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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: robbo299 on 04 February 2008, 23:27:36

Title: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 04 February 2008, 23:27:36
Hi, I have a Trafficmaster Oracle switch on my dash and was wondering if anyone could tell me where the control unit would most likely be located. I need to find it and get the serial number from it to subscribe to the system. I have only had my Omega since December and i am planning to swap my exsisting Sony CDX GT111 cd radio for a CDR2005 headunit next week all being well. As i will be removing the exsisting double din adapter with the Sony unit i thought this may be the best time and way to find it and get the serial number. Thanx.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Albatross on 04 February 2008, 23:34:06
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Hi, I have a Trafficmaster Oracle switch on my dash and was wondering if anyone could tell me where the control unit would most likely be located. I need to find it and get the serial number from it to subscribe to the system. I have only had my Omega since December and i am planning to swap my exsisting Sony CDX GT111 cd radio for a CDR2005 headunit next week all being well. As i will be removing the exsisting double din adapter with the Sony unit i thought this may be the best time and way to find it and get the serial number. Thanx.

I just bought my car this week and it has the same thing fitted. I accidentally pressed the button twice in quick succession and this ladies voice eminated from the dashboard and asked me to give her a call sometime quoting serial number xxxxxxx.

I know it might be a really obvious one, but have you tried this?


Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 04 February 2008, 23:49:22
Ah.. a newbie and new owner like me. I have tried pressing the switch but as i have a Sony unit which is not connected to the steering wheel controls, i assumed that when whoever fitted the Sony unit dissconected them as well as the Trafficmaster. Mmmm a female voice from the dash you say.... must get subscribed :y ha ha. thanx.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Albatross on 04 February 2008, 23:56:19
I have read a thread somewhere that indicated that the control unit is housed behind stereo head unit. He was talking about digging it out and creating some more space back there.




Quite what he needed to "stash" behind his head unit I didn't dare ask!
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 05 February 2008, 00:11:31
I suppose i should have tried reading through the threads in this and the ICE section first. Been a long day and finished work a couple of hours ago so thought i would take the easy option and put a post on here. It would be great to remove old unit and facia to find control unit sitting there! I do know that various posts have said that the space behind the headunit is tight and assumed that the unit wouldn't be there. I wasn't going to bother with the Oracle but after a trips to Liverpool and Hampshire in the past two weeks and being stuck on motorways...... :(
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Albatross on 05 February 2008, 00:28:00
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I wasn't going to bother with the Oracle but after a trips to Liverpool and Hampshire in the past two weeks and being stuck on motorways...... :(

I've got a SAT NAV in my car that's coming at the end of the month and I must admit I was dissapointed to find out in a post I put up that the TM Oracle and SAT NAV aren't integrated.

Yes, this does mean that they will argue with eachother, not directly of course, but 1 of the 2 women living in the dash will direct you blindly to the jam, and the other will forewarn you of impending doom. If you deviate to avoid doom, the 1st woman will get very upset and confused and try her damnest to keep reminding you that you should turn around

As the SAT NAV has a manual "avoid area" function, I'm sure it is possible to interface the two units with some software and a PCB. I know a couple of people with these skills and I'm going to investigate. I think I can get my head round the software bit if I can find the deeper technical details of the two units on-line somewhere.

Wish me luck :y
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 05 February 2008, 00:40:22
Indeed i do wish you luck! i know from experience how one woman
 ( Nothing to do with TM or SAT NAV ) can confuse you with directions as you drive! ha ha. Oh well, i have plenty of time till i attempt the changeover of radio units so i will wait to see if i get any more replies.
Thanx for your help mate. I see your just "up the road" from me by the way. Off to Bedfrodshire now. Cheers and all the best.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Slowmo on 05 February 2008, 00:47:08
My Trafficmaster is above the brake pedal on my '99 elite. It's tied to the heater ducting just above the cover.

Small metal box, bit bigger than a cigarette packet. Two connectors and a BNC aerial socket.

If the licence has expired, just press the switch twice in quick succession. The unit will speak a six-digit licence code.

Although the voice is female, it sounds like Stephen Hawking's wife.

Peter
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Albatross on 05 February 2008, 00:59:40
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If the licence has expired, just press the switch twice in quick succession. The unit will speak a six-digit licence code.

We've tried this, but to be honest, as he's not running a factory fitted head unit, someone may not have bothered reconnecting this TM unit into the replacement audio head unit, so the lady is silenced.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: zirk on 05 February 2008, 01:07:05
The TM is in a small Silver Box that sits somewhere behind the Drivers Dash (but dont ask me where). its interfaced with the VX Head Unit by pluging its self into the back of the HU and the the HU rear leads are pluged into the back of the TM leads (ie Piggy backed and comes up with MESSAGE on the MID).

Theres a good chance that who ever has installed the Sony HU has either removed the Plug in part or has used a Sony to VX lead converter that not complatable with the TM.

Its not controlled by the Steering Controls but by pushing the TM button a number of times.

Depending on which model you have subscription is either £25 or £30 a year (well worth it I use mine all the time) and you'll save that in petrol.

TM do a Sat Nav thats intergrated with their own Traffic Master system, but its old hat now (black and white screen etc).

I think I'm correct in saying that TM have now been awarded the TMC / Sat Nav contract for the UK, so things should improve for the future.

