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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Omegatoy on 29 December 2007, 19:18:40
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am presently upgradinga gls interior on a td estate(no not mine) to black leather and all electric windows etc etc, so the problem we have is have fitted and connected the rear window motors, no problem connected all the connectors up and got lights on all the switches etc fronts work fine but nothig at the rears? so am guessing that we have to either upgrade the main window controller? or fit a relay that allows the rears to work or maybe something else? only other clue is the door lights in the new interior also dont work with the interior light so what would that be?
I know a few people have dont the conversion so would be grateful for any advice
Omegatoy
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am presently upgradinga gls interior on a td estate(no not mine) to black leather and all electric windows etc etc, so the problem we have is have fitted and connected the rear window motors, no problem connected all the connectors up and got lights on all the switches etc fronts work fine but nothig at the rears? so am guessing that we have to either upgrade the main window controller? or fit a relay that allows the rears to work or maybe something else? only other clue is the door lights in the new interior also dont work with the interior light so what would that be?
I know a few people have dont the conversion so would be grateful for any advice
Omegatoy
duff switch by gearstick that disables rears?
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am presently upgradinga gls interior on a td estate(no not mine) to black leather and all electric windows etc etc, so the problem we have is have fitted and connected the rear window motors, no problem connected all the connectors up and got lights on all the switches etc fronts work fine but nothig at the rears? so am guessing that we have to either upgrade the main window controller? or fit a relay that allows the rears to work or maybe something else? only other clue is the door lights in the new interior also dont work with the interior light so what would that be?
I know a few people have dont the conversion so would be grateful for any advice
Omegatoy
duff switch by gearstick that disables rears?
possibly
but we tried turning it on and off a few times so dont think its that, the donor car had stood for a year before we stripped it so i guess the motors colud be stuck? got to admit it tried everything in the time we had but couldnt get a peep out of them so took the motor housings off to maually wind the windows back to closed position!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Graham, hi i have done thes conv and it was plug and play. The switch as jamie has said is where i would start and make sure that the switch connectors are all pushed home properly. as to why the puddle lights are not working then check the plug at the bottom of the b piller has not come apart [ this will also stop the windows from working] but you have prob already done this. good luck mate. :y
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I would still say the switch....
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Graham, hi i have done thes conv and it was plug and play. The switch as jamie has said is where i would start and make sure that the switch connectors are all pushed home properly. as to why the puddle lights are not working then check the plug at the bottom of the b piller has not come apart [ this will also stop the windows from working] but you have prob already done this. good luck mate. :y
yep pulled it all out again and checked the connections were tight but will do it again with some electrical cleaner i think,
thanks for putting me mnd at rest cos i thought i had missed something!!! so it seems its down to fault finding!! keep em coming chaps!!
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I would still say the switch....
ok then can we bridge it temporarily ???? :y
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I would still say the switch....
ok then can we bridge it temporarily ???? :y
Should be able to - would need to look at book of lies to see what power needs to be applied where...
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I would still say the switch....
ok then can we bridge it temporarily ???? :y
Should be able to - would need to look at book of lies to see what power needs to be applied where...
:y :y :y
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are the rear switches lighting up bud ?? ;)
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Can you check Fuse 7
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are the rear switches lighting up bud ?? ;)
yep rear switches lit up which is why we thought it should have worked!!!
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Can you check Fuse 7
fronts work are rears on a different fuse then??
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are the rear switches lighting up bud ?? ;)
yep rear switches lit up which is why we thought it should have worked!!!
if the rear switches are lighting up then you have power in the doors bud !! could be jammed motors !! ;)
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Can you check Fuse 7
fronts work are rears on a different fuse then??
Depending on the configuration, Fuse 7 controls rear windows and rear courtesy lights...
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Can you check Fuse 7
fronts work are rears on a different fuse then??
Depending on the configuration, Fuse 7 controls rear windows and rear courtesy lights...
aha!!! that could be worth a try!!!
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just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different??? ::)
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just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different??? ::)
i think they may be something to do with rear seat heaters, but dont quote me
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just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different??? ::)
i think they may be something to do with rear seat heaters, but dont quote me
phew thank god for that!!!
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that would be where the switches would be for heated seats... to either side of the cig lighter for def. Have them on my motor. So as an added bonus, pop down to the breakers, borrow some rear switches and there's an added extra for the car, keeping botties warm!
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something worth checking is the plug at the bottom of the b post because when i fitted my electric windoes to my facelift one of mine would not work and it turned out that one of the conecters bent on pushing the new plug in and would not power up ( the switch lite up aswell) although it is unlikely on both doors but you never no HTH
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HI
might be a long shot if you havent found it already, but you do need a neg on the motors to make em work just cos the switches are working dosnt mean you have a neg at the motor only means you have the 12v + from fuse 7 and as they are common linked might be worth checking as you have same issue on both rear. Also valid point about rear disable switch, if thats stuck open then nothing on rear will work but lights will still operate.
conections to motor on pre 2000 are ,1 is 12v+ straight from fuse 7, 2 is up, 3 is down and I think 6 is common with all window motors, being used as 12v all window closure from central locking. terminal 31 being ground.
hope it helps a bit
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The rear window 0V connection is via the X13 adn X14 which are the B post connectors i.e. not in the door.
As for the fuse, later models use F35......early ones F7
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thank you muchly guys!!!! we got it sorted after the fronts packed up on his way home, took it all apart again and cleaned all connectors with electrical cleaner checked all pins for straightness etc etc plugged it all in and everything is hunky dory!!! dont know which connector it was but by doing them all we made sure! :y
Omegatoy