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Title: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 09 September 2008, 20:12:00
Hi all,
I have searched already for this topic but couldn't find an answer.
Drivers front door link check is gone, therefore quite annoying to get in/out of the car. I checked in other forums and there seemed to have been a problem with this link checks at the beginning of the Omega B area.
My question now: Does that still apply for my model? Is it "just" a change of the link check? Anybody an idea what this part costs?
Thanks for your answers!

The Hoffi
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 09 September 2008, 20:19:58
Hi

I have the same problem but on S reg car and on passenger door. I have heard that you can buy a repair kit but that it involves welding etc.

I would be interested to know if this is true.

Scottie
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: feeutfo on 09 September 2008, 20:21:04
try searching "check strap"
vx do a repair kit for the door, also change the gromit on the hinge as this is the cause, you probably hurd the cracking noise? unless the wind took it? ;)
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: feeutfo on 09 September 2008, 20:22:46
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Hi

I have the same problem but on S reg car and on passenger door. I have heard that you can buy a repair kit but that it involves welding etc.

I would be interested to know if this is true.

Scottie
some members have been able to use large washers and bolts, but depends how bad the tear is. :-/
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Timbuk on 09 September 2008, 20:30:17
Repair kit is best and only cost a few pounds
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: valliant72 on 09 September 2008, 20:38:45
i used large washers on both doors, passenger door strap was nearly ripped out, drivers door had cracked between both bolts. put washers inside and on the outside to clamp together the torn mounting, bit fiddly getting the inner washer in and holding the door strap, but patience will get ur there, both doors now open with no cracking., I was gonna weld but this saved me the aggro. :)
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: feeutfo on 09 September 2008, 20:39:06
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Hi

I have the same problem but on S reg car and on passenger door. I have heard that you can buy a repair kit but that it involves welding etc.

I would be interested to know if this is true.

Scottie
some members have been able to use large washers and bolts, but depends how bad the tear is. :-/
sorry,not clear, washers and bolts as apposed to welding in conjuntion with the repair kit, but depends how bad the damage is.
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Timbuk on 09 September 2008, 20:43:30
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Hi

I have the same problem but on S reg car and on passenger door. I have heard that you can buy a repair kit but that it involves welding etc.

I would be interested to know if this is true.

Scottie
some members have been able to use large washers and bolts, but depends how bad the tear is. :-/
sorry,not clear, washers and bolts as apposed to welding in conjuntion with the repair kit, but depends how bad the damage is.

No need for welding with repair kit
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: feeutfo on 09 September 2008, 20:48:18
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Hi

I have the same problem but on S reg car and on passenger door. I have heard that you can buy a repair kit but that it involves welding etc.

I would be interested to know if this is true.

Scottie
some members have been able to use large washers and bolts, but depends how bad the tear is. :-/
sorry,not clear, washers and bolts as apposed to welding in conjuntion with the repair kit, but depends how bad the damage is.

No need for welding with repair kit

you aint seen the door.twas bad. :(
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Timbuk on 09 September 2008, 20:51:30


Repair kit no's for one door

Plate x 2     9195961

Bolt  x 2     13104167

Bush x 1    90462823
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 10 September 2008, 13:55:41
@all: Wow, fast response! THANK YOU!!

@Timbuk: Perfect! So I then will march to the POS and ask for that kit. Without welding I am fine with that! I would def refuse welding on an 8 year old car!!! This would be a proper reason for rust coming up sooner rather than later!

Hope that the weather gets a bit dryer so that I can get that work done, want to have everything alright on that car!
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: ians on 10 September 2008, 15:26:20
Timbuks correct - no welding needed for the kit.
But you said 'link check is gone' - what did you mean by this?  
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: willyboy on 10 September 2008, 15:54:02
I think this may give you some idea as to what your after>>>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Door-Hinge-coupling-Strap-part-number-13150287_W0QQitemZ250291364985QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250291364985&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Sadly this is not for your car but is very similar you buy this hinge part for your model old one has pulled through Yes? anyway then you buy or make a back plate to put behind the inner door panel 2mm Thk x 10cm L x 3.2cms wide... approx then you need to drill 2 holes in it to match up with the bolt holes on your new hinge/brkt to allow you to bolt it to the plate part shown in the pic ,you also need a 3rd hole drilling then making big enough to allow the slider bit to go through into door, bit of drilling then filing it oblong.... Depending on how bad the hole is this will work most times