Chris.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 05 February 2008, 09:52:26
Thanx all for the info. As i have said i already have the switch on the dash just above the headlight controls. I have purchased another trafficmaster unit and control leads from e-bay for a princely sum of £8 just in case when i replace the headunit some kind soul removed it when fitting the sony unit. If the old unit is still there i will resell. Thanx again. :y
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: LFF64 on 05 February 2008, 17:35:33
Just a thought you say you are going to fit an aftermarket head unit, I am pretty sure unless you buy an adapter your traffic master will not work as it uses the radio to announce warnings to you . I know I had to buy two adapters one for steering control and one for the remote display to be able to fit my kenwood unit and keep these option s  
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 05 February 2008, 18:32:01
hi, i am going to fit a CDR2005 headunit to the car so i am hoping that the wiring and connectors will be ok. I think my model of omega had either a CDR2005 or CDR2006 fitted as standard.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: TheBoy on 05 February 2008, 20:24:13
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If the licence has expired, just press the switch twice in quick succession. The unit will speak a six-digit licence code.

We've tried this, but to be honest, as he's not running a factory fitted head unit, someone may not have bothered reconnecting this TM unit into the replacement audio head unit, so the lady is silenced.
So pointless activating it until the audio is sorted ;)
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: TheBoy on 05 February 2008, 20:25:44
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hi, i am going to fit a CDR2005 headunit to the car so i am hoping that the wiring and connectors will be ok. I think my model of omega had either a CDR2005 or CDR2006 fitted as standard.
2006 in your Elite.

Presumably the pillock who put in the stupid headunit has ripped out all the Bose stuff.  I likely will not be a simple task.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: edwardmickey on 05 February 2008, 20:35:53
I paid to subscribe to Traffic Master when I bought my second Omega back in 2005.  I wanted everything to work and this included the square button.

I've gotta say, I didn't think it was that much use - not worth the subscription cost.

Others will disagree but unless you're using the trunk road network a lot, not sure it's of much use...
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: TheBoy on 05 February 2008, 20:41:38
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I paid to subscribe to Traffic Master when I bought my second Omega back in 2005.  I wanted everything to work and this included the square button.

I've gotta say, I didn't think it was that much use - not worth the subscription cost.

Others will disagree but unless you're using the trunk road network a lot, not sure it's of much use...
Yes, I guess TM isn't much use on the grid.

For those of us who venture outside of toytown, its a bit more useful ;)
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: omega3000elite on 05 February 2008, 20:49:20
As for the two women arguibg , try the Navman with add on which translates RDS transmissions and diverts you !
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: LFF64 on 05 February 2008, 20:51:20
A couple of question while we are on about this  ;)
 How long does the subscription last  I am sure mine has been going for over a year  :-?
 And secondly how much is it to renew it  :question
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: TheBoy on 05 February 2008, 20:53:34
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A couple of question while we are on about this  ;)
 How long does the subscription last  I am sure mine has been going for over a year  :-?
 And secondly how much is it to renew it  :question
1yr
£35 iirc
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: LFF64 on 05 February 2008, 20:58:44
Thank you  ;)
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: Albatross on 05 February 2008, 21:07:46
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As for the two women arguing , try the Navman with add on which translates RDS transmissions and diverts you !

Mmm, but I want to persevere and use my colour screened built in CID jobby that I've just aranged with EdwardMickey.

That isn't possible with a Navman is it?
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: edwardmickey on 05 February 2008, 21:10:17
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I paid to subscribe to Traffic Master when I bought my second Omega back in 2005.  I wanted everything to work and this included the square button.

I've gotta say, I didn't think it was that much use - not worth the subscription cost.

Others will disagree but unless you're using the trunk road network a lot, not sure it's of much use...
Yes, I guess TM isn't much use on the grid.

For those of us who venture outside of toytown, its a bit more useful ;)


You outsiders, comin' into our place.  rather liberty.

I find that my six fingers per hand got in the way of activating the button... :-?
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: robbo299 on 06 February 2008, 00:30:09
Re the reply about the pillock posibly taking out the Bose system when they fitted the Sony unit. No they didn't surprisingly. Still got amp in the rear quarter of the estate and it still works! Result!. Like i said before, after just two journeys on our wonderful motorway network i wished i had the Oracle system up and running. :(
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: zirk on 06 February 2008, 01:37:58
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Re the reply about the pillock posibly taking out the Bose system when they fitted the Sony unit. No they didn't surprisingly. Still got amp in the rear quarter of the estate and it still works! Result!. Like i said before, after just two journeys on our wonderful motorway network i wished i had the Oracle system up and running. :(

Hummm?, Not sure about that one, Sony HU pre-amps out arn't (as far as I know) compatable with the Bose Amp inputs, Check the Bose Sub Base Box (in the rear n/s rear side panel on the estate) bet its not working, sounds like they may have wired the Sony direct to the Speakers (Crossovers??).

I,m intrested pls let me know!

Chris.
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: zirk on 06 February 2008, 01:42:55
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A couple of question while we are on about this  ;)
 How long does the subscription last  I am sure mine has been going for over a year  :-?
 And secondly how much is it to renew it  :question
1yr
£35 iirc

Strange, Mines £30 my ex partners Car (older is £25) ???
Title: Re: Traffic Master
Post by: pscocoa on 06 February 2008, 22:31:59
Just a positive plug for Traffic Master. It is effective as someone has already said on the major roads only and obviously the motorways.

To get the best use out of it you just need to be organised with your CID Sat Nav to switch Route Class to eg "avoid Motorway" - then bring up the screen to see the new route and its line against the motorway so you can judge where to come back on. I have used it for 6 years and subject to a few hiccups it has overall been helpful. Never had to mess with it - just input the renewal code.