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Title: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: neal on 01 March 2008, 17:48:36
Can anyone comment on whether Redex damages sensors or is it really as good as the manufacturer claims on cleaning up injectors etc.....  
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Marie on 01 March 2008, 18:00:50
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Can anyone comment on whether Redex damages sensors or is it really as good as the manufacturer claims on cleaning up injectors etc.....  

Hubby used to use it in the car as we were having idle snags. i found it just made matters worse. he is now banned from sticking anything in the car usless its fuel oil and water!

this is my opion once off might be ok but wouldnt use it often.
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 March 2008, 18:04:07
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Can anyone comment on whether Redex damages sensors or is it really as good as the manufacturer claims on cleaning up injectors etc.....  

Hubby used to use it in the car as we were having idle snags. i found it just made matters worse. he is now banned from sticking anything in the car usless its fuel oil and water!

this is my opion once off might be ok but wouldnt use it often.

Service the cars properly and there is no need for additives :y
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: neal on 01 March 2008, 18:29:45
Thanks for comments
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Jimbob on 01 March 2008, 18:38:42
Its ok, but there are better.

My ratings :

Forte Gas Treatment
STP Injector Cleaner
Redex

A dose every 6 months seems to improve things a little
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: albitz on 01 March 2008, 21:04:11
i,ve tried it,never noticed any improvements.i think a lot of these potions may be the automotive equivalant of snake oil  :-/
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 March 2008, 21:38:58
Helps to prevent the petrol injectors from gumming up.

Gumming up is no fun :(

James - you better put something in before you get it.

Symtoms are very bad starting and rough running until they clear themselves.

Caused by running hot and never firing
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Martin_1962 on 01 March 2008, 21:40:03
I use it every time I get supermarket petrol, ie not BP Shell or Esso

Put in a small dollop.
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: TheBoy on 01 March 2008, 21:44:39
On the MV6 I use Forte Gas Treatment about once a year.

On the oil burner, I used Diesel Redex if I've had to put in a couple of tanks of supermarket fuel, and Diesel Magic if ever I have fuel filter off.
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: albitz on 01 March 2008, 22:49:05
i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Bandit127 on 01 March 2008, 23:00:08
The Oilman has comethed. So to speak. So we have a top class expert on oils. He is available to tell us why PTFE additives can make a car go 500 miles round the QVC track without oil. And why they are really bad for your modern Vx long term.

Is there anyone like that the "Fuelman" here? Redex is perhaps the best urban myth on petrol additives. I know the only use I found for it was with a bit of wet & dry for cleaning caked up 2 stroke heads and pistons (works a treat for that). Be good if someone could set us straight.

In the meantime, the odd tankful of Optimax (or equivalent) probably does a better job of keeping your fuel system and heads clean. AFAIK.

Jim

Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Tommy on 02 March 2008, 08:24:33
I have always put in a bottle of Slick 50 fuel treatment when I've bought a new car. You never know whats been run through it or what maintenance has been done in the past. Whether it actually does anything I've yet to prove but it gives me peace of mind  :)
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: mantahatch on 02 March 2008, 10:40:32
In the good old days when I was aged between 12-14 I used to work in a service station, you no where the pump attendant put petrol in your car for you.
The old boys that came in used to swear by Redex or UCL (upper cylinder lubricant) it came in a big red container and we put it in at 2p per shot.
I think it was designed then for lubricating the valves. Maybe modern fuels have gone past requiring this I don't no.
This was 30 years ago.

Mike
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Pitchfork on 02 March 2008, 14:55:51
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In the good old days when I was aged between 12-14 I used to work in a service station, you no where the pump attendant put petrol in your car for you.
The old boys that came in used to swear by Redex or UCL (upper cylinder lubricant) it came in a big red container and we put it in at 2p per shot.
I think it was designed then for lubricating the valves. Maybe modern fuels have gone past requiring this I don't no.
This was 30 years ago.
Or was it 2d?? (Christian money!!) ;)

Mike
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Dave-C on 02 March 2008, 15:24:14
I recall de-coking a head once, it was a b1tch to get off, we soaked the upturned head in Redex overnight, it did soften the coking.. it as good as dropped off the next day, so, in my opinion it works :y  There is another angle however, if it losens cr4p, what will it losen in the fuel tank and pipes and duly block the filter / injectors etc.. :-/ :-/

There's always Mr Muscle Drain Unblocker!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Bandit127 on 02 March 2008, 20:31:53
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I recall de-coking a head once, it was a b1tch to get off, we soaked the upturned head in Redex overnight, it did soften the coking.. it as good as dropped off the next day, so, in my opinion it works :y  There is another angle however, if it losens cr4p, what will it losen in the fuel tank and pipes and duly block the filter / injectors etc.. :-/ :-/

There's always Mr Muscle Drain Unblocker!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quite right!
 
