but I buy modestly priced tyres every time and would be horrified if I only managed 10/15k out of them, because I'm not interested in driving to the limit as I suspect some forum members are. My tyres never have to cope with 'sideways' driving, or keeping the back end in line when cornering, and even the cheapest seem to do 30/35k regularly. And I don't notice any real problems with tramlining and other such instability.
Boring? OK. But not only do I enjoy economy, I also tend to get fewer component breakdown problems because they are seldom sretched to their limits.
By the way, I'm currently using 4 'Maxxis' tyres. Never seen them before, but they behave perfectly well on my 2.0l tourer estate.
Cheers,
Bill.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Jay w on 13 December 2007, 10:51:56
if i can get more than 20K out of a set of tyres then i would consider them to be a good set of tyres.....

I don't rag the car, most of my mileage is motorway at about the legal limit, there is some A road stiuff that i do, but again that is morely dual carridgeway

I have Dunlop SP9090S fitted to the car currently, because i suffer from bad wear on the inside edge i have the local tyre centre swap them over when they start to wear, this was done last weekend.
So far they have done 15K, i would imagine they would last another 5k and then they will be dead on the edges.

I really should get up to WIM to get the suspension set up but spare time is not something i have  >:(
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 December 2007, 11:03:04
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I really should get up to WIM to get the suspension set up but spare time is not something i have

It's only an hour of your time and the cost of one tyre :y

Wish I'd done it before I'd trashed a set of fronts in 15k  :(

Kevin
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Jay w on 13 December 2007, 11:42:11
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I really should get up to WIM to get the suspension set up but spare time is not something i have

It's only an hour of your time and the cost of one tyre :y

Wish I'd done it before I'd trashed a set of fronts in 15k  :(

Kevin

I know, but with work being so busy i cant find the time and the weekends i am in Plymouth with the family.....

its gutting because i know a lot of my issues would be resolved.....
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: jules on 13 December 2007, 12:29:20
I wouldn't have anything other than F1's on the Hundy, I get about 15K on a set.

IMO they are the work out the grippiest tyres for the best money.

The hundy has 180 brake at the rear wheels and no TC etc, so I need all the help I can get  8-)

At the moment I'm undecided on whether I'll use them on the Omega as I don't intend hard driving.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 13 December 2007, 16:15:40
 Vredesteins are always highly rated, even without taking into account the price compared to Michelins and the like.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 December 2007, 17:01:45
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The Magazine is Powercar.

the test was between,
Continental Sport Contact 3, Dunlop SP Sportmaxx, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric, Hankook Ventus S1 Evo,
Michelin Pilot Sports 2, Pirelli P Zero Nero, Toyo Proxes T1 R, Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta.

the test was aquaplaning, braking, driving safety, cornering, slalom, comfort...

Vredestein were the overall winner.


I don't like Vredestein
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Paul M on 15 December 2007, 00:56:49
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the Goody F1 is one of the best performance tyres you can get, but be warned they are soft tyres and if you get more than 10K out of them on a miggy they you will doing well


As low as 10k?? WOW!

I chewed through a set in 6k miles in my Impreza... and that was all 4 tyres wearing almost identically with it being AWD.

They are very good tyres, I prefer Bridgestone S-02s although they too are soft and they're hard to come by now (superceeded by S-03s). It's all a trade-off between grip and wear rate, cost and performance etc. Personally I don't rate Continentals, they are often fitted as OEM but there are much better performing tyres out there IME. Likewise with Pirellis, had some real scary moments in the wet with P-Zeros in the past, which is incredible considering they're fitted to some real high performance cars as OE.
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 December 2007, 10:10:55
Well, after a few hundred miles with the SP Sportmaxxs on the front I've got so say I'm not that impressed. It wanders a bit on these whereas the SP2000Es that I had on before (allegedly superceded according to tyre outfit, but probably just out of stock) were rock solid.

I've yet to check how much air the tyre place put in them. Probably got about 45 PSI in them at the moment  ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: The Cambelt Kid on 15 December 2007, 18:10:42
This morning i didcovered that all 4 of my tyres were screwed!! Arrghhh  :(

So rather that spend over 400 notes just days before xmas, i decided to splash out £200 on a set of facelift Elite alloys and tyres from MegaVaux.  All four of them were Mitchelin Prem's with x3 alloys in mint condition, one was a little scratched up though.  Tread was 6mm on all of the tyres, so should be ok until middle of 2008  ;D

Not too sure if i prefer teh elite alloys to MV6 ones, but should be ok for now!

What's the gen on elite 17's, are they the prefered choice for Omegas?

Cheers for your input!

Marc (With a pretend Elite for now!)
Title: Re: Goodyear F1 all round
Post by: Mike_T on 15 December 2007, 18:58:00
Hi, Tyres are a nightmare but better to pay a little more and be safe, I had 4-225/55R16 95V Kumho's fitted at 62,230 and have now just had an MOT at 78,569miles and they all have 3mm left.
I had all 4 wheels set up with laser alignment when the tyres were fitted and it seams to have paid off, no doubt the the firm that did it were spot on. (hard to find these days)
The cost of the 4 tyres was 437.84 fitted and balanced including the wheel alignment.
Hope this helps !
Mike.