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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: loggies on 08 December 2007, 10:52:38
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Hello people....
New Omgea owner here and seeking some advice - cant find the answer in the FAQ.
Problem is i just bought a 2001 2.2CDX Automatic Trasmission Omega from a dealer - 3 weeks ago.
During the test drive there was a light on the dash of a car with a wrench - we were assured this was the 'service light' and would be gone when they service the car after purchase.
Loved the car so bought it and true enough the light was gone - for a day or 2..... At first it flashed upon engine starting and then it stayed on.
Our user manual said at this point it needed service as i think it was an electric fauly ??
So returned it to dealer who said it was an airflow issue with fuel getting to engine and they 'flushed' valves or something....
Well last night the light returned and i want to get some info on this problem before i call the dealer and fight the good fight again....
Anyone help???
Basically im not the most technical sort in the world so would like to know.....
What is that light REALLY for
What causes the problem
How it can be fixed - is it a big job
Cost
And is it a serious problem.....
Oh and HI - love the forum and used your passion for the cars in our decision to mnake the purchase ;)
Thanks in advance....
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Sounds like the supplying dealer is a good bullsh1tter! >:( The engine symbol with a spanner though it (Americans use wrenches ;)) is the Engine Managment Light and it's telling you there's a fault somewhere. You need the car plugging into a code reader to find out what the fault is.
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Firstly welcome to the site,
Apart from the light coming on, what if any are the symptoms?... poor idling, high revving, won't start etc....
DC
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Sounds like the supplying dealer is a good bullsh1tter! >:( The engine symbol with a spanner though it (Americans use wrenches ;)) is the Engine Managment Light and it's telling you there's a fault somewhere. You need the car plugging into a code reader to find out what the fault is.
I agree there is no such thing as a service light and the only sure way of diagnosing the fault is with a code reader.
Tell us the symptoms (if any) and where you are in the country as someone nearby might have a code reader.
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Cheers...
Starts fine, only symptons we can find are that sometimes when you start there is a lack of power - so a restart gives it the zip back.
Also i read that this light can increase fuel consumption???
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Sounds like the supplying dealer is a good bullsh1tter! >:( The engine symbol with a spanner though it (Americans use wrenches ;)) is the Engine Managment Light and it's telling you there's a fault somewhere. You need the car plugging into a code reader to find out what the fault is.
I agree there is no such thing as a service light and the only sure way of diagnosing the fault is with a code reader.
Tell us the symptoms (if any) and where you are in the country as someone nearby might have a code reader.
Im in northern ireland....taking it back to dealer on tuesday - they should do that test (hopefully)
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Cheers...
Starts fine, only symptons we can find are that sometimes when you start there is a lack of power - so a restart gives it the zip back.
Also i read that this light can increase fuel consumption???
Does the light go out after a restart? You say lack of power! Auto's drop into limp mode with a trans' problem and become sluggish....
DC
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The light is now on constant...
It can be sluggish - but with a restart goes back to normal - yet light stays on.
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You defintely need your fault codes reading -preferably by someone with tech2 (vaux own handheld reader)
Vxall will charge about £60 for this maybe more.
A good garage should? have he capability to at least read the fault codes and advise to possible problems.
My own 2.2 had similar problems to yours - established by tech 2 to be either egr or lamba sensor. Turned out to be both cost about £100+ to replace them
If you find someone with tech2 whilst they read your fault codes get them to check and if necessary upgrade your emu and autobox program. Takes about half an hour but then Vxall(bless them) have a minimum charge(half hour) to use the tech2 and reading the error codes takes about 30secs
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I have to agree with Bigall.... get the codes read..DC
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Print it out and take it to the dealer... definitely no 'service light'. And as said the engine fault codes need to be read.
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Cheers all!!!
Been VERY helpful.........
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Cheers...
Starts fine, only symptons we can find are that sometimes when you start there is a lack of power - so a restart gives it the zip back.
Also i read that this light can increase fuel consumption???
Sounds to me like the cam sensor is starting to fail.
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Cheers...
Starts fine, only symptons we can find are that sometimes when you start there is a lack of power - so a restart gives it the zip back.
Also i read that this light can increase fuel consumption???
Sounds to me like the cam sensor is starting to fail.
I have to agree with you there AA....we've both been there, seen that and bought the T shirt
;)
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Is that a major problem? Cost?
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Is that a major problem? Cost?
Replacement is fairly straightforward as it is at the front of the engine at the top end, not sure about cost but I would guess £60-£70 - AA or TD would know...
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The Vx P/N is 90520850
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this spanner light is refered on some models as a service soon light but also shows faults with immobiliser etc the dealer could of made an honest mistake!!
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this spanner light is refered on some models as a service soon light but also shows faults with immobiliser etc the dealer could of made an honest mistake!!
No, it's the cam sensor.
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Back again and none the wiser.....
Car was left with the dealer on monday who ran their tests and felt they now know how to repair....
Kept the car all week waiting for a part an 'ECU control unit or something linked to the gear box'??? Make any sense...
Got the call that we could collect the car late last night or forst thing this morning between 9 & 12....
As we pulled into the dealership at 11:45 got a call from them advising us that the light came on again!!!
So back to square one!!!
Is it true that their computer runs through a sequence of possible problems and they need to try each one individually until the hit the true problem?
Bascially told them we love the car but are not prepared to constantly be on the look out for this problem and there will have to come a point when they will stop repairing the car and start charging us....
Have to speak to sales manager about getting my money back.....
I know its probably going to be a long drawn out battle but dont know what else to do....
Any advice??
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Is the dealer a vaux garage? Did they use tech2 (real) to read any fault codes? If so get the codes and post on here someone will be able to translate them
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If you still are interested in the car suggest they , at their expense, send the car to a vaux garage for a FULL tech2 readout - preferably with someone who can handle tech2 efficently and a listing from them of the codes and probable/possible causes for reading (I cannot emhasise the importance of using someone with full knowledge of tech2 capability - anyone can read error codes - but translating them along with other codes and order of is a skill. Again post on here
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Back again and none the wiser.....
Car was left with the dealer on monday who ran their tests and felt they now know how to repair....
Kept the car all week waiting for a part an 'ECU control unit or something linked to the gear box'??? Make any sense...
Got the call that we could collect the car late last night or forst thing this morning between 9 & 12....
As we pulled into the dealership at 11:45 got a call from them advising us that the light came on again!!!
So back to square one!!!
Is it true that their computer runs through a sequence of possible problems and they need to try each one individually until the hit the true problem?
Bascially told them we love the car but are not prepared to constantly be on the look out for this problem and there will have to come a point when they will stop repairing the car and start charging us....
Have to speak to sales manager about getting my money back.....
I know its probably going to be a long drawn out battle but dont know what else to do....
Any advice??
It's a camsensor problem.
Are you anywhere near Nottingham, or Brackley in Northants.?
MarksDTM (Nottingham) TheBoy (Brackley) both have TechII's.
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They are a Vauxhall network q registered dealer in belfast....
Will mention the cam sensor issue...cheers