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Title: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 20 August 2008, 16:43:49
Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Albert1 on 20 August 2008, 16:46:11
This is for the pre-facelift, prob similar for yours:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1192573381
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 20 August 2008, 16:48:10
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster

Mmmm  must be something in the air cause the same one on mine has just gone  :P ... does anyone have a part no for the bulbs and how many will i need if i change them all while im there ? :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 20 August 2008, 16:51:37
It's the gremlins!! The gremlins I tell you!! MWAH HA HA HA!!!

Good question though - probably not a bad idea to replace the lot....I'd be interested in this too if anyone has the info....?

Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 20 August 2008, 16:56:10
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster

Mmmm  must be something in the air cause the same one on mine has just gone  :P ... does anyone have a part no for the bulbs and how many will i need if i change them all while im there ? :y

VAU 093190932   £1.03 ex-VAT  Caffyns April 2008

VAU 093190467   £0.72 ex-VAT      "  "     "       "

These are the numbers for both sizes of bulbs found on the panel; I believe if I remember correctly the top one is the larger of the two, but it is worth getting a number of them to replace all whilst you are at it!  ;)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 20 August 2008, 16:56:37
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It's the gremlins!! The gremlins I tell you!! MWAH HA HA HA!!!

Good question though - probably not a bad idea to replace the lot....I'd be interested in this too if anyone has the info....?


 Yeah knowing my luck i'll change one then a week later another goes ... as well doing them all if i can find the little things  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 20 August 2008, 16:58:15
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster

Mmmm  must be something in the air cause the same one on mine has just gone  :P ... does anyone have a part no for the bulbs and how many will i need if i change them all while im there ? :y

VAU 093190932  

VAU 093190467

These are the numbers for both sizes of bulbs found on the panel; I believe if I remember correctly the top one is the larger of the two, but it is worth getting a number of them to replace all whilst you are at it!  ;)

Ah so there are some of different sizes .... how many of each would we need and how wil i know where to put them  :-/
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 20 August 2008, 16:59:18
Just for info - the video at the bottom of http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1192573381 kindly suggested by Albert1 seems to be taken in facelift model......

Ideal!!

Thanks to all for help and suggestions!!
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 20 August 2008, 17:00:46
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster

Mmmm  must be something in the air cause the same one on mine has just gone  :P ... does anyone have a part no for the bulbs and how many will i need if i change them all while im there ? :y

VAU 093190932  

VAU 093190467

These are the numbers for both sizes of bulbs found on the panel; I believe if I remember correctly the top one is the larger of the two, but it is worth getting a number of them to replace all whilst you are at it!  ;)

Ah so there are some of different sizes .... how many of each would we need and how wil i know where to put them  :-/

On my facelift I believe it was two large and 4 or six small, but I could be wrong. :-/ :-/  Getting old and my mind is going! ;D ;D ;)



Sorry I missed this question;  it is very easy to see which is which and they simply twist out. :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Albert1 on 20 August 2008, 17:02:26
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Just for info - the video at the bottom of http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1192573381 kindly suggested by Albert1 seems to be taken in facelift model......

Ideal!!

Thanks to all for help and suggestions!!

MR Albert1 to you.   lol
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 20 August 2008, 19:25:33
After releasing the screws which way does the dash come out .... do i pull it forwards or does it get pivited in towards the middle of the car ... and how much wiring is there to disconnect ... do i need to disconnect the battery .... im going to try and do it tomorrow but just want to be sure i dont break anything taking it out .... :-/

Thanks
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: dbug on 20 August 2008, 21:24:59
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After releasing the screws which way does the dash come out .... do i pull it forwards or does it get pivited in towards the middle of the car ... and how much wiring is there to disconnect ... do i need to disconnect the battery .... im going to try and do it tomorrow but just want to be sure i dont break anything taking it out .... :-/

Thanks

Pull left hand side back towards you to release elec connectors then slide out to the left - right hand side fits into clip.  Took me 10 mins to get out & fit new bulbs & refit.  By the way i didn't disconnect the battery - too much hassle in recoding everything - altho i suspect others will recommend you disconnect it (safe practice!)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Elite Pete on 20 August 2008, 21:34:40
Dont turn the ignition on with the clocks removed or you'll get the engine managment light on. Dont ask me how I know this ::)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Jimbob on 20 August 2008, 21:36:27
And an awful lot of telltale faults next time someone connects a tech2  ::)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: dbug on 20 August 2008, 21:37:48
Best to do this job with keys securely in back pocket!!!!!!
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 21 August 2008, 11:25:11
Help please  :-[    .... how do i release the grey connector on the mid display ..... i dont want to just pull it incase im doing it wrong .... dash is out but i need to disconnect this plug  :-/
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 21 August 2008, 12:41:07
No problems now .... managed to get it off and out .. all fixed now  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 21 August 2008, 12:43:49
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Hi,

I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't seem to find it....

One of the bulbs has gone on my 2003 Omega 2.2DTi Estate's instrument cluster. The one behind the right of the speedo, and behind the fuel gauge to be precise.

