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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: cbs2 on 29 April 2008, 22:07:03
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sunroofs really starting to rip ma knitting now.
Its got a mind of its own, opens(tilts) & closes at will. When I do want to tilt it, it only tilts open about an inch.
I greased the runners today, made no difference.
So I removed the motor, stripped it, cleaned & regreased it. made no difference.
I've reset it also, but to close it, I need to put the dial halfway between the closed symbol( pointing to the front of the car) & the tilt one( towards the drivers door) but I don't think the reset has worked either
Any ideas??
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From memory there is a disk in them which can get dirty.....this is part of the position sensing setup
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sunroofs really starting to rip ma knitting now.
Its got a mind of its own, opens(tilts) & closes at will. When I do want to tilt it, it only tilts open about an inch.
I greased the runners today, made no difference.
So I removed the motor, stripped it, cleaned & regreased it. made no difference.
I've reset it also, but to close it, I need to put the dial halfway between the closed symbol( pointing to the front of the car) & the tilt one( towards the drivers door) but I don't think the reset has worked either
Any ideas??
If it operates on its own then this sounds like the control box may have developed a fault. If so it will need a replacement (DON'T go to Vx; they will want to sell you the box AND motor together for £500+ :'().
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If it operates on its own then this sounds like the control box may have developed a fault. If so it will need a replacement (DON'T go to Vx; they will want to sell you the box AND motor together for £500+ :'().
The sunroof motor & gubins that controls the anti-trap & positioning are all in the one box, I had an Omega sunroof motor in my Senator, there isn't another box of electrickery. As Marks says there's a brown-ish coloured disc just behind the control switch inside the casing, I don't know about getting dirty but, if when you're fitting one of these motors to your Senator & lose the disc as you're removing the motor from the scrap car, then your sunroof won't work ..... apparently! ::) :y :y
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Mine did that. cleaning the black disc cured it . Its like a mini cd about 1/4" thick.
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If it operates on its own then this sounds like the control box may have developed a fault. If so it will need a replacement (DON'T go to Vx; they will want to sell you the box AND motor together for £500+ :'().
The sunroof motor & gubins that controls the anti-trap & positioning are all in the one box, I had an Omega sunroof motor in my Senator, there isn't another box of electrickery. As Marks says there's a brown-ish coloured disc just behind the control switch inside the casing, I don't know about getting dirty but, if when you're fitting one of these motors to your Senator & lose the disc as you're removing the motor from the scrap car, then your sunroof won't work ..... apparently! ::) :y :y
In my facelift 2.5 CDX there is a separate box as at the moment one is being obtained for my car under warranty, with the dealer concerned having to aquire the motor in the same package although I do not require it. ;)
Of course if there is a disc involved no doubt these can become dirty and require cleaning, but do not rule out the control box! :y
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In my facelift 2.5 CDX there is a separate box as at the moment one is being obtained for my car under warranty, with the dealer concerned having to aquire the motor in the same package although I do not require it. ;) ......
Mmmm? Only being Joe Bloggs I don't have a copy of EPC to look at the parts but, pulling the wool & eyes springs to mind. I can't see a preface lift's sunroof motor being any different from a face lift's.
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In my facelift 2.5 CDX there is a separate box as at the moment one is being obtained for my car under warranty, with the dealer concerned having to aquire the motor in the same package although I do not require it. ;) ......
Mmmm? Only being Joe Bloggs I don't have a copy of EPC to look at the parts but, pulling the wool & eyes springs to mind. I can't see a preface lift's sunroof motor being any different from a face lift's.
Well all I can say is the motor in mine is still in place but the faulty control box, and dial control, is now missing awaiting its replacement! :y If the motor and control box were all one the motor would not be still there, the big space where the control box would be filled and the dial would not be missing! ;)
How the pre-facelift is set up or not I do not know, but that is the situation with my facelift CDX! Indeed when the warranty work has replaced the control box I will end up with a spare sun roof motor as Vx only sell the TWO parts as one package for £500+. :y
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i never use my sunroof,but just as i was setting of for london this evening i heard a strange noise,looked up,and it had decided to open itself,thankfully it closed ok as about 5 minutes later it was raining so hard i struggled to see where i was going. :o
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I've had a peruse of the EPC and as far as I can see .. the sun roof is a "Tudor Webasto" unit ...
