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Title: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Jim on 26 May 2008, 21:30:47
Well the omega went in for it's MOT on saturday and failed on the handbrake, so today I thought I would take it apart to see what the problem was and it appears that the 2 pins which hold the handbrake shoes in place have ripped through the backing plate, and now the hole's are to big to fit new pins so do I need to replace the backing plate and if so how do I replace it.

The photo below shown the hole for the pins in red and the bolts for the plate are in yellow, do I have to remove the 4 bolts which are on the plate and remove the hub to change the plate.


(http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/275000-275999/275300_350_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: CaptainZok on 26 May 2008, 21:41:02
Not much help I'm afraid Jim but could you weld a washer in to allow the pins to be used on the old plate?
Seem to remember someone saying taking the rear hubs off was a pig of a job but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 May 2008, 21:46:23
IIRC as long as the shoes are held correctly with the pins through the holes then it will pass.. Why not just put washers behind the pins?? I see no reason to weld them to the backplate.
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Entwood on 26 May 2008, 21:50:44
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IIRC as long as the shoes are held correctly with the pins through the holes then it will pass.. Why not just put washers behind the pins?? I see no reason to weld them to the backplate.

Agreed ... fixed the cortina that way years back !!! It was a tad fiddly and involved cutting the washer so it could be bent "open" to get the t-piece through, then bending back to position and a touch of araldite to hold in position ....  add some "spray" underseal to hide it .. and it sailed through the MOT  :)
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Jim on 26 May 2008, 22:18:22
So do you think if I get a bolt the same length and diameter as the t shaped pin and put it through the the spring then through the handbrake shoe and then put a washer and bolt on the back of the plate to secure the bolt that should work, what do you think
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Entwood on 26 May 2008, 22:29:52
You can't bolt the spring in .. it needs to move about ... the idea is to use a washer to make the worn hole back to its original size and stop the t-piece pulling through .. :)
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: CaptainZok on 26 May 2008, 22:30:13
Think I'd be trying that Jim. As long as it's secure and working should be fine. Maybe use some thread lock on the nut so it doesn't come undone.
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Jim on 26 May 2008, 22:44:53
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You can't bolt the spring in .. it needs to move about ... the idea is to use a washer to make the worn hole back to its original size and stop the t-piece pulling through .. :)
The problem I have with using a washer is that the original hole is not round, it's a slot shape, the blade on the bottom the of t shape pin goes through the slot then turns 90 degrees to lock it
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: CaptainZok on 26 May 2008, 22:47:02
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You can't bolt the spring in .. it needs to move about ... the idea is to use a washer to make the worn hole back to its original size and stop the t-piece pulling through .. :)
The problem I have with using a washer is that the original hole is not round, it's a slot shape, the blade on the bottom the of t shape pin goes through the slot then turns 90 degrees to lock it
File or grind the slot into a washer then proceed as before?
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Entwood on 26 May 2008, 22:48:39
yup ... if you bend a washer slightly then position it over the slot it still locks quite well, the dab of araldite was a sort of insurance .....

From my days of bodge it and keep it going ... money was tight and the car was needed ... I realised what the phrase "needs must" was all about !!!!
Title: Re: Car failed it's MOT for handbrake, need advice!!!!
Post by: Kev on 27 May 2008, 21:00:25
Remember Jim.......

Safety is no accident.  :y