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Title: Electric Window Motor
Post by: tunnie on 02 March 2008, 16:04:42
Front drivers side, how easy is it to remove, once the door card is off? - Does the glass need to come out?

Since i have decided to keep the 2.2 over the 3.0 I would like to get this sorted  :)
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Andy B on 02 March 2008, 16:22:35
Having struggled to remove the driver's door locking mechanism last week, I'd imagine at least the air bag has to come out (half dozen-ish pop rivets) to get enough access. I recon the glass can stay put though.
Why do you need to remove your motor?
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: tunnie on 02 March 2008, 16:39:29
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Having struggled to remove the driver's door locking mechanism last week, I'd imagine at least the air bag has to come out (half dozen-ish pop rivets) to get enough access. I recon the glass can stay put though.
Why do you need to remove your motor?

The window stopped working last year, the only time i need it is when going into carparks ect....

We established last year it was the motor that had gone...
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: TheBoy on 02 March 2008, 19:23:38
thought we established it was the switch pack?

I'll stand corrected, seeing as I have had much Stella since then...
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: tunnie on 02 March 2008, 19:25:09
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thought we established it was the switch pack?

I'll stand corrected, seeing as I have had much Stella since then...

Errr thought it was the motor? I would have prefered the switch pack!

I seamed to remember we took the door card off and measured the volts on the motor. It seamed to point to that...
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: TheBoy on 02 March 2008, 19:28:13
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thought we established it was the switch pack?

I'll stand corrected, seeing as I have had much Stella since then...

Errr thought it was the motor? I would have prefered the switch pack!

I seamed to remember we took the door card off and measured the volts on the motor. It seamed to point to that...
Reason I thought it was switchpack was because I suggested doing to scrappy and getting one off that facelift, but it had gone by then?  As said, I may be mistaken....

Might be worth rechecking...
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 March 2008, 22:25:09
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thought we established it was the switch pack?

I'll stand corrected, seeing as I have had much Stella since then...

Errr thought it was the motor? I would have prefered the switch pack!

I seamed to remember we took the door card off and measured the volts on the motor. It seamed to point to that...
Reason I thought it was switchpack was because I suggested doing to scrappy and getting one off that facelift, but it had gone by then?  As said, I may be mistaken....

Might be worth rechecking...

I was on TBs drive when we were investigating this - and it pointed to the switch rather than the motor

Try the switch from your Dad's 2.2?

Failing that, the motor is an easy, if not a bit fiddly, job. I will gladly help you :y

Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: bruce on 03 March 2008, 08:13:58
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Having struggled to remove the driver's door locking mechanism last week, I'd imagine at least the air bag has to come out (half dozen-ish pop rivets) to get enough access. I recon the glass can stay put though.
Why do you need to remove your motor?

I need to take the  drivers door card off on my 98 2.5 elite. what I'd like to know is, after reading Andy-B post, is the air bag in the door, because in mine there is a panel on the side of the drivers seat with the words "airbag"

Sorry for sounding like a idiot but don't want to mess with things I don't know about.

Bruce
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Andy B on 03 March 2008, 08:58:20
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I need to take the  drivers door card off on my 98 2.5 elite. what I'd like to know is, after reading Andy-B post, is the air bag in the door, because in mine there is a panel on the side of the drivers seat with the words "airbag"

Sorry for sounding like a idiot but don't want to mess with things I don't know about.

Bruce

There's one in the seat & one in the door too. It's a year thing, that someone far knowedable than I will answer in more detail!  ;)
You're OK if you're just taking the panel off though, all the gubbins in the door are behind the polythene membrane on the door. And if you do go any further don't turn the ignition on with the air abg disconnected unless you have the means to turn the airbag light off again.
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 March 2008, 09:06:36
There isnt an airbag in the door but, there is a sensor mounted on plate.

Tunnie, it took about 30 mins to remove the drivers motor assembly for you about a year ago...but its so long ago I cant recall what was involved  ::)
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Andy B on 03 March 2008, 09:28:24
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There isnt an airbag in the door but, there is a sensor mounted on plate.

Tunnie, it took about 30 mins to remove the drivers motor assembly for you about a year ago...but its so long ago I cant recall what was involved  ::)
Sorry! I'd always been under the impression there was. What's the big ally thing with the sensor fastened to it for then?
Oh well! At least that's one less place I'll get caudite burns from then!! ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 March 2008, 09:35:03
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There isnt an airbag in the door but, there is a sensor mounted on plate.

Tunnie, it took about 30 mins to remove the drivers motor assembly for you about a year ago...but its so long ago I cant recall what was involved  ::)
Sorry! I'd always been under the impression there was. What's the big ally thing with the sensor fastened to it for then?
Oh well! At least that's one less place I'll get caudite burns from then!! ;D  ;D  ;D

Its just a side impact sensor....
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Andy B on 03 March 2008, 09:38:44
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Its just a side impact sensor....

But I'm pretty sure I'll know if I get an impact next to me!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: bruce on 03 March 2008, 10:09:58
Cheers guys,
It's just that my drivers door won't open by the handle from the outside..only by the inside Handle..central locking all works...just fed up with getting in the passenger door and climbing over the seats ;D..so providing I don't disconnect anything I should be OK...Right :question.

Sorry to Tunnie for hijacking his thread :-[

Bruce
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 March 2008, 10:20:53
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Cheers guys,
It's just that my drivers door won't open by the handle from the outside..only by the inside Handle..central locking all works...just fed up with getting in the passenger door and climbing over the seats ;D..so providing I don't disconnect anything I should be OK...Right :question.

Sorry to Tunnie for hijacking his thread :-[

Bruce

Has this started happening recently or has it always been like it?
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: bruce on 03 March 2008, 10:27:38
Mark, I've had the car for two years but this has only happened in the last few weeks..

Bruce
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: Andy B on 03 March 2008, 10:54:12
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Mark, I've had the car for two years but this has only happened in the last few weeks..

Bruce

Mine had been getting increasingly stiff (oooer! ::)) to open , particularly from the outside, to the stage that you needed to use 2 hands sometimes. I removed the whole assmbly from the door, 3 torx on the side of the door and the various linkages from the inside & outside handle & lock, and blasted anywhere & everwhere with a ptfe lub. It now opens very easily from both inside & outside.
Getting my hands in the small opening to remove the lock was the hardest part of the job.
Title: Re: Electric Window Motor
Post by: tunnie on 03 March 2008, 10:59:05
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thought we established it was the switch pack?

I'll stand corrected, seeing as I have had much Stella since then...

Errr thought it was the motor? I would have prefered the switch pack!

I seamed to remember we took the door card off and measured the volts on the motor. It seamed to point to that...
Reason I thought it was switchpack was because I suggested doing to scrappy and getting one off that facelift, but it had gone by then?  As said, I may be mistaken....

Might be worth rechecking...

I was on TBs drive when we were investigating this - and it pointed to the switch rather than the motor

Try the switch from your Dad's 2.2?

Failing that, the motor is an easy, if not a bit fiddly, job. I will gladly help you :y


Its so long since i worked on it, i faintly remember taking my dads door card to bits and swapping the switches over... with no luck.

i am 90% sure its the motor thats gone.