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Title: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 14:22:14
as the title says, my headgasket has blown on my 2000 v reg 2.5 v6 auto engine (petrol). its pushing oil out constantly now which is smoking and burning off on the manifold which is quite annoying.

i need to know what parts i will need all in to replace the gasket. i'm guessing that valve stem seals, rocker gasket, o rings etc will have to be changed and the same time. has anybody ever had to do this, if yes, could you write a list of what i'll need and where the best place is to get it all from.

if anybody needs any more info before they can help me with my problem let me know and i'll reply straight away.

thanks everyone

Bren
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 January 2008, 14:24:47
If the main symptom is just the oil leak it's more likely the cam cover gasket that has gone. The head gasket is below the level of the exhausts and would be unlikely to leak oil anyway.

Kevin
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Dazzler on 21 January 2008, 14:29:10
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If the main symptom is just the oil leak it's more likely the cam cover gasket that has gone. The head gasket is below the level of the exhausts and would be unlikely to leak oil anyway.

Kevin
I agree, have a good check of the rocker covers ;)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 January 2008, 14:30:23
Do you have oil in the  header tank?
Do you have oil in the plug holes?

 If yes then for the first one, it is the oil cooler that has failed,
 If  yes to the second one then you have cam cover gasket failure and these are caused by blocked breathers on the plenium and oil vapour trap behind left hand cylinder bank.
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 15:12:25
thanks kevin, didn't know that.

gary, are you on about the spark plugs?

i have the oily-mayo substance all round the oil filler cap. its thick with it. the water in the header is cloudy but has no oil mixed in.

the oil is coming from the back of the engine on the drivers side near the brake servo.

does this bit of info help anymore?

thanks for your help so far lads ;)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: ghondie on 21 January 2008, 15:15:33
sounds to me like cam cover gaskets have gone, sure fire way to check is to un plug one of the spark plug leads, the wells will be filled with oil. if your confident with diy car stuff can be done in a couple of hours.

regards
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: MutantCav on 21 January 2008, 15:15:47
Mayo on filler cap is most likely because you do short journeys...is that right???

Oil leak will be cam covers...plug holes will be the spark plug holes mate :)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Craig_R on 21 January 2008, 15:18:43
Check your dipstick for mayo if its not on the dipstick it is what the other lads are saying
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 15:28:54
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sounds to me like cam cover gaskets have gone, sure fire way to check is to un plug one of the spark plug leads, the wells will be filled with oil. if your confident with diy car stuff can be done in a couple of hours.

regards

unplugged one and it is drenched in oil. i'm confident enough to do the job myself. thanks for your help!

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Mayo on filler cap is most likely because you do short journeys...is that right???

Oil leak will be cam covers...plug holes will be the spark plug holes mate :)

yes you're right!! lol! lovely jubbly!

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Check your dipstick for mayo if its not on the dipstick it is what the other lads are saying

dipstick is fine, no mayo substance.

lovely jubbly so far! thanks for all your help and input so far people, i really appreciate it.

so, now that we've isolated the problem, what parts do i need and where should i buy them from? you lot are the experts i'll follow all your advice and i'll get it fixed asap with your help. i will be doing the work myself but would still appreciate any ponters or any extra info you can give me.

thanks! :y
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Dazzler on 21 January 2008, 15:31:19
There is a 'maintenance guide' if you look in that section and it lists all the parts you will need including the correct sealent and it will tell you how to do it.
Goodluck ;)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Dazzler on 21 January 2008, 15:32:14
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281
Here it is
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: markey mark on 21 January 2008, 15:32:15
vauxhall only for cam cover gaskets !! iirc in tech or faq section is a list of parts and part numbers you need bud !! dont fit cheap gaskets or you will be doing them again in a few weeks !! :y
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: markey mark on 21 January 2008, 15:32:50
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281
Here it is
god you are quick kid !! ;D
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: ffcgary1 on 21 January 2008, 15:37:40
Dont forget to clean the breathers at the same time, as failure to do them will mean you have to do them again real soon.
 ::)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 15:39:56
lovely jubbly!

right, i'll get on the blower to vauxhall then and order all those parts listed on the other thread.

i'll keep you all updated.

let me know if any of you think of anything else i might need to know.

thanks once again!

p.s does anyone have the philips CCR 2000 stereo cd player? i think you'll all know what i'm about to ask..........
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: markey mark on 21 January 2008, 15:43:46
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lovely jubbly!

right, i'll get on the blower to vauxhall then and order all those parts listed on the other thread.

i'll keep you all updated.

let me know if any of you think of anything else i might need to know.

thanks once again!

p.s does anyone have the philips CCR 2000 stereo cd player? i think you'll all know what i'm about to ask..........

 talk to davednd hes the kiddie on them bud !! :y
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 15:45:50
in the other thread regarding the parts........

