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Title: Ugly as sin !
Post by: duggs on 02 February 2008, 23:55:20
Sorry if I'm insulting a fellow "member" OR is it only me who thinks this car is as ugly as sin ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-Highly-modified_W0QQitemZ200196520132QQihZ010QQcategoryZ9858QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tis gonna take someone "very special" to take that car off his hands ??
I think "special" is the word I'm thinking of ??
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Entwood on 03 February 2008, 00:10:56
I know I've just bought mine with all the Irmscher bits, so I'm probably somewhat biased but ......

IMHO

The irmscher stuff looks "balanced" and seems to enhance the look, the mods on that may do something for performance but they are not aesthetically pleasing to me .. all looks OTT  ..  :(

and badging a non-standard Omega 2.5 as a Holden VXR is plain stupid .....


Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: TheBoy on 03 February 2008, 00:16:28
I think that started life as a GLS....
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 February 2008, 01:10:22
Looking at the quality of the wiring in the boot should tell you all you need to know about the care and perfection that went into creating such a carefully crafted car heap of scrap
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: zippo on 03 February 2008, 03:55:19
is it possible to gain so much power from the engine mods listed
he's put a lot of hard work in to that car all he has to do now is find someone else with the same taste as him (?)



edit
i thought i'd seen that body kit before it was in total vauxhall jan 05
the delta styling kit (fitted & sprayed £2k 04/05 price)
why am i looking up body kits @4.45 am :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: zippo on 03 February 2008, 05:04:23
ive just noticed the VXR badge
instant 300 bhp  ;D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: waspy on 03 February 2008, 09:16:15
What was the line outa Predater that Arnie said " you are one ugly beep beep"
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Danny on 03 February 2008, 09:37:30
used to belong to a member on here, cant remember who, but i remember being shocked that those wheels are 20"

not a fan of that body kit though, it should have never been made for the omega, looks even worse on a fiesta
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 February 2008, 10:48:34
300 BHP from a 2.5 ;D In his dreams I suspect.

I'd want to see an engine bay photo at the least. Notice that one's missing!

Kevin
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: toller on 03 February 2008, 12:38:04
Totally hideous and OTT.  A good contender for barryboys i think.
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Humpy on 04 February 2008, 18:35:36
It's got an Allegro steering wheel ;D

Humpy

PS I'm showing my age :)
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Jay w on 04 February 2008, 18:56:21
just asked for rolling road printouts, underbonnet pics and last cambelt change.

see what comes back
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: hotel21 on 04 February 2008, 19:00:53
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It's got an Allegro steering wheel ;D  

mmmmmmm  Quartic wheels...

no ta!
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: keith2.2 on 04 February 2008, 23:00:59
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To be fair, it would be a good buy to purchase on the cheap and put back to standard.

I'd like to go over the mods, however:

COURTENAY SPORT MODIFIED HEADS
CS10 HIGH TORQUE SPORT HEADS
listing the same thing twice doesn't make it twice as effective..  Courtenay claim 10% increase. So be generous, and call it +17bhp

4 BAR FUEL REGULATOR
...this should be good for...no bhp.

HIGH FLOW JETEX TWIN EXHAUST A PAIR OF SPORT CATS
..'high flow' meaning 'big' I presume. Sport cats - fine. benefit of the doubt, 8bhp (the stock v6 is pretty poor breathing wise, so it all helps)

MANTZEL INTAKE POWER RESONATOR
...sounds like an induction kit to me. Maker claims 10bhp.

 LIGHTWEIGHT FLYWHEEL [9.4 KGS LIGHTER THEN STANDARD]
...no bhp extra, but ok you'll have a quicker throttle response and it'll pick up a bit more easily

UPRATED CLUTCH WITH NEW SLAVE CYLINDER
you'll need it with that 300bhp. What brand clutch is it, though?

8.5 MAGNECOR LEADS WITH IRIDIUM PLUGS
a lot of money for very litle gain. no bhp.

COURTENAY MODDED AIRBOX WITH COURTENAY AIRFILTER
..i thought you already had an "intake power resonator". No bhp. -2bhp for being a numpty.

ECU REMAPPED
...so...20bhp perhaps? And don't be fooled into adding that figure to the gains from the breathing. Thats 20bhp because it's made use of the extra flow.

ITS RUNNING ON 20IN OZ SPLIT RIM ALLOYS
You fitted a lightened flywheel, only to then make the engine have to get 20 inch wheels rolling? oh ffs.

THE BODYKIT WAS SPECIALY MADE BY CARLTON AUTOMOTIVE.
the mould for which should be specially destroyed by fire.

IT HAS BLACKDIAMOND GROOVED DISCS ALL ROUND WITH SPORT PADS.
it'll need them to scrub off the momentum of 20 inch wheels under a 1.5 tonne car..

IT GOES OFF THE CLOCK AND THE CLOCK READS 160.
No it doesn't.

*if* it does - 160mph - 10% built in error (at 70mph, higher speed means even less accurate) is 144. Which I believe is 3mph below the book figure for this car.

