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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: VX1 on 30 May 2008, 19:30:43
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I need some heavy duty rear shocks for my elite for towing a caravan as the rear of the car seems a bit to low for my liking.
Where can I get some of these type of rear shocks?
TIA Paul :y
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Hi Paul
Forgive me if I am wrong but dont the Springs define the ride height, I thought the shocks took the bounce and roll out of driving under braking and cornering for example. But I am aware that upraded shocks and even adjustable shocks can alter the "damping" factor.
Springs can be ordered with different ride heights, but also they they can be ordered as stiffer springs (say 10% or 20% stiffer)
If I am wrong I appologise
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yes mate as skruntie as said springs not shocks mate unless you have an elite what has air assited shockers !! :y
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Shocks can define ride height, as per prefacelift MV6
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I need some heavy duty rear shocks for my elite for towing a caravan as the rear of the car seems a bit to low for my liking.
Where can I get some of these type of rear shocks?
TIA Paul :y
Is your self leveling suspension working? My Elite is great with the 'van on even with a bit too much nose weight.
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Hi Paul
Forgive me if I am wrong but dont the Springs define the ride height, I thought the shocks took the bounce and roll out of driving under braking and cornering for example. But I am aware that upraded shocks and even adjustable shocks can alter the "damping" factor.
Springs can be ordered with different ride heights, but also they they can be ordered as stiffer springs (say 10% or 20% stiffer)
If I am wrong I appologise
Sorry
I also forgot about the air shocks, had them on my Carlton CDi, so should have known better.
In fact I had them on the flying brick, could raise the car a few inches, was a better set up than the Carlton as well as it had a little gauge fitted.
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You can also get some nylon type 'donuts' which feed into the springs and raise the height, maybe an inch?
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If it's your springs that have settled then these are what you want.
They firmed up the rear and stay level when loaded .
I fitted them for the opposite reason to yourself as the originals were too high and the car looked awful.
These along with new gas shocks and the lower profile new 45 series tyres have transformed the handling making it stiffer but still comfortable.
The last photo shows the car unladen so you can compare it with yours as is.
Note that the car is a CD with conventional gas shocks .
No idea of the price new ,I got them off "issanuz" on this site.
HTH's
Don
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Springslabel2.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Springs2.jpg)(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/DSCF0003.jpg)
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As far as I know I don't have self levelling suspension but I could be wrong, how would I find this out? (Bieng a bit dumb here) If its springs I need then these will be purchased. Thanks for the advise and I will get this sorted as soon as possible.
Paul :y
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As far as I know I don't have self levelling suspension but I could be wrong, how would I find this out? (Bieng a bit dumb here) If its springs I need then these will be purchased. Thanks for the advise and I will get this sorted as soon as possible.
Paul :y
Look towards the top of the rear shocks, self levellers have a thin air pipe connected onto the shock body.
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Where abouts is the pump located for the self leveling suspension?
TIA :y
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
Yes, and yes they do. SP_3.2 (Steve) was having his fitted whilst I was down there having my MV6 springs fitted. He'll be able to tell you what they charged him too.
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
Yes, and yes they do. SP_3.2 (Steve) was having his fitted whilst I was down there having my MV6 springs fitted. He'll be able to tell you what they charged him too.
Nice one, thanks.
Mine needs new ones, and front shocks, might as well have the whole lot done, and the alignment done straight after.
Do we know if they will fit parts that the customer provides?
I know some places won't fit stuff you give them...
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Where abouts is the pump located for the self leveling suspension?
TIA :y
Under the front bumper, driver's side. The fuse for it is No 27
When I first got my car, I discovered that someone prvious had swapped the standard selflevellers for standard dampers & pulled the plug from the compressor. :-? Maybe someone previous to has also tried to 'improve' the ride height! ;)
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Where abouts is the pump located for the self leveling suspension?
TIA :y
Under the front bumper, driver's side.
That's mad!
So the sensor is at the rear trailing arm, which then sends a signal to the front bumper which then pumps air all the way back to the rear shocks?
Surely not. I'm not questioning you, more the designer if this is the case.
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Where abouts is the pump located for the self leveling suspension?
TIA :y
Under the front bumper, driver's side.
That's mad!
So the sensor is at the rear trailing arm, which then sends a signal to the front bumper which then pumps air all the way back to the rear shocks?
Surely not. I'm not questioning you, more the designer if this is the case.
it is ....... & don't call me Shirley! ;) :y :y
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Where abouts is the pump located for the self leveling suspension?
TIA :y
Under the front bumper, driver's side.
That's mad!
So the sensor is at the rear trailing arm, which then sends a signal to the front bumper which then pumps air all the way back to the rear shocks?
Surely not. I'm not questioning you, more the designer if this is the case.
That is correct.
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
Yes, and yes they do. SP_3.2 (Steve) was having his fitted whilst I was down there having my MV6 springs fitted. He'll be able to tell you what they charged him too.
Nice one, thanks.
Mine needs new ones, and front shocks, might as well have the whole lot done, and the alignment done straight after.
Do we know if they will fit parts that the customer provides?
I know some places won't fit stuff you give them...
Used to, not sure how. Ring them - trust me, they are friendly and helpful. Or PM WIM, either here or on their forum.
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
Yes, and yes they do. SP_3.2 (Steve) was having his fitted whilst I was down there having my MV6 springs fitted. He'll be able to tell you what they charged him too.
Nice one, thanks.
Mine needs new ones, and front shocks, might as well have the whole lot done, and the alignment done straight after.
