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Title: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 19 June 2008, 14:17:01
Just been quoted £100+VAT for a pair of front discs from the Stealers.

Any suggestions where I can get them at a sensible price - Halfords maybe? I'm pretty limited for time - need them buy Saturday.

Cheers,

Andrew
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Jimbob on 19 June 2008, 14:22:16
£100 should easily get you the Disk and Pad Axle set on trade club ;)
May also need a wear sensor or 2.

Brake Disc & Pad Kit, Front
                                                               Retail         Trade       Tradeclub
All models exc. 2.0 to '97       93175466       £98.50       £81.31       £71.40
all plus vat

They are highly recommended over post pattern ones for noise, performance and longevity.

If you havent got a tradeclub card, where are you based, someone may be able to help you out  :y
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 14:22:59
Disks and pads from stealers on a Trade Club Card.  Not sure where you live, maybe there is someone local.

You just missed a few sets on Fleabay of Genuine Disks and Pads @ £50
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 June 2008, 14:27:09
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£100 should easily get you the Disk and Pad Axle set on trade club ;)
May also need a wear sensor or 2.

Brake Disc & Pad Kit, Front
                                                               Retail         Trade       Tradeclub
All models exc. 2.0 to '97       93175466       £98.50       £81.31       £71.40
all plus vat

They are highly recommended over post pattern ones for noise, performance and longevity.

If you havent got a tradeclub card, where are you based, someone may be able to help you out  :y

Lol

We posted at the same time. :y
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: carper on 19 June 2008, 14:31:09
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Just been quoted £100+VAT for a pair of front discs from the Stealers.

Any suggestions where I can get them at a sensible price - Halfords maybe? I'm pretty limited for time - need them buy Saturday.

Cheers,

Andrew

Not sure where in the country you are  :question

I use Autovaux (Wakefield) ........

http://www.autovaux.co.uk/LoadPortal.aspx?cnum=23&tabid=5&vnum=141
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 19 June 2008, 14:41:08
The car is in North Essex.

For some reason I just thought that they be a fair bit cheaper. Gonna push us over the magic £1k budget.
Will inspect the current ones first and providing that there is no uneven wear, will stick with them I think. Already bought some Fast Road pads for it - so will just put those on and chnage the brake fluid for a higher spec. Dealers quoted me almost £200 for OE dicsc and pads.....

....incidently, whilst I have your attention - what does the handbrake adjustment look like, where is it, is there one for each wheel and is it pretty straightforward and obvious once under the car? And finally, does it matter which order the brakes are bled on a '96 car?

Cheers,

Andrew
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: ians on 19 June 2008, 17:48:46
There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.

Haynes contains the bleed sequence - not sure how critical it is.
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 20 June 2008, 11:09:44
The handbrake works but you have to pull it righ to the top.
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 June 2008, 11:15:27
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There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.

Haynes contains the bleed sequence - not sure how critical it is.


Do it right and it wont need doing very often  :y

Bleed sequence is not important just dont get any air in it!
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Andy B on 20 June 2008, 11:18:15
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Bleed sequence is not important just dont get any air in it!

I would tend to agree but, Haynes does give two sequences depending on year of car.
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 20 June 2008, 11:20:04
Yeah, I was thinking that it's recommended on the later cars to bleed in a diagonal split?
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 20 June 2008, 11:24:37
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There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.


Hmm....it just says "now you can adjust the handbrake cable...."

Nevermind, I'm sure that I'll figure it out when I'm under the cars. I'm used to adjusting the cable at the handbrake end, rather than the barke end.
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 June 2008, 12:56:11
I got mine from Autovaux
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: ians on 20 June 2008, 13:06:53
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There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.


Hmm....it just says "now you can adjust the handbrake cable...."

Nevermind, I'm sure that I'll figure it out when I'm under the cars. I'm used to adjusting the cable at the handbrake end, rather than the barke end.

basic proceedure is
- remove heatshields under car - Plusgas recommended to avoid shearing studs)
- slaken off under car (may already be slack with handbrake off)
- adjust at each rear wheel so the shoes are just off the drum
- tighten under car so lever comes on at an appropriate number of clicks

..strange I thought Marks guide covered this :-/

The problem I have never reaslly successfully dealt with is that setting the central adjuster such that it is just starting to bite at 3 clicks (ie notice some resistance when spinning the wheels), still means that I have to pull the handbrake up to my armpit to get it to hold the car on a hill.

I would welcome any enlightenment :y


Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 20 June 2008, 13:50:22
I thought that the guide was for changing the rear discs? Will have to read properly rather than skimming...
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Entwood on 20 June 2008, 13:52:14
This link does both discs/pads and the handbrake system

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 June 2008, 14:02:23
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There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.


Hmm....it just says "now you can adjust the handbrake cable...."

Nevermind, I'm sure that I'll figure it out when I'm under the cars. I'm used to adjusting the cable at the handbrake end, rather than the barke end.

Yes, best read the guide.

The first thing it says to do is slacken the handbrake cable......the final stage is 'now you can adjust the handbrake cable....'

The key thing is that the cable is slack for all the other operations because the adjusters set the shoe to drum clearance.....th cable then simply applies the shoes. Trouble is that many cowboys just tighten the handbrake cable (because its easy) up which you shouldn't do on ANY shoe based handbrake setup!
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 June 2008, 14:04:02
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There is a maintenance guide for the handbrake adjustment - a bit of a pain in my view.


Hmm....it just says "now you can adjust the handbrake cable...."

Nevermind, I'm sure that I'll figure it out when I'm under the cars. I'm used to adjusting the cable at the handbrake end, rather than the barke end.

basic proceedure is
- remove heatshields under car - Plusgas recommended to avoid shearing studs)
- slaken off under car (may already be slack with handbrake off)
- adjust at each rear wheel so the shoes are just off the drum
- tighten under car so lever comes on at an appropriate number of clicks

..strange I thought Marks guide covered this :-/

The problem I have never reaslly successfully dealt with is that setting the central adjuster such that it is just starting to bite at 3 clicks (ie notice some resistance when spinning the wheels), still means that I have to pull the handbrake up to my armpit to get it to hold the car on a hill.

I would welcome any enlightenment :y




If set right it should be fully on at about 7 clicks.

Did you fully strip the handbrake setup and then set the shoe adjusters so you could just feel a little drag?

Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: ians on 20 June 2008, 14:32:07
Mark,

I didn't actually remove the shoes (which had plenty of lining) but did adjust the shoes as described at the knurled wheel.
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 23 June 2008, 12:40:46
Well my Black Diamond pads never arrived.......so whilst I was at the dealers getting some filters, I enquired about pads.
Was told the same on the phone - only do Disc & Pads as a set and they are £200+.....

....however, in person, they only charged me £80! Apparently they were the last on the shelf and they just wanted shot of them - I think that the dealers in Colchester (Underwoods) are getting rid of Vauxhall and moving to Peugeot, Saab, Hynudai etc - the guy sold me everything at trade price - bit of a result.

Didn't get to fit the brakes though as I managed to destroy my trolley-jack.......
Title: Re: Brake discs - where to buy?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 June 2008, 14:12:05
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Mark,

I didn't actually remove the shoes (which had plenty of lining) but did adjust the shoes as described at the knurled wheel.


In which case you may have a siezed/tight pivot on the actuator arm or maybe the cable seized to the actuator.