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Title: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 29 April 2008, 18:38:37
Im going to buy another omega and i would like to know what the main differences between an elite and a cdx are. The model i currently own is a 94 elite but im thinking of going for a 2000 2.5v6 cdx
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: markey mark on 29 April 2008, 18:43:58
xenons leather auto dipping rear view mirror memory on seats heated seats in rear and bose sound system !! :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Richie London on 29 April 2008, 18:47:47
ive a 98 cdx mini facelift
 havent got rear screen blind, slef leveling lights, titling mirror, heated rear seats, memory seats, bose surround, and a few more i think,
ive leather seats, cruise, and everything else i think. fog lights xenon lights

richie
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 April 2008, 18:48:13
Could some one please define the "BOSE" sound system to me.

Bose to me is the hifi company.

But Phillips and Blaupunkt are the main component suppliers
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Albatross on 29 April 2008, 18:58:12
I might get shouted at by someone for mentioning it :-[, but there's self-levelling suspension too on the Elite (certainly later one's; not so sure of the pre-facelift).
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: humbucker on 29 April 2008, 19:03:02
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Could some one please define the "BOSE" sound system to me.

Bose to me is the hifi company.

But Phillips and Blaupunkt are the main component suppliers

bose system = bose power amp and bose speakers, infinitely better quality than standard fitted ones

philips and blaupunkt supply the cd changer and head unit

easy way to tell if its bose (apart from the power amp in the boot) is that the rear parcel shelf speakers will have 'bose' logo on the grilles (going by mine anyway)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 April 2008, 19:08:47
 :y Much Appreciated.  :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 April 2008, 19:09:59
Had Bose in my Carlton Diplomat and must admit it was far supperior to the CDi I had before it.
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: humbucker on 29 April 2008, 19:10:22
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:y Much Appreciated.  :y

no problem. i'm sure there are others who can give you a less crude description, like the frequency differences etc, but that's the gyst of it

 :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: MutantCav on 29 April 2008, 20:00:53
If you can afford it...get an elite...unless you can live without the bits...
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: humbucker on 29 April 2008, 20:33:55
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If you can afford it...get an elite...unless you can live without the bits...

ýeah elite if you can... look out for one with satnav and all the toys too (ctr700 or integrated carphone etc)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Tony H on 29 April 2008, 20:56:37
One main drawback of getting an Elite over a CDX is if you like a manual gearbox they are a lot harder to find in Elite format
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Richie London on 29 April 2008, 21:08:58
is there much diff in the elite and the mv6??

richie
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: serek on 29 April 2008, 21:22:11
mv6 have less toys then elite,
mv6-sports seats
mv6-if is with leather only seats no side card
mv6-differences wheels
mv6-no memory seats
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 April 2008, 21:26:07
I think the suspension is stiffer on the MV6

I think most Elites have self leveling suspention, but this would be better confirmed other members. Dont know if the MV6 is self leveling.

Or was it an option on the Elite and the MV6?
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: tunnie on 29 April 2008, 21:54:42
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I think the suspension is stiffer on the MV6

I think most Elites have self leveling suspention, but this would be better confirmed other members. Dont know if the MV6 is self leveling.

Or was it an option on the Elite and the MV6?

MV6 is not self levelling.

All Elites post 98 had self levelling.

MV6 is basically CD spec, but with HID's and sport seats, and silver dash inserts.
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2008, 22:09:18
Is the CDX facelift or prefacelift?
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 29 April 2008, 23:51:58
power wise is there a big difference between the 3.0 and the 2.5 ?
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Andy B on 29 April 2008, 23:56:05
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power wise is there a big difference between the 3.0 and the 2.5 ?

About 30 bhp & it's noticable!  :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 00:08:43
yeah i thought that
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 00:29:08
the cdx im looking at is a facelift 2000 silver with black leather
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Iainv6 on 30 April 2008, 01:04:46
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the cdx im looking at is a facelift 2000 silver with black leather

Sounds a nice combination, i like the contrast of the silver with black interior :)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 01:07:03
yeah i like it too,my 94 elite has the same combination,i heva slight dark tint on it and was thinking of doing the same again
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Iainv6 on 30 April 2008, 01:14:39
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yeah i like it too,my 94 elite has the same combination,i heva slight dark tint on it and was thinking of doing the same again

