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Title: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 19 September 2008, 08:30:28
HI Guys

The car i have bought had a faulty ignition barrel and has been replaced with a cheap and cheerfull barrel put on, I want to find a omega one with keys now and want to know how hard it is to install.

Hope you guys can help

Rob
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: feeutfo on 19 September 2008, 09:01:28
maybe one of the friendly breakers on here might help? If they get the keys with the car that is. There is a guide in maintenance section for removing the ignition barrell, and one for the drivers side central locking motor which will help with the door lock. You will need tech 2 and proof of ownership to programme the keys.

 By the way, what "cheap"barrell fits an omega?
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: MutantCav on 19 September 2008, 09:07:35
If you just change the barrel then you just need the key to go with that barrel...but then you have 2 keys one for the door one for the ignition...can send you an ignition barrel with key no problem...

On a 95 Omega you have a seperate immobiliser...and a passengers side door lock...

If you wanted a full lock set to match then you would need all the locks, the ignition barrel the immobiliser unit and the ECU...if its a matching spec and so on then it would just go straight in without tech2

You could get an ignition barrel made up to match your key...get the car pass and it will have the details required for Vaux (or cheaper sources) to do that...
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 19 September 2008, 09:15:59
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maybe one of the friendly breakers on here might help? If they get the keys with the car that is. There is a guide in maintenance section for removing the ignition barrell, and one for the drivers side central locking motor which will help with the door lock. You will need tech 2 and proof of ownership to programme the keys.

 By the way, what "cheap"barrell fits an omega?

Its a after market one whcih at the moment hangs down from where the ignaition should be, looks horrible and needs to be changed
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: MutantCav on 19 September 2008, 09:23:45
SO the aftermarket one you have isnt actually in the hole for the ignition?? Just wired in and hanging down?

Easiest way is to just put a replacement barrel in...got one here no problem...as said you will have a seperate key for ignition and door...really up to you but by far the cheapest option...
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 19 September 2008, 09:34:42
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SO the aftermarket one you have isnt actually in the hole for the ignition?? Just wired in and hanging down?

Easiest way is to just put a replacement barrel in...got one here no problem...as said you will have a seperate key for ignition and door...really up to you but by far the cheapest option...

Hi Mate

this sounds like the best plan, how much is the barrell

Cheers

Rob
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 19 September 2008, 19:22:22
A proper ignition barrel from Vauxhall cost about 70 quid. It comes with a dummy key. All they need is your VIN number but may well ask you for proof of ownership. They should have it next day.

Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 19 September 2008, 19:23:27
A replacement key costs about 80 Quid.
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 17 October 2008, 16:30:57
Ok Guys

Got myself a new barrel and key and was really suprised when i got it how diffrent they look. Im really stumped on what to do now.

The pic below shows what i have in the car at the mo

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/robhill1983/Car/DSC_00020.jpg)

And this is the barrell and key i recieved

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/robhill1983/Car/DSC_00022.jpg)

My question is what do i do first, really dont know what this guy who i got the car off has done

Hope you can help

Rob :'(
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 17 October 2008, 16:44:35
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My question is what do i do first, really dont know what this guy who i got the car off has done ......

Take all the shroud from the top of the steering column/under the steering wheel & have a look to see what's there. You must have a chip stuck somewhere for the imobiliser to 'talk' to.  :-?
There should be a 'hole' for you to just slot your 'new' barrel & key into. I suspect that,as your steering lock isn't doing anything that all the steering lock mechanism is in the seeler's wheelie bin. :-?
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 17 October 2008, 17:51:50
Ok Taken off the cover and found this

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/robhill1983/Car/DSC_00028.jpg)

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/robhill1983/Car/DSC_00029.jpg)
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 17 October 2008, 18:49:22
What's it like at the top of the column? The round bit that  you're holding should plug into the back of the ignition switch that sits on the column. Your looking for a tube towards the top of the column that your barrel complete with key will slide into.
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 17 October 2008, 19:06:59
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What's it like at the top of the column? The round bit that  you're holding should plug into the back of the ignition switch that sits on the column. Your looking for a tube towards the top of the column that your barrel complete with key will slide into.

Looks like the switch on the colum is missing, do u know if its easy to get a new one?

Cheers

Rob
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 17 October 2008, 19:12:19
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What's it like at the top of the column? The round bit that  you're holding should plug into the back of the ignition switch that sits on the column. Your looking for a tube towards the top of the column that your barrel complete with key will slide into.

Looks like the switch on the colum is missing, do u know if its easy to get a new one?

Cheers

Rob

the switch bit will be easy, there's plenty of cars being broken here. Of more concern, is what it'll fasten too, considering your steering lock appears to be non existant.
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 17 October 2008, 19:17:38
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What's it like at the top of the column? The round bit that  you're holding should plug into the back of the ignition switch that sits on the column. Your looking for a tube towards the top of the column that your barrel complete with key will slide into.

Looks like the switch on the colum is missing, do u know if its easy to get a new one?

Cheers

Rob

the switch bit will be easy, there's plenty of cars being broken here. Of more concern, is what it'll fasten too, considering your steering lock appears to be non existant.

yeah might be instresting where is the best place to ask etc
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 17 October 2008, 19:18:55
will take a picture in the moring of the whole thing and take it from there

Cheers

Rob
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 17 October 2008, 19:27:58
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will take a picture in the moring of the whole thing and take it from there

Cheers

Rob

OK!  :y
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 18 October 2008, 11:14:36
ok got the pic

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk156/robhill1983/Car/DSC_00027.jpg)

Hope you can help

Cheers

Rob
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 18 October 2008, 14:21:28
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ok got the pic


Hope you can help

Cheers

Rob

tha's gorra bit missin'  ::) Here's mine  :y

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/ignitionswitch7.jpg)

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/ignitionswitch6.jpg)


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/ignitionswitch5.jpg)


Wiper switch moved out of the way(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/ignitionswitch4.jpg)


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/ignitionswitch.jpg)
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 18 October 2008, 18:04:40
looks expensive will need to go to a scrappy and see what i can find

thanks for you help andy
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: Andy B on 18 October 2008, 19:11:40
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looks expensive will need to go to a scrappy and see what i can find

thanks for you help andy

It might be easier to fit a complete column. Is yours fixed ie your wheel doesn't tip? I'm sure that you could swap tp the later type.  :y
Title: Re: ignition barrel
Post by: hp7166 on 18 October 2008, 19:19:14
It dosnt tip at the mo will have to keep a eye out for a colum from somewhere

thanks for your help