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Title: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: JohnM on 01 July 2008, 20:05:19
Unavailable at the weekend to get banned, but able to play miggys anyway I spend a happy Saturday half-doing some jobs.

So I thought I should check that drain.  So having gone about it the long way round (two wipper arms on the floor!); I was, and still am, perplexed.  Where is the Beasty?

I should add it was all quite dry in there other than a tiny bit of damp 'stuff' (removed most) at the very bottom of a rubber bung rearward of a loom heading into the engine bay.  So I'm assuming all is actually well in there.

No photos so a sketch follows.
Whilst I'd expect this to be the same on all, this one is a mini-facelift 2.5 auto with a/conn.  Narrow (white) paper? cabin filter that came out from two clips near the top of the plastic holder/molding.


|------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
|                              |                      filter unit                 |
|                              |                                                  |
|      bung                 |                                                    |
|                              |    X                                               |
|                              |                                  sm.loom         |
|                              |                                                  |
|      loom                 |                                                    |
|                              |--------------------------------------------|
|                              |                                                       |
|------------------------|                    strut top


Mmm, realised I can't really remember the bits here.

Anyway, I expect the bung to have a route out as this looks like it *could* go to the wheel arch behind the strut, but it definately felt really solid.  I couldn't get me hand down there very well so could pull the bug up and out.

So, was I close or need to pay more attention?
- has anyone got a bright photograph of the article.

>corrected for mini-facelift
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: johnnycboy on 01 July 2008, 20:19:13
thats the bung at the bottom, I used a cable fish rod to push all the crap out then flushed it through.  when cleared water will drain down into engine bay and out.  ;)
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: rickyboy on 01 July 2008, 20:20:17
Power washer works a treat!
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: JohnM on 01 July 2008, 20:43:36
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thats the bung at the bottom, I used a cable fish rod to push all the crap out then flushed it through.  when cleared water will drain down into engine bay and out.  ;)
Was yours also looking dry/okay before you did that.  
I do wonder if someone has fitted a solid bung in mine - or is it *that* blocked?
Where in the engine bay is it's outlet?
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: Richard A on 01 July 2008, 20:47:37
The outlet is at "x" but it then turns towards the N/S/F wheel on a pre-face lift 2.5 with aircon, on later models it drains forward. So look under the F/N/S wheel arch and you should see a rubber flap, lift it open, all sorts of sh!! should come out. :y :y
Good luck
Regards
Richard a
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: johnnycboy on 01 July 2008, 20:51:10
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thats the bung at the bottom, I used a cable fish rod to push all the crap out then flushed it through.  when cleared water will drain down into engine bay and out.  ;)
Was yours also looking dry/okay before you did that.  
I do wonder if someone has fitted a solid bung in mine - or is it *that* blocked?
Where in the engine bay is it's outlet?

mine was partially blocked, water in the bottom, even after i cleared it, it does seem solid but thats ok. look down the passenger side engine bay and u will see a run off at the bottom, thats where the fluid runs out.  hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: JohnM on 01 July 2008, 21:10:18
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The outlet is at "x" but it then turns towards the N/S/F wheel on a pre-face lift 2.5 with aircon, on later models it drains forward. So look under the F/N/S wheel arch and you should see a rubber flap, lift it open, all sorts of sh!! should come out. :y :y
Good luck
Regards
Richard a
Ah, you spotted my "x".  I couldn't believe the drain would be that high.  So it could stand with 3-4 inches of water without draining lower?? (Would explain the 'overflow' problem into the inside).  That will take a smaller rod than I was using.

So to be clear - poke through the smaller bung/stop at about 'x' (which IIRC is about half way up the bulge) - after finding the flap in the wheel arch and getting wet!
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: feeutfo on 01 July 2008, 21:27:47
did 2.0 99 f lift a while back.standing by side of car, the "bung" was at bottom of deepest part of the furthest section, the bung is the drain and has a right angle bend and drained facing to the front of the car, water ran forward( to the rad) along a "trenched" chasis member. i could not just poke through down to the floor as chasis member was in the way.

 Did not go near the under side or the car for lack of a wet suit. :y
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: alexandjen on 01 July 2008, 21:39:58
Have you had a look at this?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206287560

 :y :y
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: bigdods on 02 July 2008, 13:17:28
Do you have to remove the wipers to get to this or is there an access hatch on top of the scuttle ?
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: Entwood on 02 July 2008, 13:19:14
Access panel is windscreen bottom edge, right corner as you look at the engine bay, peel the thick rubber strip back about 9 inches to make it easier to pop the panel .. it is hinged at the windscreen edge.

HTH
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: bruce on 02 July 2008, 13:59:01
I used this guide to clean my drain out, worked a treat.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167524083

Bruce
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: Richard A on 02 July 2008, 16:17:37
Sorry John, the drain IS at the very bottom, anyway you found the outlet under the F/N/S/wing, face lift models ie after '99 drain in the engine bay.

regards
richard a
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: ians on 02 July 2008, 17:48:24
The term 'bung ' is misleading - sounds like a bath plug that would stop it draining!  Its actually more of a grommet.

I used a piece of stiff electrical cable (the single core stuff they use for wiring houses, not flex) bent to shape (courtesy of a guide somewhere :y)

Personally I wouldn't recommend blasting it with a  hose - that is more likely to fill the whole scuttle up if its blocked and then you definitely cant see what you are doing.
Title: Re: Sanity check - scuttle drain
Post by: JohnM on 02 July 2008, 20:33:45
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Do you have to remove the wipers to get to this or is there an access hatch on top of the scuttle ?
I was doing this the challenging (long) way round!
- Yeah, I got that (afterwards) and it was being a bit of a s*d to get back too.

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I used this guide to clean my drain out, worked a treat.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167524083
Bruce
Photos look too dark on my monitor, why I asked if anyone had some bright photos.

Okay, I'm offically confuzzled.  I know the drain should be at the bottom but I don't want to puncture an otherwise good bung.  Everything was quite dry in there so I'll leave it and consult later (and I know the 'secret' way in now anyway).
Are all the cars the same ?

- you know, if the car was out I'd open her up again and take some photos myself!