Thought window tints were a big NONO in NI?? ;D
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 01:19:11
ive never had any bother yet,the psni still use omegas as the vip tranport although they are up armoured versions  and people always give me a 2nd look when i pass,mot wise its a no no as the old tint meter will most def be produced but thats the only hurdle,as long as they areny limo black it fine
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Iainv6 on 30 April 2008, 01:22:45
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ive never had any bother yet,the psni still use omegas as the vip tranport although they are up armoured versions  and people always give me a 2nd look when i pass,mot wise its a no no as the old tint meter will most def be produced but thats the only hurdle,as long as they areny limo black it fine

I guess the peace process has had an added dividend then, which is nice ;)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 01:26:47
a few years ago id say if you went through the wrong area you might get a brick through the window,but not now its def changed and for the better,the police tend to use vr32's passats and the odd focus st as pursuit cars nowadays
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 01:29:19
price wise how much do you all think an 02 2.5cdx is worth,yrs mot and tax ,clean with a good history ??
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 April 2008, 01:34:16
Would that be a 2.6 on an 02?
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 01:35:33
no a 2.5 on a 00 plate
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Iainv6 on 30 April 2008, 01:39:38
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no a 2.5 on a 00 plate

I suppose it depends where it is sold, if on the Bay then maybe 1000-1400 or so.
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: FRE07962128 on 30 April 2008, 06:26:17
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Im going to buy another omega and i would like to know what the main differences between an elite and a cdx are. The model i currently own is a 94 elite but im thinking of going for a 2000 2.5v6 cdx


Whilst agreeing with a lot of the previous comment I must say that the 2.5 V6 CDX I bought recently I find an absolute pleasure to drive, and BETTER than the 1996 3.0 Elite I used to own, but there again it was of course pre-facelift.  The CDX does lack the memory seats; heated seats in the rear; the self dipping mirror; the satnav and integral phone, but frankly I am NOT missing these at all as it has everything else you really require.

Nor am I missing the 30 bhp differrence in power strangly  as when I require the power the 2.5 still pushes a considerable punch. I do love speed, in the right place, and have taken the Elite up to and held 150 on a number of (clear motorway!!) ocassions, but how often do you really need to do that?  Overtaking in the 2.5 is superb, with again the power there in spades.  With petrol increasing rapidly and the road tax threat now firmly there, these factors I also considered when buying the year 2000 CDX.

So in conclusion although, yes undeniably, the Elite is certainly a great car, and if one suitable had been available I could well have been tempted to buy it, I am nowhere near feeling disappointed with the CDX! :y :y  So if you have a good example in your sights as I did go for it, at the right price of course! :y :y

On the question of price I found my immaculate example, 104k on the clock, but full dealer service history, new brakes, exhaust, tyres, cam belt, year's MOT, six month warranty, at a dealers for £2,495.  This I negotiated  down to £2000, but probably still paid too much in today's trading climate.  However at this price I did get everything intact and immaculate, the all important fdsh, with the new forementioned 'bits'.  If you hunt around there must be others at very good prices in this buyers market! :y :y

Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Humpy on 30 April 2008, 12:19:07
Can't you get a 2.5 Elite? At least in the facelifted versions? Might be one to look out for.

Humpy
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: humbucker on 30 April 2008, 15:45:24
dont forget, if you like the look of it, the mini-facelift elite has an awful lot more on it than the pre-facelift elite. it isn't necessarily as cut and dry as pre and post facelift with these cars!

 :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Andyb on 30 April 2008, 15:58:21
my car is a facelift estate a
2.5 manual elite with all the toys  inc phone and i love it
worth the extra cash over a cdx anyday
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: dene wakefield lad on 30 April 2008, 16:07:08
my cdx has leather/heated :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: tunnie on 30 April 2008, 16:10:55
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Im going to buy another omega and i would like to know what the main differences between an elite and a cdx are. The model i currently own is a 94 elite but im thinking of going for a 2000 2.5v6 cdx


Whilst agreeing with a lot of the previous comment I must say that the 2.5 V6 CDX I bought recently I find an absolute pleasure to drive, and BETTER than the 1996 3.0 Elite I used to own, but there again it was of course pre-facelift.  The CDX does lack the memory seats; heated seats in the rear; the self dipping mirror; the satnav and integral phone, but frankly I am NOT missing these at all as it has everything else you really require.

Nor am I missing the 30 bhp differrence in power strangly  as when I require the power the 2.5 still pushes a considerable punch. I do love speed, in the right place, and have taken the Elite up to and held 150 on a number of (clear motorway!!) ocassions, but how often do you really need to do that?  Overtaking in the 2.5 is superb, with again the power there in spades.  With petrol increasing rapidly and the road tax threat now firmly there, these factors I also considered when buying the year 2000 CDX.