So we're looking at about 200bhp if all the mods work.

There is in fact a "stage 2" tune from Courtenay that encompases most of the above, with the others being available from them too. To be fair, the guy has spent the best part of 2-3k on the gear he's listed before fitting.

I'd seriously want to be seeing a rolling road printout and detailed instructions on where to find the extra 100bhp, though.
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Pete Elite on 04 February 2008, 23:07:41
  Just add Batman and serve hot ::) ;D.
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: MaxV6 on 04 February 2008, 23:17:30
I'm tempted to buy it....
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: MaxV6 on 04 February 2008, 23:19:27
then turn up to "collect" it... armed with sammy sledge , and proceed to dismantle it "the hard way"....  



the worst bit is that ludicrous tail....     the rest I could almost live with....  

but not quite......

it's definitely in need to restoring to stock.
 ::)

Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: zippo on 04 February 2008, 23:21:07
check the gallery chaps, has the same kit but not the B.S (juleff)
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Jay w on 05 February 2008, 11:19:21
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To be fair, it would be a good buy to purchase on the cheap and put back to standard.

I'd like to go over the mods, however:

COURTENAY SPORT MODIFIED HEADS
CS10 HIGH TORQUE SPORT HEADS
Technically, this is the same thing.  Courtenay claim 10% increase. So be generous, and call it +17bhp

4 BAR FUEL REGULATOR
...this should be good for...no bhp.

HIGH FLOW JETEX TWIN EXHAUST A PAIR OF SPORT CATS
..'high flow' meaning 'big' I presume. Sport cats - fine. benefit of the doubt, 8bhp (the stock v6 is pretty poor breathing wise, so it all helps)

MANTZEL INTAKE POWER RESONATOR
...sounds like an induction kit to me. Maker claims 10bhp.

 LIGHTWEIGHT FLYWHEEL [9.4 KGS LIGHTER THEN STANDARD]
...no bhp extra, but ok you'll have a quicker throttle response and it'll pick up a bit more easily

UPRATED CLUTCH WITH NEW SLAVE CYLINDER
you'll need it with that 300bhp. What brand clutch is it, though?

8.5 MAGNECOR LEADS WITH IRIDIUM PLUGS
a lot of money for very litle gain. no bhp.

COURTENAY MODDED AIRBOX WITH COURTENAY AIRFILTER
..i thought you already had an "intake power resonator". No bhp. -2bhp for being a numpty.

ECU REMAPPED
...so...20bhp perhaps? And don't be fooled into adding that figure to the 8 on the exhaust and the 3 on the induction kit. Thats 20bhp because it's made use of the extra breathing.

ITS RUNNING ON 20IN OZ SPLIT RIM ALLOYS
You fitted a lightened flywheel, only to then make the engine have to get 20 inch wheels rolling? oh ffs.

THE BODYKIT WAS SPECIALY MADE BY CARLTON AUTOMOTIVE.
the mould for which should be specially destroyed by fire.

IT HAS BLACKDIAMOND GROOVED DISCS ALL ROUND WITH SPORT PADS.
it'll need them to scrub off the momentum of 20 inch wheels under a 1.5 tonne car..

IT GOES OFF THE CLOCK AND THE CLOCK READS 160.
No it doesn't.

*if* it does - 160mph - 10% built in error (at 70mph, higher speed means even less accurate) is 144. Which I believe is 3mph below the book figure for this car.

So we're looking at about 200bhp if all the mods work.

There is in fact a "stage 2" tune from Courtenay that encompases most of the above, with the others being available from them too. To be fair, the guy has spent the best part of 2-3k on the gear he's listed before fitting.

I'd seriously want to be seeing a rolling road printout and detailed instructions on where to find the extra 100bhp, though.

just think if he had slapped a set of 3.0 cams in there and enlarged the throttle body he could have achieved most of that performance without laying out half the amount he has....

In fact cams = £150 (on a bad day )
some time modding the TB = FOC
K&N panel filter= £40

So £200 and 30bhp.....

sounds like a bargain  :y

Edit add a N to a certain part of the reg number.......would sum the seller up perfectly  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: zippo on 05 February 2008, 11:27:56
does any one know if its been sold  Ive just tried to check but page not found was shown
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Jay w on 05 February 2008, 11:37:44
its still there....and has a bid on it!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: zippo on 05 February 2008, 11:49:52
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its still there....and has a bid on it!!!!!!!!!
one bid to many :)
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 February 2008, 12:00:01
He's made the usual mistake of adding lots of "tuning bits" and adding up all the BHP claims to reach a final figure. Add a dollop of bull$shit to that and anyone can go down the pub bragging about a 300 BHP motor.

Could even have been to a rolling road with it. It takes careful setting up and use of a rolling road to accurately measure power at the crank, and most places the chavs visit will tell them what they want to hear about power output because they either know no better or because it's a good way of sending them away happy (and oblivious).

As for bending the needle at 160 MPH, top speed is proportional to the cube root of engine power so he'd need a serious hike in  power to do that.