hope you get what I mean ! :y
No welding ...!!
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 11 September 2008, 12:45:52
@ians: I first thought the link check was just broken. Wouldn't have expected what I found out yesterday!  :o  So finally the link check on the drivers door ist really torn out from the upper part, the hole at the buttom seems to be all right (just checked from the outside)
The passengers door is just cracking (currently) so I will purchase the rep set for both sides to give the mounting the sturdiness it needs.
Good to hear that there is no welding necessary but under this circumstances I would have glued it rather then welded.

@willyboy: Do I get you right that I will need the door strap new anyway? Not that cheap for the Omega, £32.50 incl shipping costs  :(

All right so Saturday my nearest POS will get some business from me!

Thanks again for your help!

The Hoffi
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: ians on 11 September 2008, 13:41:55
I think its unlikely you will need a new check link assembly.

The first thing to do is replace the plastic bushes on the A pillar - this should stop the cracking on the passenger door, but do the drivers one as well.

Then remove the drivers check link assembly - you need to strip off the door card (and speaker I think), but not the plastic film (I'm going from memory).  The link assembly will come out from the inside.
The repair kit (2x plates and bolts) then sandwiches the torn metal on the door, and will be sufficient to deal with apparently quite bad damage - its worth spending some time to flatten the torn bits so the bolts can get a purchase on the threads in the check link assembly.

Give the link assembly a good grease and its worth painting the repair plates to avoid corrosion before reassembly.

Hope that makes sense.  
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 13 September 2008, 16:51:15
Hi guys,
just to complete this thread: I ve been to the Vauxhall retailer this morning and oredred the plates and other parts for the link check. Not that it is quite embarrasing for Vauxhall to have this issue with a car of that range, the repair kits cost 20 GBP each PLUS VAT!  >:(
But as I do not have the right tools there is no way arround the genuine parts.
So will mount them hopefully next weekend.

Regards
The Hoffi
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Andy B on 13 September 2008, 17:39:46
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Hi guys,
just to complete this thread: I ve been to the Vauxhall retailer this morning and oredred the plates and other parts for the link check. Not that it is quite embarrasing for Vauxhall to have this issue with a car of that range, the repair kits cost 20 GBP each PLUS VAT!  >:(
But as I do not have the right tools there is no way arround the genuine parts.
So will mount them hopefully next weekend.

Regards
The Hoffi

What's he quoting you for. Even if you were to do the full welded in repair panel at the front of the door, it's only a couple of quid, & the reinforcing plates that are usually used on their own to 'repair' the door are pennies.
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 September 2008, 18:10:18
I normaly pay about a fiver for 4 plates and some washers....
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 13 September 2008, 21:00:47
@andy b: Can genuine Vauxhall retailer quote their own prices as they want??? I just popped in and told the guy that I would like to have two repair kits for the link checks of my front doors of the Omega. He took my reg and there we went.......
As I understood there is only one type of repair kit available

@marks DTM Calib: Are they ready to be mounted or are you doing the drilling, etc. yourself?
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Richard A on 13 September 2008, 21:26:26
The item you have asked for information on is called a 'door check strap' no need to keep calling it a 'link check' !!!!!
regards
richard a
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Andy B on 13 September 2008, 22:24:07
Just thought. He's probably ordered the actual check strap. It's likely that yours is OK, it's the metal around the fixing points of the strap on yours that's ripped. You only need the repair plates.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152902108/0
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 15 September 2008, 12:01:31
@Richard A: Sorry, that was what was mentioned in the part catalogue. But will bare in mind. Thanks.

@Andy B: I told him that I need the repair plates for the torn out door check strap and to avoid this happening on the passenger site I ordered two. I also asked for the plastic bushes but on the computer for my W reg Omega there were no plastic bushes shown in the pictures.
I will give them a call today and try to ensure that they have ordered the correct parts.