So in conclusion although, yes undeniably, the Elite is certainly a great car, and if one suitable had been available I could well have been tempted to buy it, I am nowhere near feeling disappointed with the CDX! :y :y  So if you have a good example in your sights as I did go for it, at the right price of course! :y :y

On the question of price I found my immaculate example, 104k on the clock, but full dealer service history, new brakes, exhaust, tyres, cam belt, year's MOT, six month warranty, at a dealers for £2,495.  This I negotiated  down to £2000, but probably still paid too much in today's trading climate.  However at this price I did get everything intact and immaculate, the all important fdsh, with the new forementioned 'bits'.  If you hunt around there must be others at very good prices in this buyers market! :y :y


He is in NI, price of Omegas where is almost 5 times what is here.

We can't really give an accurate price for cars in Northern Ireland, i remember posts of people buying very old shape ones for lot more than we do!
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: albitz on 30 April 2008, 16:14:49
i find n.i. prices very similar to here on the mainland.i think the republic of ireland is a different story though.
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: tmx on 30 April 2008, 17:22:59
My MV6 has

Self leveling sus and all the toys off the elite except rear blind

EX BT Senior Managers car even hass all the options except Rear blind

And its a Manual 3.0 i am told these are very rare???

i did also retrofit bose into it as it originally had a CCR600
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: FRE07962128 on 30 April 2008, 17:37:55
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Im going to buy another omega and i would like to know what the main differences between an elite and a cdx are. The model i currently own is a 94 elite but im thinking of going for a 2000 2.5v6 cdx


Whilst agreeing with a lot of the previous comment I must say that the 2.5 V6 CDX I bought recently I find an absolute pleasure to drive, and BETTER than the 1996 3.0 Elite I used to own, but there again it was of course pre-facelift.  The CDX does lack the memory seats; heated seats in the rear; the self dipping mirror; the satnav and integral phone, but frankly I am NOT missing these at all as it has everything else you really require.

Nor am I missing the 30 bhp differrence in power strangly  as when I require the power the 2.5 still pushes a considerable punch. I do love speed, in the right place, and have taken the Elite up to and held 150 on a number of (clear motorway!!) ocassions, but how often do you really need to do that?  Overtaking in the 2.5 is superb, with again the power there in spades.  With petrol increasing rapidly and the road tax threat now firmly there, these factors I also considered when buying the year 2000 CDX.

So in conclusion although, yes undeniably, the Elite is certainly a great car, and if one suitable had been available I could well have been tempted to buy it, I am nowhere near feeling disappointed with the CDX! :y :y  So if you have a good example in your sights as I did go for it, at the right price of course! :y :y

On the question of price I found my immaculate example, 104k on the clock, but full dealer service history, new brakes, exhaust, tyres, cam belt, year's MOT, six month warranty, at a dealers for £2,495.  This I negotiated  down to £2000, but probably still paid too much in today's trading climate.  However at this price I did get everything intact and immaculate, the all important fdsh, with the new forementioned 'bits'.  If you hunt around there must be others at very good prices in this buyers market! :y :y


He is in NI, price of Omegas where is almost 5 times what is here.

We can't really give an accurate price for cars in Northern Ireland, i remember posts of people buying very old shape ones for lot more than we do!

If that is the case it is worth travelling over to the UK and buying an Omega here then!
 ;) ;)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: meaney on 30 April 2008, 18:07:28
thats the plan,i cant find any good ones over here
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: MV6Man on 30 April 2008, 19:23:58
Hmm. This is interesting topic as we don´t have that elite here in Finland.

I think MV6 could be bought here with all elite toys as option...
I have an -98 MV6 and it has xenons, navi,climate control, electric seats (no leather and no memory), that electric sun blind at back window, cruise, heated seats, and probably something that i don´t remember.
And yes, it´s with manual gearbox...
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: TheBoy on 30 April 2008, 19:27:27
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Hmm. This is interesting topic as we don´t have that elite here in Finland.

I think MV6 could be bought here with all elite toys as option...
I have an -98 MV6 and it has xenons, navi,climate control, electric seats (no leather and no memory), that electric sun blind at back window, and something that i don´t remember.
i seem to recall the Opel MV6 is near Vauxhall Elite spec...
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: FRE07962128 on 30 April 2008, 23:12:22
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thats the plan,i cant find any good ones over here

Yes, by the sounds of it that is your best option whether or not you buy a CDX or Elite :y
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Albatross on 30 April 2008, 23:17:34
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My MV6 has

Self leveling sus and all the toys off the elite except rear blind

EX BT Senior Managers car even hass all the options except Rear blind

And its a Manual 3.0 i am told these are very rare???

i did also retrofit bose into it as it originally had a CCR600

I'm a little confused here; I thought that MV6 cars had stiffer and slightly lower springs, but this one has self-levelling too.

