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Title: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 18:54:56
Just gone to move the car and the key wont turn in the ignition :( never had a problem with it before, no signs of sticking or anything, any clues :question apart from telling me its fooked :-[
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Danny on 29 March 2007, 18:57:06
wrong key?
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: STMO123 on 29 March 2007, 18:58:05
Mine scares me by doing this now and again. Sometimes I cant get it out :-[

A good jiggle and WD40 usually does it.
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 19:08:10
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Mine scares me by doing this now and again. Sometimes I cant get it out :-[

A good jiggle and WD40 usually does it.

Gonna try that in the morning ;) hope it works :-/
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: STMO123 on 29 March 2007, 19:26:26
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Mine scares me by doing this now and again. Sometimes I cant get it out :-[

A good jiggle and WD40 usually does it.

Gonna try that in the morning ;) hope it works :-/

Dont forget to turn the steering wheel back and forth :y
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: ClarCE on 29 March 2007, 20:27:55
Is yours an auto?  Not something to do with needing to be in park, or some kind of lock is it?
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 20:31:00
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Is yours an auto?  Not something to do with needing to be in park, or some kind of lock is it?

No, I've got driver involvement pack on mine ;)
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Elite Pete on 29 March 2007, 20:36:25
Because your using the key and not a screwdriver ;D
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: ClarCE on 29 March 2007, 20:59:06
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Is yours an auto?  Not something to do with needing to be in park, or some kind of lock is it?

No, I've got driver involvement pack on mine ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: STMO123 on 29 March 2007, 21:38:54
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Because your using the key and not a screwdriver ;D

Oi. You've been spending too much time on the wrong side of the river ;D
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Elite Pete on 29 March 2007, 21:48:50
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Because your using the key and not a screwdriver ;D

Oi. You've been spending too much time on the wrong side of the river ;D

No mate they just burgle your house for the car keys over there ;D
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Matchless on 29 March 2007, 21:56:49
Assuming you have the correct key etc etc....
This can be due to a worn key, do you have a second one to try?
Can also be caused by a sticking 'lever' in the barrel, a good douse in WD40 and repeated insertion of the key might free it.
Can also be due to worn levers in the barrel, it can be fixed but first you need to remove the barrel which means that you have first to be able to turn the key....catch 42.

If you can get the key to turn then remove the barrel and dismantle it, look for one (or more) of the brass levers sticking up very slightly when the key is inserted, a fine swiss file or sharpening stone can be used to trim the lever flush with the inner barrel.
Or just get a new set of locks and keys.

I have a spare barrel which has this exact problem, I will try to get some pics of dismantling it and the fix, it seems to be a fairly common problem so perhaps a maint. guide is in order.
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: ians on 29 March 2007, 22:43:56
I had this same problem a while ago.

It happened intermittently for a few months - usually a bit of jiggling worked.
Then it took more and more jiggling to free up.

I decided to strip it down and try to figure out the problem.   Sods law on that occassion it took me best part of a day to get it to turn, which as matchless says you need to do to remove the barrel (in fact its difficult to get the steering wheel off if you can't turn it).

Cleaning it may work,  but for the thirty odd quid I would recommend forking out on a new barrel, before it starts to stick badly.   If you have your key code, they can get you one to your existing key pattern.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 22:49:28
Never ever had a problem before, not even stuck once :-/
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: ians on 29 March 2007, 22:57:43
Nor had I until it stuck ;)
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Matchless on 29 March 2007, 22:58:53
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Never ever had a problem before, not even stuck once :-/

Most likely to be a stuck lever due to dried grease or a spec of grit then. Keep spraying WD or penetrant into it and jiggle. If it comes free I would still strip it and clean it properly, looking for burrs etc.

Any chance you used a wrong key just before this happened?
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 22:59:53
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Nor had I until it stuck ;)

Best get the WD out in the morning and hope for the best :o
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 29 March 2007, 23:02:35
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Any chance you used a wrong key just before this happened?

Yup, think i might have put the Veccy key in there first  :-[
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: ians on 29 March 2007, 23:03:28
Yeah good luck!

but suggest you get it sorted one way or the other while you can still turn it, otherwise you have a much bigger problem.

Cheers
Ian

matchless - I'm interested to know how to strip the barrel too - couldn't see how to do that.
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 30 March 2007, 12:29:56
Well im in the shit now, copious amounts of WD, lots of wiggling and it wont budge :'(
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Timbuk on 30 March 2007, 12:52:07
Got it, 2 hours of WD and wiggling about and its free :y
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: Elite Pete on 30 March 2007, 14:19:15
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Got it, 2 hours of WD and wiggling about and its free :y

OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh matron :D
Title: Re: Ignition Barrel
Post by: V8S on 09 June 2008, 18:28:57
Did anyone ever do a maintenance guide to taking the ignition barrel apart?