@all: Again: Thanks for your help! Much appreciated

The Hoffi
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 15 September 2008, 12:16:31
There we go! That chap has ordered the check straps rather than the reinforcement plates. But I called in time, would have nbeen ordered at 3pm today!  ;)
Funny: Nobody knew what I was talking of, just gave him the part No and now we should be on track!

Regards
The Hoffi
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: ians on 15 September 2008, 14:20:33
FWIW the part number for the bushes (white plastic) is 90462823.   Just bought 4 of them (c 20p each). everyone should change these IMHO.

The plates are 9195961 , about a pound each. (2 per door)

Many dealers don't know about these I think because they are part of a service kit rather than the original vehicle.
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: BigAl on 15 September 2008, 22:36:40
Is it worth fitting this kit to a facelift Omega ?
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Hoffi on 16 September 2008, 12:00:38
@Big Al: That was exactly my first thought too! Unfortunately I have to admit the answer is: YES. And better do it before the inner mounting is messed up like it has happened with my drivers door!

Check the link Andy B has posted, this gives you exact what you want!
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 15 December 2012, 06:18:56
FWIW the part number for the bushes (white plastic) is 90462823.   Just bought 4 of them (c 20p each).

I just ordered some of these and the guy charged 72p Each plus VAT!!! I've been done!!! Lol...
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: biggriffin on 15 December 2012, 07:29:02
 72p each there goes this weeks pocket money ;D
 same as i paid for mine couple weeks ago,dont think i got the TC discount.
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: YZ250 on 15 December 2012, 08:26:20
FWIW the part number for the bushes (white plastic) is 90462823.   Just bought 4 of them (c 20p each).

I just ordered some of these and the guy charged 72p Each plus VAT!!! I've been done!!! Lol...

That is the current price.  :y  Gone up a bit with inflation as this thread is over 4 years old. Still relative and worth doing though as it gets rid of that horrible cracking noise when you open the door.  :y
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Shackeng on 15 December 2012, 08:55:20
@Big Al: That was exactly my first thought too! Unfortunately I have to admit the answer is: YES. And better do it before the inner mounting is messed up like it has happened with my drivers door!

Check the link Andy B has posted, this gives you exact what you want!

I think that you may be confused, this is a forum, and not twitter :y
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Keith ABS on 15 December 2012, 10:56:09
  I ordered mine from Andy C after getting all the part numbers from the maintenance guides on this forum.
Keith B
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 15 December 2012, 17:02:31
FWIW the part number for the bushes (white plastic) is 90462823.   Just bought 4 of them (c 20p each).

I just ordered some of these and the guy charged 72p Each plus VAT!!! I've been done!!! Lol...

That is the current price.  :y  Gone up a bit with inflation as this thread is over 4 years old. Still relative and worth doing though as it gets rid of that horrible cracking noise when you open the door.  :y
Doh! Didn't see the date! Still, a job worth doing all the same.
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2012, 17:21:23
@Big Al: That was exactly my first thought too! Unfortunately I have to admit the answer is: YES. And better do it before the inner mounting is messed up like it has happened with my drivers door!

Check the link Andy B has posted, this gives you exact what you want!

I think that you may be confused, this is a forum, and not twitter :y

Normal way on most forums of directing a reply to a specific postee (saves on quotes :D)  ::)
Title: Re: Link check front door, W reg
Post by: Shackeng on 15 December 2012, 18:48:21
@Big Al: That was exactly my first thought too! Unfortunately I have to admit the answer is: YES. And better do it before the inner mounting is messed up like it has happened with my drivers door!

Check the link Andy B has posted, this gives you exact what you want!

I think that you may be confused, this is a forum, and not twitter :y

Normal way on most forums of directing a reply to a specific postee (saves on quotes :D)  ::)

Is that right? I just use, e.g. Big Al, I guess he knows his name, and less typing rqd. However, I am always ready to learn. I have missed it as this and one other are the only forums I use, and neither of them have used it until now. ???