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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: topdogkelv on 17 March 2008, 18:39:52
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hi kind people im at a lose end im trying everything to get more power out of my mv6 so far i have full S/S exhaust K&N induction kit smothed and polished throtle bodies blocked off egr valve to stop hot air getting back into engine and plans vey soon for a ecu remap just dont konw where to turn could go for a supercharger but not sure of costs and who to turn to also is there any websites out there that i could look at for ths sort of thing and for modifying my face lift omega as ebay dosent cut it
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You don't say what your starting point (engine size) is
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EGR valve will close on full throttle anyway. Make sure you're getting the most from what you've got. Does the induction air suck only hot air from in front of the radiator or is it able to take warm air from the engine bay?
Exhaust manifolds are reckoned to be a weak point and looking at the factory ones that's fair comment. Problem is, although one or two sources have tubular manifolds for the V6 they are for LHD Omegas and would likely not fit a RHD car.
The frank answer is, to do much more is going to start getting very expensive because there aren't too many off-the-shelf solutions available.
Kevin
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I'm in the same process....just ordered the smoothed/polished throttle plates, blocked off egr and removed hot water pipes from throttles too. Added an induction kit too.
Haven't done exhaust, but when I do will be looking for cat bypass pipes. Also looking for some inlet cams to replace the existing exhaust ones.
Then might look into a unichip or similar.
Try a cooler thermostat from courtney sport too.
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Your issue is threefold:
1. lack of support for such a car in terms of well developed add ons.
2. Those that are out there are way over priced, unproven or just gimmicks
3. Not knowing your engine or BHP, but the v6 really needs some extensive work to take much more - ie supercharged power...
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oh sorry its a 3.0l MV6 manual facelift
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oh sorry its a 3.0l MV6 manual facelift
So your running 207 ish if its fully fit as standard....that engine wont really survive serious power increases, assuming you can find any :-/
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oh sorry its a 3.0l MV6 manual facelift
well my mv6 3.0 is running chip carbon air filter full stainless decatted sounds wicked and quite happy with power have looked into supercharging but kits cost £3500 and can only run half a bar ::)
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Your issue is threefold:
1. lack of support for such a car in terms of well developed add ons.
2. Those that are out there are way over priced, unproven or just gimmicks
3. Not knowing your engine or BHP, but the v6 really needs some extensive work to take much more - ie supercharged power...
I recall discussion that the cooling around the rear cylinders isn't up to the job above 250 BHP too.
Compression is quite high as standard so if you want to get a significant increase by forced induction that will need to be reduced.
TBH, if the car is significantly below your aspirations in standard form it might be easier to look at an engine swap for something with more tuning support.
Kevin
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so basicly im screwed lol oh dear well thanks boys for the help suppose il never reach the 300bhp point il have to live with it and just upgrade everything on it as i dont want to let her go as shes a nice car and still upsets the boy racers that try it on with me
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so basicly im screwed lol oh dear well thanks boys for the help suppose il never reach the 300bhp point il have to live with it and just upgrade everything on it as i dont want to let her go as shes a nice car and still upsets the boy racers that try it on with me
theres only one way i think you will break 300bhp in thaty omega shell.......
And its expensive, rare and hard work.
Step forward Omegatoy ;D
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so basicly im screwed lol oh dear well thanks boys for the help suppose il never reach the 300bhp point il have to live with it and just upgrade everything on it as i dont want to let her go as shes a nice car and still upsets the boy racers that try it on with me
theres only one way i think you will break 300bhp in thaty omega shell.......
And its expensive, rare and hard work.
Step forward Omegatoy ;D
loutus carlton engine transplant matey !! or a big shot of nos !!! ;D ;D
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where can i get one lol
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so basicly im screwed lol oh dear well thanks boys for the help suppose il never reach the 300bhp point il have to live with it and just upgrade everything on it as i dont want to let her go as shes a nice car and still upsets the boy racers that try it on with me
theres only one way i think you will break 300bhp in thaty omega shell.......
And its expensive, rare and hard work.