I imagine that this is a simple job to get at and replace, but don't want to end up unscrewing/breaking the wrong bits in my quest to remove the instrument cluster (if that is what I need to do....)

Can anyone point me in the right direction for a guide as to how to replace the bulb?

Cheers,

ChocolateMonster


How did you get on .... i got mine out and changed after a little panic on how to release the grey MID plug ..... im normally a bit uneasey playing around with cars but im determined to have a go at things myself this time  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 21 August 2008, 20:42:03
Haven't had a go yet....

Off to buy the bulbs tomorrow, and then have a crack at it this weekend...

Will let you know.....glad you were the guinea pig!!!

Cheers!!!
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 21 August 2008, 21:00:13
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Haven't had a go yet....

Off to buy the bulbs tomorrow, and then have a crack at it this weekend...

Will let you know.....glad you were the guinea pig!!!

Cheers!!!

Its really easy .... if it wasnt for me being unsure about unplugging the MID i rekon it could be done in 20 mins .....the Vx garage i went to said there were 3 bulbs .... but there are in fact 4 if thats any use to you (on mine anyway) ... part number is   9195062    ....  58p each  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: shyboy on 22 August 2008, 11:51:41
I've got my instrument panel out to renew an illumination bulb, and rang Ormskirk Vauxhall to order this and an additional warning light bulb to do the trailer warning light conversion.
Firstly, they refused to quote or confirm a part no. because 'they change too often'. Secondly, even though they asked for the vehicle reg. no. as a means of identifying the actual model version, they say there are three large ones when in fact there are four, but the fact that I had the panel in front of me cut no ice with them. Furthermore, they wanted to know what the bulb ratings were, and couldn't give me this info. from the computer screen they were using.
 Also, they have to be bought in packs of 10, because they aren't prepared to hold them in stock.
 What a waste of time these people are. They at least admitted at the end of the debate that Vauxhall's cataloguing system is cr*p.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Elite Pete on 22 August 2008, 11:55:01
If they only do them in packs of 10, it might be something to consider for the OOF shop.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: shyboy on 22 August 2008, 11:59:46
BTW, if you haven't done this job before, be aware that the lug for the screw in the centre of the panel fouls a plastic cover plate underneath the top cover as you try to remove the panel. Make sure you press this plate downwards gently as you slide the panel to the left to ensure proper clearance, to avoid marking the steering column shroud.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: shyboy on 22 August 2008, 12:05:29
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If they only do them in packs of 10, it might be something to consider for the OOF shop.
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Good idea, Pete, provided the bulb ratings and panel design were consistent over the years. I wouldn't count on it though.
If I can believe Ormskirk Vauxhall there must be a few different types around.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 August 2008, 12:15:31
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If they only do them in packs of 10, it might be something to consider for the OOF shop.
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Good idea, Pete, provided the bulb ratings and panel design were consistent over the years. I wouldn't count on it though.
If I can believe Ormskirk Vauxhall there must be a few different types around.

There are a few panel types but, the bulbs stayed the same.

And EPC is not hard to follow.....unless your only computer skill is turning on a PS!  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 22 August 2008, 12:45:28
Just phoned Rowcliffes Vauxhall in Taunton, and guy on parts desk was ultra helpful.

Got loads in stock, 4 put aside for me to collect at lunchtime, and he confirmed that 4 bulbs were indeed needed.

I didn't completely understand what he said, but he mentioned something about 3 for the dials, and one for the warning light (or something). Doesn't matter - point is, he inspired confidence, and was adamant I needed 4.

10/10 so far for Rowcliffes Vx in Taunton!!

Will let y'all know how I get on fitting them - but sounds like a relatively straight forward job. So if I cock it up, I probably won't admit to it on here!!

Thanks to all for your help!!

PS> Interestingly, he said that the parts system they use doesn't list the individual little warning lights. The mechanics just take out the old bulb and find a matching one out of stores.......
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: robby30 on 22 August 2008, 13:52:27
just done this on mine, its amazing the diference in the quality of service you can get at VX. went into AA Clark Bracknell asked the parts guy for the right number of bulbs for an omega dash no model mentioned, 2 minutes later he was back with 4 bulbs total cost about £3.
And its a dead simple job thanks to the links on here, thanks chaps :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 22 August 2008, 14:15:11
Just picked up the bulbs - and the pack had the remainder of the Vx Stock Control sticker still attached.

Further to "Elite Pete" and "Shyboy" comments, the pick quantity is indeed 10 - i.e. they do come in packs of 10 supplied to the dealer.

However, parts guy at Rowcliffe's in Taunton (and it would appear other dealers around the country) had no problem in splitting the pack and just giving me the 4 I need.....

