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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Kate on 26 October 2008, 10:04:43
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How hard a job is it to replace cam cover gaskets on a V6? Could a beginner do if she followed the instructions on the oof?
I was thinking of trying it myself due to severe money problems.
What do you all think?
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It depends... :-/
Its not an easy job, but its not hard either!
It more fiddly than anything... and if you have a lot of patience, then you 'SHOULD' be ok... ::)
Have you ever worked on engines before though? as its not really the ideal 1st job to tackle really! ;D
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give it a go, just be methodical about it & take your time :y
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Start on the drivers side and 8Nm is not very hard and can be guessed at (hold rachet in middle and just nip them up)
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Hi,you should be able to do it just mark everything up and take photos as well.Dont forget to clean the breather pipes while its stripped down,one of mine was completely blocked and probably the cause of gaskets blowing.Good luck.. :)
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Well thanks for the advice! :y
I thought I would check the tightness of the cam cover bolts today and one snapped. I didn't even tighen it very hard. Will I be able to remove it with pliers with the cover off do you think?
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Well thanks for the advice! :y
I thought I would check the tightness of the cam cover bolts today and one snapped. I didn't even tighen it very hard. Will I be able to remove it with pliers with the cover off do you think?
The top of the bolt sheared off?
Have to take the cover off, try some mole grips on it.
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Well thanks for the advice! :y
I thought I would check the tightness of the cam cover bolts today and one snapped. I didn't even tighen it very hard. Will I be able to remove it with pliers with the cover off do you think?
The top of the bolt sheared off?
Have to take the cover off, try some mole grips on it.
Thanks. If I ever get the courage to start I'll try it. :y
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Can you buy the bolts btw?
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How hard a job is it to replace cam cover gaskets on a V6? Could a beginner do if she followed the instructions on the oof?
I was thinking of trying it myself due to severe money problems.
What do you all think?
As stated already it is not too difficult as mechanical jobs go, but it is certainly awkward and fiddly. ::) ::)
Follow the Guide, but note that it is easier to dismantle the wipers and fold back the scuttle panel to obtain better access, and when it comes to removing/replacing the passenger side engine bank cam cover it is best to pull back and tape/string up all the pipes and wires you can. Then various things, including the cam fixings themselves, will not so easily manage to pull off the cam cover gasket that you have so carefully put into place!! >:( >:(
I also managed to avoid completely disconnecting the throttle controls from the plenium, so I could simply 'flip it over' and move it out of the way with those cables still connected. 8-)
Also you have got to make double/tripple sure as you replace the cover (for both sides, but especially the passenger side) the half moon piece of gaskets squarely lines up with the corresponding cut out on the head. The DIS / engine lifting unit right in the way there can make that very difficult to check! ::) ::)
In addition do not do what I, and apparently others, have done and trapped the Knock Sensor wire (adjacent to the Idle Control Valve) in between the front of the cam cover and the cam belt drive housing/top of engine!! >:( >:(
Hope this helps a bit Kate, but if you require further advice just ask as usual. :y :y
Believe me, once you get into the routine of this job it is straightforward enough. :D :D ;)
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Thanks for that Lizzie! :y
Does anyone know if this set is any good:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-OMEGA-SAAB-V6-CAM-ROCKER-COVER-GASKET-SET-NEW_W0QQitemZ370075063077QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370075063077&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
More than the mig cost! :o
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Thanks for that Lizzie! :y
Does anyone know if this set is any good:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-OMEGA-SAAB-V6-CAM-ROCKER-COVER-GASKET-SET-NEW_W0QQitemZ370075063077QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370075063077&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Personnally Kate I would always just stick to genuine Vx gastets from your local dealer at about £51.42 +VAT for the pair with TC. ;) Vx Part No 090511451 for 2.5V6 :y
These do not appear to be genuine with other manufactures mentioned, although I could be wrong! ::) ::)
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
More than the mig cost! :o
Absolute bollxxks!!