The other thing we used to do with 2 strokes was boil the exhaust baffles in caustic soda dissolved in water (poor man's Mr Muscle drain cleaner...). Took all the crud off a treat.

Spooky.

Jim
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Albatross on 02 March 2008, 20:41:23
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i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[

I was of the opinion that all petrol comes from the same source.

I do know as an absolute certainty that there is no link between BP's Oil exploration / drilling and the pumps at the franchised BP petrol stations.

I see Ferraris, Mercs, M5's, Evo's, Scoobys and all sorts at my local Tescos.

I accept that some companies (at retail) do add aditives, such as detergents, but this is on top of the same wholesale fuel that the Supermarkets are buying.

Why do people believe that Supermarket fuels are any different to a standard fuel from a brand?
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: TheBoy on 02 March 2008, 20:43:22
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i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[

I was of the opinion that all petrol comes from the same source.

I do know as an absolute certainty that there is no link between BP's Oil exploration / drilling and the pumps at the franchised BP petrol stations.

I see Ferraris, Mercs, M5's, Evo's, Scoobys and all sorts at my local Tescos.

Why do people beleive that Supermarket fuels are any different to a standard fuel from a brand?
Because they are normally noticibly different ;)

Many supermarkets use low octane eastern european fuel, stuffed with ethanol to get the octane up....
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Albatross on 02 March 2008, 20:46:55
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i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[

I was of the opinion that all petrol comes from the same source.

I do know as an absolute certainty that there is no link between BP's Oil exploration / drilling and the pumps at the franchised BP petrol stations.

I see Ferraris, Mercs, M5's, Evo's, Scoobys and all sorts at my local Tescos.

I accept that some companies (at retail) do add aditives, such as detergents, but this is on top of the same wholesale fuel that the Supermarkets are buying.

Why do people believe that Supermarket fuels are any different to a standard fuel from a brand?
Because they are normally noticibly different ;)

Many supermarkets use low octane eastern european fuel, stuffed with ethanol to get the octane up....
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Is that a qualified statement?

What makes Easter European fuel any lower in octane than fuel from elsewhere?

Why would a retail outlet spend more money than it had to on it's fuel than the next outlet?
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Bandit127 on 02 March 2008, 21:06:20
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i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[

I was of the opinion that all petrol comes from the same source.

I do know as an absolute certainty that there is no link between BP's Oil exploration / drilling and the pumps at the franchised BP petrol stations.

I see Ferraris, Mercs, M5's, Evo's, Scoobys and all sorts at my local Tescos.

I accept that some companies (at retail) do add aditives, such as detergents, but this is on top of the same wholesale fuel that the Supermarkets are buying.

Why do people believe that Supermarket fuels are any different to a standard fuel from a brand?

We do forget quickly. Almost a year ago to the day...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6413357.stm

No problems at any of the branded suppliers.
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Albatross on 02 March 2008, 21:16:30
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i almost always use supermarket fuel. :-[

I was of the opinion that all petrol comes from the same source.

I do know as an absolute certainty that there is no link between BP's Oil exploration / drilling and the pumps at the franchised BP petrol stations.

I see Ferraris, Mercs, M5's, Evo's, Scoobys and all sorts at my local Tescos.

I accept that some companies (at retail) do add aditives, such as detergents, but this is on top of the same wholesale fuel that the Supermarkets are buying.

Why do people believe that Supermarket fuels are any different to a standard fuel from a brand?

We do forget quickly. Almost a year ago to the day...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6413357.stm

No problems at any of the branded suppliers.

But was that down to wholesale supply or was it down to Supermarket's back end handling & distribution?
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Pitchfork on 02 March 2008, 21:19:36
And what about Supermarket Diesel?
Is that 'inferior' too?
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: waspy on 02 March 2008, 21:24:42
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And what about Supermarket Diesel?
Is that 'inferior' too?

Just what i was thinking  :y
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: TheBoy on 02 March 2008, 21:37:14
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And what about Supermarket Diesel?
Is that 'inferior' too?
I find if I use Tesco/Asda diesel for more than a tank or 2, it starts to smoke a bit.  A couple of tanks of branded cures it.  So I'd say there must be a different in diesel as well.
Title: Re: Redex - Good or Bad
Post by: Pitchfork on 03 March 2008, 07:30:01
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And what about Supermarket Diesel?
Is that 'inferior' too?
I find if I use Tesco/Asda diesel for more than a tank or 2, it starts to smoke a bit.  A couple of tanks of branded cures it.  So I'd say there must be a different in diesel as well.
Did you, or another member, not say last year that BP supplied Sainsbury's with fuel? Would this be the same as branded or would they bother to produce a different receipe?