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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: stinking_gibbon on 18 December 2007, 19:48:41
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hi I am new to Omegas and want a fast one. I have been offered one supposedly at 280 bhp as standard. poice engine spec on the log book . is this a fairytale ? I was under the inpression the MV6's were 208 BHP . many thanks guys.
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hi I am new to Omegas and want a fast one. I have been offered one supposedly at 280 bhp as standard. poice engine spec on the log book . is this a fairytale ? I was under the inpression the MV6's were 208 BHP . many thanks guys.
That's more like it! Unless others know better!!!
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standard car is 208/211 bhp !! mine is pushing 250bhp but has been well played with bud !! ;)
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I thought as much . it is still a nice bus at 208, I do dislike being lied to though. it makes one wonder what else he lied about ?
I mean why would the filth wonna part for 280 bhp ? surely 200 is enough to catch a crim if you;ve got blue lights ...
did the cop's have different suspension ? or was that a porky pie also ?
cheers .
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hi m8 i have a 3.2 mv6 man and have just had it chip`d to 240. belive me thats enough. what a beast. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm sure these engines are capable of more with these ..
http://www.bishopsales.com/superchargers.html
problem is cost of supch and necessary proper engine mods for supch is very expensive..
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standard car is 208/211 bhp !! mine is pushing 250bhp but has been well played with bud !! ;)
Hey Markey-Mark what have you had done to your motor and how much Torque has it got, if it's pushing 250 bhp
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I thought as much . it is still a nice bus at 208, I do dislike being lied to though. it makes one wonder what else he lied about ?
I mean why would the filth wonna part for 280 bhp ? surely 200 is enough to catch a crim if you;ve got blue lights ...
did the cop's have different suspension ? or was that a porky pie also ?
cheers .
Whilst I agree with the sentiment .. it could be a simple typo ... 280 /208 ??? we all make smelling pistakes without realising it......
Let he who is without etec etc etc .. :)
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Could be an innocent mistake but the fact that he's talking about a "Police spec engine" makes me think he's full of it. :-X
It would need forced induction or steel internals, lots of revs and wild cams to get anywhere near that much power. Can't see the police being interested in either way.
Kevin
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he said to me over the phone 280 ! I made him repeat this 3 times as I was astonished.
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As Kevin said... I never heard of such a thing, and while it is always possible that some obscure police force out there decided to tune the engine, if this is true it will be very very rare... so I would check this carefully before believing it. Said that, Omegas are good car and if the price is right and the car is good than I would go for it even if it does not have a tuned engine....
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standard car is 208/211 bhp !! mine is pushing 250bhp but has been well played with bud !! ;)
Hey Markey-Mark what have you had done to your motor and how much Torque has it got, if it's pushing 250 bhp
decat full stainless chipped carbon shieled air filter 4bar pressure regulater ! dont know about torque as its auto hard to tell on rolling road !! but will spin in 1/2/3 in the wet so would imagine quite a bit !! looking into turbo/supercharger next or poss just a wet nos kit !! 8-) 8-)
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decat full stainless chipped carbon shieled air filter 4bar pressure regulater ! dont know about torque as its auto hard to tell on rolling road !! but will spin in 1/2/3 in the wet so would imagine quite a bit !! looking into turbo/supercharger next or poss just a wet nos kit !! 8-) 8-)
40bhp from exhaust, filter and chip [smiley=shocked.gif]. did you buy the parts from halfords? lol
imho, tuning the 3.0l (unless u have a VERY thick wallet) is a waste of time. would need the block bored, liners, pistons and rods custom fabricated before you even started thinking about boost. also no1 makes any decent cams so they would have to be custom made, then with standalone management on top of that plus a supercharger/turbo, your talking big big bucks for what i would guess would be 400 horse at the most.
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will be cheaper to drop LS engine..
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I agree. Of the few obviously weak parts on the V6 nobody seems to offer any tuning parts.
I'd like to try one on tubular exhaust manifolds for a start.