Vx Part number 090511451 for 2.5 V6 :y You need two at £25.71 +VAT with a TC. :y
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Absolute bollxxks!! .......
You don't agree then?!?! ;) ;) :y :y
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
More than the mig cost! :o
Absolute bollxxks!!
Vx Part number 090511451 for 2.5 V6 :y You need two at £25.71 +VAT with a TC. :y
Exactly!
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
......and in my posts above!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
......and in my posts above!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
need o rings, and BLACK sealant ;)
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
......and in my post above!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
...... but you're a woman! :-? What do women know? :-/
*Runs and hides in a corner!* ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
......and in my post above!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
...... but you're a woman! :-? What do women know? :-/
*Runs and hides in a corner!* ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D
Well I must admit that I´m a bit clueless! ;D
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Can anyone on the oof supply the gaskets for me?
get genuine, and give part numbers to your stupid dealer. Part numbers listed in how2, and on OOF shop (sadly out of stock)
......and in my posts above!! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
need o rings, and BLACK sealant ;)
Why didn't you say before!! All your fault TB!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
0 - rings (set of 16) Vx No. 090411826 £2.24+ VAT with TC
Sealant (Black) Vx No. 090485251 £3.30 + VAT with TC
Inlet O-ring Set Vx No. 009118135 £10.70 + VAT with TC
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
More than the mig cost! :o
Absolute bollxxks!!
Vx Part number 090511451 for 2.5 V6 :y You need two at £25.71 +VAT with a TC. :y
i had the same problem with 2.0 litre the dealers said i had two buy covers as well but the lad who delt with me checked to see if the cavalier and vectra one where the same and they where ,what i could not under stand was why the same gasket was sold seperate for cavs and vecs but not for omega,strange i thought,so got the cav/vec one fitted no probs,i asume v6 vectra one will be the same gasket as well :y :y :y
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I'd go for it - I'm not that clued up on engines and I managed. I spent a fairly long time over it though, double checking everything on the way. Just take your time, and be prepared for the air to turn blue when you do the passenger side - definitely do the drivers side second. It's much more rewarding that way round.
I didn't move the scuttle - maybe the wires would move further if I had done? Still, I got the passenger side one in place on about the 6th attempt.
Don't buy all the gaskets in the How To - just the necessary ones. There's one set which will set you back 60 odd quid which you don't need.
Buy a can of carb cleaner from halfrauds to clear the breathers. I did the throttle body while I was in there too.
LABEL ALL THE LEADS!!! I did, badly, and then had a right carry on involving a very early rise the next day to take the plenum off again to rearrange most the leads to get the car to turn over again.
Go for it - and best of luck. I have to say that the only reason I did it myself was that I knew where to come to get help (and judging by the 'Top 10 Saddo Oofers' - it's a round the clock service :y)
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
More than the mig cost! :o
Absolute bollxxks!!
Vx Part number 090511451 for 2.5 V6 :y You need two at £25.71 +VAT with a TC. :y
i had the same problem with 2.0 litre the dealers said i had two buy covers as well but the lad who delt with me checked to see if the cavalier and vectra one where the same and they where ,what i could not under stand was why the same gasket was sold seperate for cavs and vecs but not for omega,strange i thought,so got the cav/vec one fitted no probs,i asume v6 vectra one will be the same gasket as well :y :y :y
It´s all very confusing! ;D
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Dealers definitely sell the gaskets all seperately. They probably won't have them in stock though. Or is that just my dealer - never has anything in.
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i have that problem dealers never seem to stock any thing :o :o :o
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Dealers definitely sell the gaskets all seperately. They probably won't have them in stock though. Or is that just my dealer - never has anything in.
