Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: MrTuco on 13 September 2008, 22:07:00

Title: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 13 September 2008, 22:07:00
Ok, I am sure this is nothing new but I can't see this Q in FAQs, so I will try this out for size.  I have bought new Coil pack, leads, plugs, rocker covers. & guess what!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yesppers, it still misfires & pops. I have thrown 500 squid at this car so I now need to keep it. The engine management light is now on, so do I take it to VX for diagnosis or is there something I am missing? All I want is a car that runs nice.
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: tunnie on 13 September 2008, 22:11:35
done a paperclip test?
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MutantCav on 13 September 2008, 22:14:05
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 13 September 2008, 22:18:07
Quote
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Ok, what is a paperclip test please?
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: RobG on 13 September 2008, 22:29:24
Quote
Quote
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Ok, what is a paperclip test please?
Look here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687 :)
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 13 September 2008, 23:12:22
OK, so I will do this test tomorrow & then post how many times it flashes & in what order, if this is correct then would someone be able to help me cure the car possibly?, I am sorry that I am not too good at this yet, but give me a few years & I will be ok at it..., cheers.
Quote
Quote
Quote
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Ok, what is a paperclip test please?
Look here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687 :)
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 13 September 2008, 23:13:48
I just replaced everything at once as it is a pain to get to things,I just thought it easier & thought that would do the trick once & forall
Quote
Quote
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Ok, what is a paperclip test please?
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 14 September 2008, 12:09:47
Hi, I did the paperclip test & to be honest I just do not understand what I am looking at, the EML does flash but then flashes in different sequences. Any chance of someone calling me & talking me through it, I know I am a pain in the butt, & am sorry? So can you call? Please.
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 14 September 2008, 13:12:10
Hi, I did the paperclip test & to be honest I just do not understand what I am looking at, the EML does flash but then flashes in different sequences. Any chance of someone calling me & talking me through it, I know I am a pain in the butt, & am sorry? So can you call? Please.
Quote
I just replaced everything at once as it is a pain to get to things,I just thought it easier & thought that would do the trick once & forall
Quote
Quote
Air leak?? Did you just replace stuff randomly to see if it fixed it?? If you have an EML light on then paperclip it :)
Ok, what is a paperclip test please?
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: dbug on 14 September 2008, 18:25:03
Watch the video!! - http://images.omegaowners.com/images/guides/paperclip_test/paperclip.html
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 14 September 2008, 19:16:26
OK, I have done the "paperclip" test & these seem to be the codes I have, can anyone tell me what they mean please.........132-,59,-&31 Many Thanks.
Quote
Watch the video!! - http://images.omegaowners.com/images/guides/paperclip_test/paperclip.html
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: Entwood on 14 September 2008, 19:36:16
132   Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Feedback Incorrect Signal
59   Intake Manifold Valve 1 Voltage Low
31   No Engine RPM Signal - normal with the engine not running :)

all here ... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1160152415

I'd be checking the connections around the engine to ensure evrything is plugged in properly ...
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 14 September 2008, 20:17:01
WOW that is awesome, ty so much, ok, my next thing is,  where is the manifold valve & do I just replace it & same with the EGR valve? any suggestions, I am sure all connections are good around the engine. Many thanks, you guys are Genius's you eally are...
Quote
132   Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Feedback Incorrect Signal
59   Intake Manifold Valve 1 Voltage Low
31   No Engine RPM Signal - normal with the engine not running :)

all here ... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1160152415

I'd be checking the connections around the engine to ensure evrything is plugged in properly ...
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 September 2008, 20:20:22
Take the EGR valve off and clean it well ith paint sripper until the pintel inside moves freely, re-sit and then block the two ports off with a bit of coke can as I suspect it might be stuck open!

Check also the connection to the rear of the plenum which operates the multiram.
Title: Re: Misfire
Post by: MrTuco on 14 September 2008, 21:22:20
OK, where is the EGR valve located please & what is a Plenum & where is that located also please, & is the plenum part of the EGR valve or the other valve.? Sorry, I will learn soon & one day might be able to help others, or do you think there is no hope for me...lol, Cheers
Quote
Take the EGR valve off and clean it well ith paint sripper until the pintel inside moves freely, re-sit and then block the two ports off with a bit of coke can as I suspect it might be stuck open!

Check also the connection to the rear of the plenum which operates the multiram.