Kevin
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: robbo299 on 05 February 2008, 12:54:19
Number plate is wrong. It shouldn't read KOB, it should be KNOB. ;D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: FastAsleep on 05 February 2008, 13:45:11
That's been on BarryBoys too... and as you can imagine it didn't go down at all well ;D


Jap styling on a European car also = fail. So does using a steering wheel from an arcade machine :-/
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: The Barge Captain on 05 February 2008, 13:47:43
Bizarely I like the rear but loath the front.
No mention that the gearbox has been changed to one from a 3.0 to handle all that extra power. (2.0 and 2.5 share same box)



Ooops....

Did anyone spot my chav side there for a moment?
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Danny on 05 February 2008, 14:15:56
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Bizarely I like the rear but loath the front.
No mention that the gearbox has been changed to one from a 3.0 to handle all that extra power. (2.0 and 2.5 share same box)



Ooops....

Did anyone spot my chav side there for a moment?

nope, you've gone unnoticed :D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: platty on 05 February 2008, 19:59:31
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then turn up to "collect" it... armed with sammy sledge , and proceed to dismantle it "the hard way"....

 ;D ;D ;D I would love that! Can you imagine his face as you destroy his pride and joy - priceless!
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: davlad22 on 05 February 2008, 21:04:38
Keith, that is brilliant!  ;D

It is a Holden though, i've heard they're WELL QUICK  ::)

Personally gents i'm sensing a little jealousy around here  :P

....now if only you'd have worked that little bit harder at school, you could have earned one of these  :)


Personally it looks like an old modeo to me, and those PEDALS, UURRRRGH! I wouldn't even want to touch them  :'(
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Entwood on 05 February 2008, 21:14:37
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Keith, that is brilliant!  ;D

It is a Holden though, i've heard they're WELL QUICK  ::)

Personally gents i'm sensing a little jealousy around here  :P

....now if only you'd have worked that little bit harder at school, you could have earned one of these  :)


Personally it looks like an old modeo to me, and those PEDALS, UURRRRGH! I wouldn't even want to touch them  :'(

absolute b******s, a Holden is slow compared to mine ...  :)

If I put a Bugatti badge on mine will you buy it ??? :)

(you can have it for £1,000,000   ...  :)
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Dave-C on 05 February 2008, 21:32:27
Nice Wheels...

And, That's All.....

 :-?
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: cbs2 on 05 February 2008, 21:43:08
I hope the nutter that bid 2.5k on that has read this post ;D

How anybody could look at that, read the "blurb" then think 2.5k is a bargain amazes me

What am I saying. its one of the owners mates making phantom bids ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: davlad22 on 05 February 2008, 22:37:14
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Keith, that is brilliant!  ;D

It is a Holden though, i've heard they're WELL QUICK  ::)

Personally gents i'm sensing a little jealousy around here  :P

....now if only you'd have worked that little bit harder at school, you could have earned one of these  :)


Personally it looks like an old modeo to me, and those PEDALS, UURRRRGH! I wouldn't even want to touch them  :'(

absolute b******s, a Holden is slow compared to mine ...  :)

If I put a Bugatti badge on mine will you buy it ??? :)

(you can have it for £1,000,000   ...  :)
Bugatti! I'd buy yours with a vauxhall badge mate! oh...wait....it has got a vauxhall badge!  ;D

Those wheels are Merc AMG wheels I think! Crap! God, and THOSE PEDALS AAAaaaaarrrrggh!  :o

The only thing that makes me chuckle is the 'short shifter' which I expect has been sawn off!  ;D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Danny on 06 February 2008, 16:45:48
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Keith, that is brilliant!  ;D

It is a Holden though, i've heard they're WELL QUICK  ::)

Personally gents i'm sensing a little jealousy around here  :P

....now if only you'd have worked that little bit harder at school, you could have earned one of these  :)


Personally it looks like an old modeo to me, and those PEDALS, UURRRRGH! I wouldn't even want to touch them  :'(

absolute b******s, a Holden is slow compared to mine ...  :)

If I put a Bugatti badge on mine will you buy it ??? :)

(you can have it for £1,000,000   ...  :)
Bugatti! I'd buy yours with a vauxhall badge mate! oh...wait....it has got a vauxhall badge!  ;D

Those wheels are Merc AMG wheels I think! Crap! God, and THOSE PEDALS AAAaaaaarrrrggh!  :o

The only thing that makes me chuckle is the 'short shifter' which I expect has been sawn off!  ;D

I noticed the "AMG" look to them, they're OZ 20" split rims tho :D
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: Hammers on 08 February 2008, 09:20:47
Shame he didnt show a picture of the engine bay, would like to have seen that could do with a laugh. All I can see he has done is add more weight to the car. He must have shares in Halfords. :( :( :(
Title: Re: Ugly as sin !
Post by: gizza on 08 February 2008, 09:55:53
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Shame he didnt show a picture of the engine bay, would like to have seen that could do with a laugh. All I can see he has done is add more weight to the car. He must have shares in Halfords. :( :( :(
dont you mean he crashed through halfords