The "control unit and motor assembly" (original part number 90459138 no longer used, present part number 90565382) LOOKS to be in two parts, but is only sold as a single integrated unit.
This applies to all ELECTRIC sun roofs, regardless of model .. :)
HTH
:)
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I've had a peruse of the EPC and as far as I can see .. the sun roof is a "Tudor Webasto" unit ...
The "control unit and motor assembly" (original part number 90459138 no longer used, present part number 90565382) LOOKS to be in two parts, but is only sold as a single integrated unit.
This applies to all ELECTRIC sun roofs, regardless of model .. :)
HTH
:)
This confirms what I have been told by the dealer AND seen with my own eyes :y
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I'm glad I haven't got a sunroof. :-X
Kevin
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I'm glad I haven't got a sunroof. :-X
Kevin
Yes, I don't know why I am bothering really with climate control and all that! :-/ It is good on a lovely English summers day when you just want pure country fresh air though! ;D ;D
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That's when you need one of these:
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/Westfield_Avatar.jpg)
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Kevin
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That's when you need one of these:
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/Westfield_Avatar.jpg)
:y
Kevin
How right you are again Kevin ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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Or.. if you're feeling a little more sedate, this little beauty I spotted at Dover when leaving for my summer hols. :-*
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/imgp1649.jpg)
Kevin
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Or.. if you're feeling a little more sedate, this little beauty I spotted at Dover when leaving for my summer hols. :-*
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/imgp1649.jpg)
Kevin
Wow! That is a classic Kevin and I remember the Mk1 Cortina only too well! ;D If it was a GT version it would be ace, but this one is good enough! :y :y I still prefer the Mk2 Cortina 1600E though! :y
CORRECTION: I have just noted the Cortina IS a GT; DOUBLE WOW!!
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when its a nice day for driving with the sunroof open....im on 2 wheels,hence the sunroof never gets used. 8-)
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Or.. if you're feeling a little more sedate, this little beauty I spotted at Dover when leaving for my summer hols. :-*
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/imgp1649.jpg)
Kevin
Lovely one, and the one behind too. But I understand what you mean by "leaving" for your "summer" holidays, can see the grey rainclouds gathering at Dover ready to move inland for the rest of us :-[
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Or.. if you're feeling a little more sedate, this little beauty I spotted at Dover when leaving for my summer hols. :-*
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/imgp1649.jpg)
Kevin
Lovely one, and the one behind too. But I understand what you mean by "leaving" for your "summer" holidays, can see the grey rainclouds gathering at Dover ready to move inland for the rest of us :-[
There were quite a few Cortinas on our ferry. We got embroiled in the "Cortinas to Cortina" rally. 8-)
Kevin
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Or.. if you're feeling a little more sedate, this little beauty I spotted at Dover when leaving for my summer hols. :-*
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/kjwood/Car%20Pictures/imgp1649.jpg)
Kevin
Lovely one, and the one behind too. But I understand what you mean by "leaving" for your "summer" holidays, can see the grey rainclouds gathering at Dover ready to move inland for the rest of us :-[
There were quite a few Cortinas on our ferry. We got embroiled in the "Cortinas to Cortina" rally. 8-)
Kevin
I still miss the Cortina's; they were good reliable business workhorses that I found a pleasure to drive. Although I had Mk2, Mk3, Mk4 & Mk5 (the last three estates) versions, it is the Mk5 I particularly liked. However now I really would love a good condition collectors Mk2 1600E (in metallic silver!) :y :y :y. All the Cortina's were simple to work on, none of the electronics you have now, and no bloody sensors!!
;D ;D
If I remember correctly the most revolutionary item on any of these cars was the then new concept of a 'crossflow' engine on the Mk 2's! :y
To get back to the original thread: their sun roofs, when fitted usually as an option on the models I had, often leaked!! ;D ;D