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Title: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: grim on 19 March 2008, 07:29:06
hi,i have a 2.5 petrol,i use it for big fishing trips all over the country and france,it runs with no probs,but unfortunatly i work about 3 miles from where i live,hence it does a lot of short journeys and i get the impression that these cars dont like it too much as i get white sludge build up just inside oil filler(about half an eggcup full a fortnight).i dont believe its head gasget as i clean sludge away from cap,do a 300 mile journey,and its still nice and clean with no oil/water loss...is there something i could do to minimise this except do a lot of miles regulary
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Timbuk on 19 March 2008, 07:35:26
Its completely normal and nothing to worry about ;)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: grim on 19 March 2008, 07:38:55
shall i continue to clean it or just leave it,thanks
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Andy B on 19 March 2008, 08:32:14
Whose oil do you have in it. Apparently Vx's own semi-skimmed is less prone to emulsifying (sp?)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Markie on 19 March 2008, 08:37:33
its normal on v6`s on short runs particularly in the cold weather.

Peronally i clean it off ad hoc and ensure the car gets a decent motorway blast and very regular servicing...that combination does the trick.
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: albitz on 19 March 2008, 08:57:23
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its normal on v6`s on short runs particularly in the cold weather.

Peronally i clean it off ad hoc and ensure the car gets a decent motorway blast and very regular servicing...that combination does the trick.
same here :y
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 March 2008, 09:38:02
.. and pay extra attention to making sure the breathers stay clean if it gets short journeys.

Kevin
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: grim on 19 March 2008, 16:38:59
hey thanks for all the info,i use shell helix,its what vauxhalls main dealer puts in it,its had plenty of regular servicing(last one only 4000 miles ago).think ill check out the breathers just to make sure,cheers again  :y
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: davlad22 on 19 March 2008, 16:39:40
Drive it like you stole it  :y
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Danny on 19 March 2008, 16:40:10
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hey thanks for all the info,i use shell helix,its what vauxhalls main dealer puts in it,its had plenty of regular servicing(last one only 4000 miles ago).think ill check out the breathers just to make sure,cheers again  :y

... and run it down a motorway too :y
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Martin_1962 on 19 March 2008, 16:58:35
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Drive it like you stole it  :y


That's wrong - drive it like you are chasing someone who stole another ;D ;D
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Danny on 19 March 2008, 17:09:42
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Drive it like you stole it  :y


That's wrong - drive it like you are chasing someone who stole another ;D ;D

drive it like you care!!!
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: achoo81 on 19 March 2008, 20:38:05
Try getting hold of a piece of felt about 3to5 mm thick cut it to the length of the filler neck and wide enough to go round it and overlap by 25 mm or so then wrap it round the neck and fix in place with a couple of cable ties. This is a trick I learnt to stop the same thing on the old Viva which was very prone to it.
It happens because the filler cools down faster than the rest of the engine that causes condensation which mixes with the oil the result is the mayo.
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 March 2008, 22:01:08
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Try getting hold of a piece of felt about 3to5 mm thick cut it to the length of the filler neck and wide enough to go round it and overlap by 25 mm or so then wrap it round the neck and fix in place with a couple of cable ties. This is a trick I learnt to stop the same thing on the old Viva which was very prone to it.
It happens because the filler cools down faster than the rest of the engine that causes condensation which mixes with the oil the result is the mayo.

In the case of the V6, it occurs because its the higest point in the engine so water vapour tends to boil off and up to this point. Unlike most engines, because the neck is tall, it doesn't get much oil splash from the cams which would normlay disperse the stuff.

I have to say I dont rate the basic shell oils.....
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: rad cap on 19 March 2008, 22:05:34
drive it like you stole it, see you on cop road wars soon,  ;)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: grim on 20 March 2008, 06:34:45
thanks for info, i thought shell helix was good as it cost £59 with a £7.50 top up from vx main dealer(marshalls),i didnt pay tho ;),can you recommend a good oil,i drive my cars hard but with respect,and lastly i did think of putting something round the neck of the oil filler tube but then i thought about the fire risk,can felt be safly used or should i try to get hold of a piece of fireblanket etc...ps,you have put my mind at rest as i keep thinking headgasket...cheers
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Elite Pete on 20 March 2008, 06:47:35
Vauxhalls own 10-40 semi synthetic is good stuff and very cheap with the Trade Card :y
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: bighed on 20 March 2008, 07:21:51
Is magnatec any good as have used this for years?? When you say regular servicing on a V6 how often and what needs changing??  ::)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: Markie on 20 March 2008, 08:12:50
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Is magnatec any good as have used this for years?? When you say regular servicing on a V6 how often and what needs changing??  ::)


go with Elite Petes recommendation - we all use vx semi  :y ervicing for me is maximum 3000miles for oil and filter chnge :)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: achoo81 on 20 March 2008, 20:26:53
I made a jacket out of felt to cover the rocker cover on a Viva I owned it stopped the mayo problem straight away, the person I sold it to left it on there and had no problems with it for the 4 years he owned the car. I also knew 3 other people who did the same thing with no problems. (firewise)
Title: Re: condonsation build up in oil filler
Post by: grim on 20 March 2008, 22:55:19
 :y ok,that sounds like the trick,many thanks :y..nice one