I was told, in overtly strong and no uncertain terms, not to try putting MV6 springs onto my self levelling Elite. :-/

Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 April 2008, 23:52:02
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My MV6 has

Self leveling sus and all the toys off the elite except rear blind

EX BT Senior Managers car even hass all the options except Rear blind

And its a Manual 3.0 i am told these are very rare???

i did also retrofit bose into it as it originally had a CCR600

I'm a little confused here; I thought that MV6 cars had stiffer and slightly lower springs, but this one has self-levelling too.

I was told, in overtly strong and no uncertain terms, not to try putting MV6 springs onto my self levelling Elite. :-/

I wonder if the MV6 just gets Elite spec. suspension if self levelling is specified?

Kevin
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Albatross on 30 April 2008, 23:58:14
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My MV6 has

Self leveling sus and all the toys off the elite except rear blind

EX BT Senior Managers car even hass all the options except Rear blind

And its a Manual 3.0 i am told these are very rare???

i did also retrofit bose into it as it originally had a CCR600

I'm a little confused here; I thought that MV6 cars had stiffer and slightly lower springs, but this one has self-levelling too.

I was told, in overtly strong and no uncertain terms, not to try putting MV6 springs onto my self levelling Elite. :-/

I wonder if the MV6 just gets Elite spec. suspension if self levelling is specified?

Kevin

I'd like to know the real, and definitive truth here. I had conflicting advice on this from another source too: Tony at WIM said doing this with MV6 springs would be fine, but there you go ::)
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 May 2008, 00:02:11
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My MV6 has

Self leveling sus and all the toys off the elite except rear blind

EX BT Senior Managers car even hass all the options except Rear blind

And its a Manual 3.0 i am told these are very rare???

i did also retrofit bose into it as it originally had a CCR600

I'm a little confused here; I thought that MV6 cars had stiffer and slightly lower springs, but this one has self-levelling too.

I was told, in overtly strong and no uncertain terms, not to try putting MV6 springs onto my self levelling Elite. :-/

I wonder if the MV6 just gets Elite spec. suspension if self levelling is specified?

Kevin

I'd like to know the real, and definitive truth here. I had conflicting advice on this from another source too: Tony at WIM said doing this with MV6 springs would be fine, but there you go ::)

I would have thought the MV6 shocks are firmer though. You'd need to adjust the "aiming point" of the self levelling so it's not constantly trying to pump it up to elite ride height too. Might just be a case of adjusting the sensors, maybe not...

I guess you'd need to comparte part numbers between the models and see what is different, and if any self levelling parts are specified for MV6 models.

Kevin
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Albatross on 01 May 2008, 00:08:16
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I would have thought the MV6 shocks are firmer though. You'd need to adjust the "aiming point" of the self levelling so it's not constantly trying to pump it up to elite ride height too. Might just be a case of adjusting the sensors, maybe not...

I guess you'd need to compare the part numbers between the models and see what is different, and if any self levelling parts are specified for MV6 models.

Kevin

Any ideas on where to start looking for the part numbers between the two cars?

I read on a site that the MV6 is 15mm lower too, but I want to find that out for sure too.

I had factored in the adjsutment to the self levelling sensor, but if it turns out that the shocks on a self-levellign MV6 are different then I would't mind replacing the lot.

My problem is finding someone who KNOWS the differences and I'll do it properly. There are lots of people with opinions, most of whom disagree or, at least, conflict.

I could go for an aftermarket sports suspension kit, but they all seem to lower the car by a minimum of 30mm which is too much.
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: MV6Man on 01 May 2008, 10:02:20
EPC is a great for comparing different parts...
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: Albatross on 03 May 2008, 07:18:43
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EPC is a great for comparing different parts...

Do any members have access to a legitimate EPC for the omega range that they could look the difference in the springs and shocks and respective part numbers up on?
Title: Re: whats the difference between an elite and a cdx
Post by: TheBoy on 03 May 2008, 10:15:50
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EPC is a great for comparing different parts...

Do any members have an EPC for the omega range that they could look the difference in the springs and shocks and respective part numbers up on?
wont tell you the difference is spec, hence why I haven't already.  remember, epc is a simple tool for dealers to get like for (factory fitted) like ;)