Do we know if they will fit parts that the customer provides?
I know some places won't fit stuff you give them...
Used to, not sure how. Ring them - trust me, they are friendly and helpful. Or PM WIM, either here or on their forum.
Yes they will. SP_3.2 took his own wish-bones along. I took my own (2nd hand) MV6 springs down and I'm going there on Tuesday with my brand new MV6 shocks on Tuesday. They do carry some more common parts such as steering idler linkages, but they fully expect you to come down with parts espcially as they know you as a TC card holder can probably get them cheaper than they can.
As TB says, give them a call, they are exceedingly nice, reasonable and down to earth blokes. Tony will answer the phone and is the owner and technical Wizard, but Mark who works on the front office will reassure you about what you can do.
When I went down they fitted the springs and as they were putting the car back together the shock mounting bolt snapped. Mark jumped in the pick-up, rushed out to a local scrapyard and came back with a small box full of bolts about 3/4 of an hour later. No charge.
Then when I was ready to leave I didn't have enough cash on me (underestimated teh cost of fitting the springs: my fault) and they let me go, no questions, and trusted me to come back and settle up in a couple of weeks when I was getting the shocks fitted.
I can't stress enough how much I agree with TB and that you should call them mate.
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I just switched from Elite with self levelling to MV6 springs which as a vast improvement and then the MV6 shocks (non-self levelling) all round will be fitted Tuesday.
Much better :y.
Do you know if WIM fit wishbones?
Yes, and yes they do. SP_3.2 (Steve) was having his fitted whilst I was down there having my MV6 springs fitted. He'll be able to tell you what they charged him too.
Nice one, thanks.
Mine needs new ones, and front shocks, might as well have the whole lot done, and the alignment done straight after.
Do we know if they will fit parts that the customer provides?
I know some places won't fit stuff you give them...
Used to, not sure how. Ring them - trust me, they are friendly and helpful. Or PM WIM, either here or on their forum.
Yes they will. SP_3.2 took his own wish-bones along. I took my own (2nd hand) MV6 springs down and I'm going there on Tuesday with my brand new MV6 shocks on Tuesday. They do carry some more common parts such as steering idler linkages, but they fully expect you to come down with parts espcially as they know you as a TC card holder can probably get them cheaper than they can.
As TB says, give them a call, they are exceedingly nice, reasonable and down to earth blokes. Tony will answer the phone and is the owner and technical Wizard, but Mark who works on the front office will reassure you about what you can do.
When I went down they fitted the springs and as they were putting the car back together the shock mounting bolt snapped. Mark jumped in the pick-up, rushed out to a local scrapyard and came back with a small box full of bolts about 3/4 of an hour later. No charge.
Then when I was ready to leave I didn't have enough cash on me (underestimated teh cost of fitting the springs: my fault) and they let me go, no questions, and trusted me to come back and settle up in a couple of weeks when I was getting the shocks fitted.
I can't stress enough how much I agree with TB and that you should call them mate.
Blimey, fantastic stuff. I must get mine booked in soon.
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Are the Police Estate rear shocks and springs not heavy duty?
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Just checked the rear shocks and don't have any thin pipes going to the shocks at all, but I have noticed that there is a single wire which has been tied up with a multiplug on, number 27 fuse is in the fuse box. Does this mean I have self leveling suspension but someone has put standard shock on or my 97 3.0ltr Elite dosen't have it?
Paul :y
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Just checked the rear shocks and don't have any thin pipes going to the shocks at all, but I have noticed that there is a single wire which has been tied up with a multiplug on, number 27 fuse is in the fuse box. Does this mean I have self leveling suspension but someone has put standard shock on or my 97 3.0ltr Elite dosen't have it?
Paul :y
Have you got a compressor under the bumper? I doubt whether the previous owner has removed all the plastic tubing from the front to the back of the car. The air supply is via a single tube & then splits into two IIRC near the diff.
I thought all Elites had self levellers on.
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Just checked the rear shocks and don't have any thin pipes going to the shocks at all, but I have noticed that there is a single wire which has been tied up with a multiplug on, number 27 fuse is in the fuse box. Does this mean I have self leveling suspension but someone has put standard shock on or my 97 3.0ltr Elite dosen't have it?
Paul :y
Sounds like it infinitely possible and highly probable. Have you got a small black box on the chassis at the rear of the car near the driver's side trailing arm with a flat metal bar and a rod with two plastic ball joints (one at each end).
That is the self-levelling sensor and often easier to find than the pump.
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Are the Police Estate rear shocks and springs not heavy duty?
I think that 'Police' and MV6 are the same spec on the suspension front.
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Just checked the rear shocks and don't have any thin pipes going to the shocks at all, but I have noticed that there is a single wire which has been tied up with a multiplug on, number 27 fuse is in the fuse box. Does this mean I have self leveling suspension but someone has put standard shock on or my 97 3.0ltr Elite dosen't have it?
Paul :y
Sounds like it infinitely possible and highly probable. Have you got a small black box on the chassis at the rear of the car near the driver's side trailing arm with a flat metal bar and a rod with two plastic ball joints (one at each end).
That is the self-levelling sensor and often easier to find than the pump.
I will check this in the morning albatross. The last time I was underneath the car I didn't notice one, but at the same time I wasn't looking for one. The other thing is I haven't noticed any tubing going towards the rear shocks just a thin cable with a multipug on. I will take some pics tomorrow to clarify.
Paul :y
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...... easier to find than the pump.
It's a bloody big thing .... compared to the level sensor! ;D