Step forward Omegatoy ;D
loutus carlton engine transplant matey !! or a big shot of nos !!! ;D ;D
Or you could try a VX Monaro Wortec supercharged engine. Over 600bhp.
That might do it.
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where can i get one lol
loutus carlton engines are like rocking horse poo matey !! :-?
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would that engine fit and who would take up such a job
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would that engine fit and who would take up such a job
TBH, I don't know the answer to either of your questions, but I'm pretty sure that the VX Monaro is based on the Omega chassis, and I do know that the 4 pot front brakes are pretty much a straight swap.
I'd guess you'd have to upgrade the suspension too as the big V8 lump is somewhere around the 6 litre mark, so must weigh a damn sight more. You'd also definitely have to change the transmission and diff to cope.
If you have a look at this link http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204835889 you'll see that one of our member's older brother has a Monaro that has the lump we're talking about with the Wortec supercharger added.
Perhaps that'd be a good starting point.
Personally, you might find it cheaper to just buy a Monaro though. You'd also more likely get more of your investment back if you ever went to sell it.
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would that engine fit and who would take up such a job
TBH, I don't know the answer to either of your questions, but I'm pretty sure that the VX Monaro is based on the Omega chassis, and I do know that the 4 pot front brakes are pretty much a straight swap.
I'd guess you'd have to upgrade the suspension too as the big V8 lump is somewhere around the 6 litre mark, so must weigh a damn sight more. You'd also definitely have to change the transmission and diff to cope.
If you have a look at this link http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204835889 you'll see that one of our member's older brother has a Monaro that has the lump we're talking about with the Wortec supercharger added.
Perhaps that'd be a good starting point.
Personally, you might find it cheaper to just buy a Monaro though. You'd also more likely get more of your investment back if you ever went to sell it.
agreed..and original V8 will not bring extra problems..and easy to sell as it is..
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there is a car
call
BMW M5 G Power
720 bhp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YxkEjOgzE&eurl=http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/03/11/730-hp-bmw-m5-hurricane-tuning-by-g-powervideo/
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there is a car
call
BMW M5
::)
m3 is enough for me ;D
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there is a car
call
BMW M5
yes more power but who would want to own one !! ;D ;D seems most bmw drivers are tw ats :-?
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there is a car
call
BMW M5
yes more power but who would want to own one !! ;D ;D seems most bmw drivers are tw ats :-?
if I can afford one I promise I will not be ;D
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there is a car
call
BMW M5
yes more power but who would want to own one !! ;D ;D seems most bmw drivers are tw ats :-?
if I can afford one I promise I will not be ;D
thats sounds like a deal cem mate !! ;D ;D you would the first mind !! :o
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would that engine fit and who would take up such a job
From researching it, it should fit, but will take A LOT of modifications / custom parts.
To be honest it would be easier (and cheaper) to get a holden from down under and make that look like an omega than it would putting a v8 in one.
would that engine fit and who would take up such a job
I'd guess you'd have to upgrade the suspension too as the big V8 lump is somewhere around the 6 litre mark, so must weigh a damn sight more. You'd also definitely have to change the transmission and diff to cope.
If you have a look at this link http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204835889 you'll see that one of our member's older brother has a Monaro that has the lump we're talking about with the Wortec supercharger added.
Perhaps that'd be a good starting point.
Personally, you might find it cheaper to just buy a Monaro though. You'd also more likely get more of your investment back if you ever went to sell it.
The small block, all alloy V8 (LS1 & LS2) is not too far off the weight of the V6.
i know of a low mileage 400horse (standard ::)) LS2 for sale, think its around the £6k mark if your interested :y
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If you shop around you can probably find an old yank tank kicking about for around 1K with the 5.7 V8 in it basicly the same as the monaro engine should be an easy enough job as the same engine was in the Holden Commodore in right hand drive which is the same base as the omega.
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If you shop around you can probably find an old yank tank kicking about for around 1K with the 5.7 V8 in it basicly the same as the monaro engine should be an easy enough job as the same engine was in the Holden Commodore in right hand drive which is the same base as the omega.
thats what i thought but its not, they used similar but diffrent shells :'(