Rocker gaskets: 90511451, one set per bank (£25+ Vat retail)
O-rings: 90411826, 8 per bank (13p+ VAT retail)
Gasket, Inlet bridge to head: 90501652, 2 off
Gasket, Inlet to Inlet bridge: 90501653, 3 off
Gasket, Inlet to Plenum O rings: 9118135, 6 off
Sealent, Black (not the Green stuff!): 90485251, 1 off

when it sas, 2 off, 3 off 6 off etc what does that mean? sorry if it seems a stupid question, i just want to be clear about it.

thanks once again!
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: markey mark on 21 January 2008, 15:46:32
the amount of items needed to do job bud !! :y
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 16:10:41
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the amount of items needed to do job bud !! :y

thought so, was just making sure.

all in for all of those parts from my vauxhall dealer is £165.

if i dont order:-

Gasket, Inlet bridge to head
Gasket, Inlet to Inlet bridge
Gasket, Inlet to Plenum O rings

which i may not need it'll come to £84

do you reckon i should order just the:-

Rocker gaskets
O-rings
Sealent, Black

and try my luck? dont really want to waste £80!!
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: MutantCav on 21 January 2008, 16:11:52
Chances are the oil will have damaged your spark plugs and leads if leaking for a while so seriously worth thinking about changing them...if the leads are damaged they will end up taking out your dispack otherwise.
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: markey mark on 21 January 2008, 16:13:39
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the amount of items needed to do job bud !! :y

thought so, was just making sure.

all in for all of those parts from my vauxhall dealer is £165.

if i dont order:-

Gasket, Inlet bridge to head
Gasket, Inlet to Inlet bridge
Gasket, Inlet to Plenum O rings

which i may not need it'll come to £84

do you reckon i should order just the:-

Rocker gaskets
O-rings
Sealent, Black

and try my luck? dont really want to waste £80!!

should be ok bud done a few and not changed them !! :y
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 16:23:44
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Chances are the oil will have damaged your spark plugs and leads if leaking for a while so seriously worth thinking about changing them...if the leads are damaged they will end up taking out your dispack otherwise.

so i should change the leads aswell as all the other parts too?
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Mike Collins on 21 January 2008, 16:44:00
My local factors do a lead set for V6, around £45, Bosch I think. I have used them on two cars and not had a problem. Vauxhall price for leads is terrifying.
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: MutantCav on 21 January 2008, 16:56:28
Well you can try just cleaning the leads...
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: Entwood on 21 January 2008, 18:26:09
When you do the job.. where it says "remove the cable tray" .. make sure you do !! I had problems and tried to do it with the cable tray in place ... all that happened was I had to do the whole damned passenger side again ..leaked like a sieve on start-up .. with the cable tray still attached you can't get a smooth fit and will probably snag something like I did  :(

Only good thing was having done it once the second attempt took half the time !!

:)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 21 January 2008, 19:04:09
by the way, is there any way of finding out what code my engine is?

its a petrol 2.5 v6, does that mean its a C25XE?
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: TheBoy on 21 January 2008, 19:09:55
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by the way, is there any way of finding out what code my engine is?

its a petrol 2.5 v6, does that mean its a C25XE?
yours is X25XE
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: bren on 22 January 2008, 08:22:15
lovely jubbly thanks matey ;)
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: shyboy on 22 January 2008, 08:42:21
You can get a Vx Trade Club Card by joining Autobahnstormers for £20 p.a. Most Vx main dealers will then give TC prices on a range of service items and 10/15% trade discount on items not on the TC list.
I've recently done this work on my 2.6l. As Entwood says, do remove the passenger side cable tray completely and take your time.Double check at every stage.
Title: Re: headgasket has gone, help!
Post by: ians on 22 January 2008, 12:20:10
make sure you have a torque wrench that goes down to 8Nm before you start disassembling things..