I guess it depends how militant the guy behind the parts desk is at your particular dealer........ :-/

Hey ho......
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Proz on 22 August 2008, 15:01:25
Dont you just love your friendly local Vx dealership  >:( .... mind you mine isnt too bad depending who you speak too  :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: Albert1 on 22 August 2008, 15:22:45
Unless I'm mistaken, you don't actually need to unplug the MID - the clocks panel will tilt forward enough and rest face down on the steering column with the grey connector still in place, and you can access the bulbs that way.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: shyboy on 23 August 2008, 10:43:30
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Just picked up the bulbs - and the pack had the remainder of the Vx Stock Control sticker still attached.

Further to "Elite Pete" and "Shyboy" comments, the pick quantity is indeed 10 - i.e. they do come in packs of 10 supplied to the dealer.

However, parts guy at Rowcliffe's in Taunton (and it would appear other dealers around the country) had no problem in splitting the pack and just giving me the 4 I need.....

I guess it depends how militant the guy behind the parts desk is at your particular dealer........ :-/
Hey ho......

And whether they are interested in retaining further business from me.  ::)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 23 August 2008, 11:42:56
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I've got my instrument panel out to renew an illumination bulb, and rang Ormskirk Vauxhall to order this and an additional warning light bulb to do the trailer warning light conversion.
Firstly, they refused to quote or confirm a part no. because 'they change too often'. Secondly, even though they asked for the vehicle reg. no. as a means of identifying the actual model version, they say there are three large ones when in fact there are four, but the fact that I had the panel in front of me cut no ice with them. Furthermore, they wanted to know what the bulb ratings were, and couldn't give me this info. from the computer screen they were using.
 Also, they have to be bought in packs of 10, because they aren't prepared to hold them in stock. What a waste of time these people are. They at least admitted at the end of the debate that Vauxhall's cataloguing system is cr*p.


If I were you I would change your Vx Dealer for parts!  My  Caffyns Vx dealer does them in singles and to order using the part numbers I quoted earlier in this thread. ;)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 23 August 2008, 11:47:09
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If they only do them in packs of 10, it might be something to consider for the OOF shop.
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Good idea, Pete, provided the bulb ratings and panel design were consistent over the years. I wouldn't count on it though.
If I can believe Ormskirk Vauxhall there must be a few different types around.

There are a few panel types but, the bulbs stayed the same.

And EPC is not hard to follow.....unless your only computer skill is turning on a PS!  :y


As I stated earlier the following are the part numbers for the SINGLE bulbs, NOT packs as available from Vx if you use the right dealer:

VAU 093190932   £1.03 ex-VAT  Caffyns April 2008

VAU 093190467   £0.72 ex-VAT      "  "     "       "

 ;)

Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 23 August 2008, 11:52:14
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BTW, if you haven't done this job before, be aware that the lug for the screw in the centre of the panel fouls a plastic cover plate underneath the top cover as you try to remove the panel. Make sure you press this plate downwards gently as you slide the panel to the left to ensure proper clearance, to avoid marking the steering column shroud.

This is true on pre-facelifts, but on facelifts you need to remove the top cover of the steering wheel shroud by releasing the scews, found on the front of this shroud when turning the wheel spokes to 6 and 12 oclock. ;)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: FRE07962128 on 23 August 2008, 11:53:58
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Unless I'm mistaken, you don't actually need to unplug the MID - the clocks panel will tilt forward enough and rest face down on the steering column with the grey connector still in place, and you can access the bulbs that way.

Agreed.  That's how I did mine! :y
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 26 August 2008, 09:39:21
Just in case anyone is REMOTELY interested  ;)

All done - no problems.....many thanks to all for their help.

Couple of points though.....

I found the screws that retain the instrument cluster to be those really annoying types that don't come away cleanly. In other words they cling on for dear life, until you have unscrewed it ALL the way.

I can see why this would be an advantage generally speaking, but if you're not expecting it they have a tendancy to "pop" out at the last moment - which usually results in the aforementioned screw being dropped (in this case) into the depths of the dashboard........

An hour later, when screw was finally retrieved, I thought that this was a suitable comment for this thread - in amongst the swearing and bleeding knuckles....

I guess I'm just clumsy!!  ::)

Once again - many thanks to all for their help!!
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster Bulb Replacement - Facelift
Post by: ChocolateMonster on 01 September 2008, 09:55:51
Just to put this one to bed, and hopefully contribute something to this thread.....

I took the opportunity to replace ALL the bulbs behind the instrument cluster when I was there.

For my 2003 (Facelift) Omega 2.2DTi, I needed the following bulbs to replace EVERYTHING....

(Part Numbers are Vauxhall Parts Desk Part Numbers)

2   x V0090566032        12v 2.0w (Warning Lights)     £1.27 (+ VAT)
12 x V0091155676        12v 1.1w (Warning Lights)     £0.85 (+ VAT)
4   x V0009195062        (Dial backlights)                    £0.58 (+ VAT)

If you have a MID, you may want to take the opportunity to replace the 4 bulbs there too. In which case you will want another:-

4  x V0090566032        12v 2.0w (Warning Lights)     £1.27 (+ VAT)

My car did not have a towbar or traction control, and so the apertures for those bulbs were empty.

Hope the above helps.....<grin>

Cheers!!