With most modern engines, if there's not an obviously bad intake system or exhaust system (bar the exhaust manifolds there's not on the V6 IMHO) you need to start porting the heads and changing cams to get more than perhaps 10% more power. For good emissions an engine needs to be designed for good swirl and airflow. That means small ports, valves, mild cams, etc. :'(
Kevin
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Yer but did not "Courtney Turbo's" do a twin turbo "Calibra V6 2.5" that was based on a 2.0ltr 4WD Calibra, that was 400+ bhp
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Yer but did not "Courtney Turbo's" do a twin turbo "Calibra V6 2.5" that was based on a 2.0ltr 4WD Calibra, that was 400+ bhp
Forced induction is a different matter entirely (and not a 5 minute bolt-on modification, either, especially at 400 BHP). I'd wager that engine was stripped rebuilt to a much higher standard, or short-lived. ;)
Kevin
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Yer but did not "Courtney Turbo's" do a twin turbo "Calibra V6 2.5" that was based on a 2.0ltr 4WD Calibra, that was 400+ bhp
Forced induction is a different matter entirely (and not a 5 minute bolt-on modification, either, especially at 400 BHP). I'd wager that engine was stripped rebuilt to a much higher standard, or short-lived. ;)
Kevin
Courtney did build a single low pressure turbo Omega Estate for the Garda to bring the performance back to a nomal 3.0 performance with all the police kit in the back 8-)
I was offered it for sale but lost the fella,s telephone No :-[
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Courtney did build a single low pressure turbo Omega Estate for the Garda to bring the performance back to a nomal 3.0 performance with all the police kit in the back
I heard about that. Hehe. Kind of "Doughnut compensation device" ;D
Wouldn't have fancied working on it. I bet it got a bit tight in the engine bay.
Kevin
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Courtney did build a single low pressure turbo Omega Estate for the Garda to bring the performance back to a nomal 3.0 performance with all the police kit in the back
I heard about that. Hehe. Kind of "Doughnut compensation device" ;D
Wouldn't have fancied working on it. I bet it got a bit tight in the engine bay.
Kevin
It did look a bit tight, the turbo was placed where the bagpipes are :-/
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and let me guess... It was due a cam belt change? ;D
I guess the exhaust must have been routed forwards to the turbo and then back again.
Kevin
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and let me guess... It was due a cam belt change? ;D
I guess the exhaust must have been routed forwards to the turbo and then back again.
Kevin
The engine was knocking like hell so I didnt know if I should bolt all the goodies to mine (full Irmscher kit, turbo) or swap the engine. Now Timbuk has his garage which came hold about 25 cars indoors and about the same outside I would probably swap the engine. Shame I lost the blokes contact details. I t someone on here that put me intouch but I can't remember who :'(
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The engine was knocking like hell so I didnt know if I should bolt all the goodies to mine (full Irmscher kit, turbo) or swap the engine. Now Timbuk has his garage which came hold about 25 cars indoors and about the same outside I would probably swap the engine. Shame I lost the blokes contact details. I t someone on here that put me intouch but I can't remember who
Wow! that's a serious garage. :-*
Sounds like the V6 didn't take to kindly to being Turbocharged then? Would have been an interesting project to play with. I'd have been tempted to rebuild it with a bit less compression and turn the boost up [smiley=evil.gif]
Kevin
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Sounds like the V6 didn't take to kindly to being Turbocharged then? Would have been an interesting project to play with. I'd have been tempted to rebuild it with a bit less compression and turn the boost up [smiley=evil.gif]
Kevin
Low comp is [smiley=thumbdown.gif]. high comp forced induction is the only way :y
i bet that twin turbo'd v6 would of needed rebuilt after ever session.
will be cheaper to drop LS engine..
Oi! less of the idea stealing lol thats what will be happening to mine once the suspension, brakes and diff are they way i want them. 4k for a brand new engine cant be argued with! granted it has to be imported from the other side of the world, and will prob be a headache getting it right, but it'll be worth it!
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to implement those ideas I also need a fuel station ;D
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Sounds like the V6 didn't take to kindly to being Turbocharged then? Would have been an interesting project to play with. I'd have been tempted to rebuild it with a bit less compression and turn the boost up [smiley=evil.gif]
Kevin
Low comp is [smiley=thumbdown.gif]. high comp forced induction is the only way :y
i bet that twin turbo'd v6 would of needed rebuilt after ever session.
will be cheaper to drop LS engine..
Oi! less of the idea stealing lol thats what will be happening to mine once the suspension, brakes and diff are they way i want them. 4k for a brand new engine cant be argued with! granted it has to be imported from the other side of the world, and will prob be a headache getting it right, but it'll be worth it!
I think that "Courtney Turbos" only did a few 2.5 V6 twin turbo engines, it was the cost of the job that put people off