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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Gwenhwyfar on 03 May 2007, 20:55:18
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Please can someone help. I am trying to find out how to change the ignition barrel on the omega. I think it is a 94 model (M reg auto). From what I can understand there is a hole in the chamber, but I can not find it to release the barrel. Please Please help. Direct me to the correct bit as I would very much like to have a car that did not look like it has been pinched. :-*
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Please can someone help. I am trying to find out how to change the ignition barrel on the omega. I think it is a 94 model (M reg auto). From what I can understand there is a hole in the chamber, but I can not find it to release the barrel. Please Please help. Direct me to the correct bit as I would very much like to have a car that did not look like it has been pinched. :-*
Sorry, I can't answer your Q, but just wanted to say welcome :)
I seem to recall this has been asked before, so someone will be along shortly with an answer :)
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On the senny and carltons on which the Omega is based you do it the following way cant see any reason for vxhal to change it?
Original key has to be in the intermediate position then if you look underneath at teh back of the lock/barrel you will se a small hole put a small drill bit or rivet in there and press gently the barrel and lock wil slide out then replace with the new one!
Omegatoy
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:)Thanks I will give it a go tomorrow and will let you know if it is a success
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:)On the side of the ignition body there is a hole.[about 1.5 -2-0mm]you need a drill bit to push into the hole to release the barrel..Use the key to pull the barrel out while the drill is in the hole
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Actualy, an allen key is easier as a drill bit is to long tpog et around teh steering lock...
But yes, key in position II, look above the cente of the barrel just below the steering column and you will see a hole, allen key in and it releases the latch......then catch it as it often springs it out! :o
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Looked every where for this hole, but cannot see one. Just to clarify that I am looking in correct place right side below steering column above key barrel. Anyone have pictures? :o
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Its quite small , just above the barrel and I would guess from memory about an 2-3cm from the key end of the barrel. Pushing an implement in to the hole releases a spring clip I think and with a bit of wriggling the barrel will pop out.
You have stripped off the plastic cover haven't you?
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Hi,do you have or have access to an omega haynes manual,if so chapter 10 section 23 tells you and also shows a pic.....tried to take a pic and post it,but not very clear...hope this helps...Wayne
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Photo:
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k129/matchless_pete/IMG_7233.jpg)
Pic shows steering wheel and barrel removed, should help you to find it though.
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Yes I have taken the cover off ;D Did vauxhall change the ignition in 94? I have been told they did and it is now a sealed unit? Is this wrong?
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Hi Gwen,
I have done this job myself on my 94 Omega and it was as described by others in the thread.
Does the pic make sense to you?
Do you have a spare barrel that you are going to install? If so if you hold it in the way that it will fit into the steering column housing there is a bit on the cyclindrical part of the barrel which pushes in a bit and is spring loaded. Your nail/allen key or whatever goes through the hole and pushes in this latch which releases the barrel.
Looking at my old barrel (sad barsteward that I am I always keep these old parts) the latch is 4cm from the outer face of the barrel (where the key goes in).
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Thanks Guys you all help so much :-* The picture made alot of difference. Now all I need is a new one ;D. Just spent 2 hours at the scrap yard. The guy said he had one and that it was self service with the keys in the cars. Did they have one Nope I even climbed 3 cars to look, but not one vauxhall had a ignition with a key in it >:( Not happy. But I feel good that a mere girl could, would and did do it. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU XXXX
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Thanks Guys you all help so much :-* The picture made alot of difference. Now all I need is a new one ;D. Just spent 2 hours at the scrap yard. The guy said he had one and that it was self service with the keys in the cars. Did they have one Nope I even climbed 3 cars to look, but not one vauxhall had a ignition with a key in it >:( Not happy. But I feel good that a mere girl could, would and did do it. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU XXXX
May be worth posting what you need in the parts wanted/for sale section - someone is bound to be breaking at car, and may do you an entire lock set for a few quid ;)
Need to keep the existing transponders from your old keys though, so save getting them reprogrammed.
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I will have a look many thanks 8-)
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So then, how can this be done if i'm unable to turn the ignition key?
Thanks
Alistair
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I can only think that i'm gonna have to smash the barrel out with a hammer/screwdriver and then source a second hand barrel & key. Do the 95 omegas have an immobiliser in the key?
Thanks
Alistair
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I can only think that i'm gonna have to smash the barrel out with a hammer/screwdriver and then source a second hand barrel & key. Do the 95 omegas have an immobiliser in the key?
Thanks
Alistair
borderline on a 95 - is the remote ir or rf?
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I can only think that i'm gonna have to smash the barrel out with a hammer/screwdriver and then source a second hand barrel & key. Do the 95 omegas have an immobiliser in the key?
Thanks
Alistair
DO NOT try and smash the barrel out mate. That could be messy.
Instead, you will see the heads of two shear bolts, that hold on the ignition barrel assembly.
Get a punch, and try and tap these round... if sucesfull, the whole barrel assembly just drops off.
Trust me, I've had this several times ;)
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I can only think that i'm gonna have to smash the barrel out with a hammer/screwdriver and then source a second hand barrel & key. Do the 95 omegas have an immobiliser in the key?
Thanks
Alistair
borderline on a 95 - is the remote ir or rf?
Its deffo IF
I've spoken to a mechanic friend and he seems to thing he can remove the barrel by drilling a hole in the housing so i'm gonna let him do that tomorrow!!
Thanks very much for all your help!!
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IF?
no transponder in key if its IR, but is if RF
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IF?
no transponder in key if its IR, but is if RF
Doh!! i meant IR!! i knew what i meant!! ;D ;D
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I've spoken to a mechanic friend and he seems to thing he can remove the barrel by drilling a hole in the housing so i'm gonna let him do that tomorrow!!
Thanks very much for all your help!!
What's the idea behind drilling the casing? The existing hole is there to push in a 'latch' on the side of the barrel thereby making the whole barrel roundwhich will allow it all to be withdrawn.
If you're going to drill anywhere, you need to drill down the middle ie where you'd put the key, & then pick the remnants of the tumblers out.
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Not sure really, however i've known him a long time and he reckons he's come across the same thing on other vxs before - i'll let u know what happens!
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I've spoken to a mechanic friend and he seems to thing he can remove the barrel by drilling a hole in the housing so i'm gonna let him do that tomorrow!!
Thanks very much for all your help!!
What's the idea behind drilling the casing? The existing hole is there to push in a 'latch' on the side of the barrel thereby making the whole barrel roundwhich will allow it all to be withdrawn.
If you're going to drill anywhere, you need to drill down the middle ie where you'd put the key, & then pick the remnants of the tumblers out.
I think this only works if you can turn the key to the first position, as the OP can't turn his key at all the "normal" way of removing the barrel is not an option. Sounds like they are going to try and drill the latch out.
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........ Sounds like they are going to try and drill the latch out.
But there's already a hole opposite the latch - Vx put it there ;) - the problem is that the key won't go in to align the tumblers to make the barrel cylindrical, which is what you need to pull the barrel out.
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Don't butcher the barrel - worst case is just take the heads off the two shear bolts! :-/