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Title: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 October 2008, 15:01:43
HELP ::)

I have a long list of jobs that I need to do to my 1998 MV6 manual and I don't know what order to do them in or where to start.

Could somebody knowledgeable on here please help me out. Can you tell me which jobs I should do at the same time (i.e so that I don't end up doing the same stuff twice).

Here is the list

Cam Belt and Water Pump
Clean Breathers
Rocker Gaskets
Manifold Gasket (I am sure it is this that is blowing)
Thermostat
Wheel Bearing
New front brake discs
Refurbish Wheels
Full Service
Possibly handbrake cable
Air con regas (not sure if it needs new parts or not)
Passenger door check strap
Have all scratches/rust resprayed

Think thats about it to start with. ::)

Thanks :y
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: Jimbob on 16 October 2008, 15:29:14
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HELP ::)

I have a long list of jobs that I need to do to my 1998 MV6 manual and I don't know what order to do them in or where to start.

Could somebody knowledgeable on here please help me out. Can you tell me which jobs I should do at the same time (i.e so that I don't end up doing the same stuff twice).

Here is the list

Cam Belt and Water Pump
Clean Breathers
Rocker Gaskets
Manifold Gasket (I am sure it is this that is blowing)
Thermostat
Wheel Bearing
New front brake discs
Refurbish Wheels
Full Service
Possibly handbrake cable
Air con regas (not sure if it needs new parts or not)
Passenger door check strap
Have all scratches/rust resprayed

Think thats about it to start with. ::)

Thanks :y

1. - all in one go, no point stripping down more than once
Cam Belt and Water Pump
Clean Breathers
Rocker Gaskets
Manifold Gasket (I am sure it is this that is blowing)
Thermostat

2.
Full Service
Wheel Bearing
New front brake discs
Possibly handbrake cable

3. - when you feel like it  ;D
Air con regas (not sure if it needs new parts or not)
Passenger door check strap - unless it just needs a new bush in which case do it 1st!
Refurbish Wheels
Have all scratches/rust resprayed
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: hotrod222278 on 16 October 2008, 15:42:18
Just be prepared to burn the midnight oil when changing the manifold gaskets, one side is hard and the other side is an absolute bathrug :-/
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: stowboy on 16 October 2008, 15:50:31
yep id agree with other posts-deffo do the mechanical work 1st :y
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: feeutfo on 16 October 2008, 18:30:35
allow a good weekend for 1 at least. Esp if youve never done it before/need to go buy tools/look up torque settings. Remember the 7p's, perfect planning prevents pess poor performance. Which is why my performance is usually crap. Plenty of guides in the maintenance section, and get a haynes book of lies, it only covers early cars but most of it is still relevant. Oh and get a cam locking kit, for the cam belt job. Far more accurate and almost makes it idiot proof. I usually start as early as poss. On friday and try to get it all apart by the end of the day, that usually gives me a chance to go and get anything from vx parts dept,before they shut at lunch time on sat. If anything breaks or is missing or the unexpected happens...hth
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: albitz on 16 October 2008, 18:58:03
get the cambelt /waterpump dvd from oof shop. It makes the job so much easier :y
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: sev on 16 October 2008, 20:43:23
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HELP ::)

I have a long list of jobs that I need to do to my 1998 MV6 manual and I don't know what order to do them in or where to start.

Could somebody knowledgeable on here please help me out. Can you tell me which jobs I should do at the same time (i.e so that I don't end up doing the same stuff twice).

Here is the list

Cam Belt and Water Pump
Clean Breathers
Rocker Gaskets
Manifold Gasket (I am sure it is this that is blowing)
Thermostat
Wheel Bearing
New front brake discs
Refurbish Wheels
Full Service
Possibly handbrake cable
Air con regas (not sure if it needs new parts or not)
Passenger door check strap
Have all scratches/rust resprayed

Think thats about it to start with. ::)

Thanks :y


I'd echo all of the above, having gone through this back in july.

As said, get the cambelt dvd and watch it - and rewatch it, and watch it again!

Obtain:
Cam locking Kit
Cam Cover gasket set from the OOF shop
Vx Part Number 9118135 which are the o-rings between the plenum and manifold
Sealing rings for the water transfer pipe to thermostat

As they sit at the top of the engine, you'll by nature do the breathers first

This means that your multiram setup will be out of the car

This exposes your thermostat which then allows you to take the old one out of the housing and so you can backflush the system
(you'll do a complete coolant change once you change the waterpump because you've already drained the rad by this point  :y )

In having the engine apart at this stage it will let you get to the manifolds
(you may find these easier with the aux belt off and tensioner out of the way - nearside engine is a little trickier)

having done all this, you'll drain or have drained the oil and will be in a position to change the plugs so that's your service done.

Do the cambelt and aux belt.

The aircon will be an easy win if you're lucky, other wise the condenser is a favourite to go tits up. I had my system checked and was told this - so it something that i'll sort out once the rest of the car is running sound.

The wheel bearings are integral to the hub, so you buy as a unit, which is better and fit to the steering knuckles, and at this point you can do your brakes at the same time.

Check straps are a quick doddle job costing under a quid! and can be done at any time.

Refurb wheels and cosmetics - leave till you know the rest of the car is running fine.  I'd also say do a paperclip test to see if at this point any other issues arise.

I'm going to do my wishbones suspension and brakes next on all four corners, so I know where you're coming from. But i'd rather the car looking less than perfect until all my mechanicals are done, and that included changing the gearbox filters and oil and possibly diff oil.

It might be worth seeing how much an mot station would charge you to just give it a once over on the ramp, and try to find one that does the council's vehicles and taxi's - strict but honest and fair.

So to summarise... mechanicals and rolling chassis first In my opinion.
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: BigAl on 16 October 2008, 23:16:29
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7p's, perfect planning prevents pess poor performance.
where's the seventh ?
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: ians on 16 October 2008, 23:23:23
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7p's, perfect planning prevents pess poor performance.
where's the seventh ?

pedantic ;D
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: cbs2 on 17 October 2008, 08:27:24
If your doing the rocker gaskets, I'd recommend doing the plugs & the HT leads at the same time.
Title: Re: Which jobs in which order??
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 17 October 2008, 10:57:10
Thanks for all the advice so far guys.

I am going to get all the stuff I need before I start so hopefully I won't get caught out halfway through.

I have never worked on anything like this before, I know the old A series engine inside out having owned minis for years and doing numerous engine changes etc.