Yes amazingly my Vx dealer had quite a few in stock when I required them! ::) ::) ::) ::)
............But then I wanted a screw (a metal one with a Torx head that is!! ::) ::) ::) ::)) and no they had to order it!! ::) ::) :D :D ;)
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I'd go for it - I'm not that clued up on engines and I managed. I spent a fairly long time over it though, double checking everything on the way. Just take your time, and be prepared for the air to turn blue when you do the passenger side - definitely do the drivers side second. It's much more rewarding that way round.
I didn't move the scuttle - maybe the wires would move further if I had done? Still, I got the passenger side one in place on about the 6th attempt.
Don't buy all the gaskets in the How To - just the necessary ones. There's one set which will set you back 60 odd quid which you don't need.
Buy a can of carb cleaner from halfrauds to clear the breathers. I did the throttle body while I was in there too.
LABEL ALL THE LEADS!!! I did, badly, and then had a right carry on involving a very early rise the next day to take the plenum off again to rearrange most the leads to get the car to turn over again.
Go for it - and best of luck. I have to say that the only reason I did it myself was that I knew where to come to get help (and judging by the 'Top 10 Saddo Oofers' - it's a round the clock service :y)
Thanks for that! :y
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I'd go for it - I'm not that clued up on engines and I managed. I spent a fairly long time over it though, double checking everything on the way. Just take your time, and be prepared for the air to turn blue when you do the passenger side - definitely do the drivers side second. It's much more rewarding that way round.
I didn't move the scuttle - maybe the wires would move further if I had done? Still, I got the passenger side one in place on about the 6th attempt.
Don't buy all the gaskets in the How To - just the necessary ones. There's one set which will set you back 60 odd quid which you don't need.
Buy a can of carb cleaner from halfrauds to clear the breathers. I did the throttle body while I was in there too.
LABEL ALL THE LEADS!!! I did, badly, and then had a right carry on involving a very early rise the next day to take the plenum off again to rearrange most the leads to get the car to turn over again.
Go for it - and best of luck. I have to say that the only reason I did it myself was that I knew where to come to get help (and judging by the 'Top 10 Saddo Oofers' - it's a round the clock service :y)
You are right on both accounts Jester!! 8-) 8-) 8-)
1. The head to intake gaskets (x3 linked in two's) are £10 plus each and I found were not required on this occassion.
2. There is always somebody on Forum to give you answers on any problems you may encounter.
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Thanks for all your advice! :y
Can some tell how much the total cost of all the required gaskets would be? :y
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Overtightening the bolts to try and "cure" a leak is something many people try and is never sucesfull. Due to the application of rubber gaskets the torque needed is extremely low, so tightening has no benefits.
So now, before you even think about fixing the leak, you need to fix this snapped bolt, or you are fighting a losing battle. It will never seal properly with a bolt missing.
You MAY be able to get the bolt out, but depends entirely on how much thread left there is. Best to get as much access as possible by removing the camcover. If you're lucky, you'll be able to get something on the bolt and wind it out.
If you're unlucky, it will have snapped of flush with the camshaft bearing shell. If this has happened you'll need to remove the bearing shell (in oder to stop swarf entering the hydraulic lifters and the engine) and get the thread in the shell drilled/tapped (I'm not sure helicoils go that low, but I could well be wrong)
Once that's fixed, you need to replace the gaskets. If you don't use hand tools often and don't have a "calibrated" hand, you need to use a torque wrench to get an even and consistent torque on all the bolts. If you don't, the job wasn't worth doing because it will leak again soon.
As discussed already you need to stay away from ebay gasket kits for camcovers - they may be a third of the price, but you'll be replacing them every few weeks (yes, pattern camcover gaskets are that bad)
The answer to this question is YES you can do this job, and you can do it yourself, but you need to be methodical with your approach, not cut corners with substandard parts (I've been in the same boat, made the same mistake and learned the hard way), and make sure you use a torquewrench on the bolts.
Do not think once the gaskets are changed the job's done - you need to entirely clean out the crankcase breather system also, as per the maintenance guide on here.
Good luck with the repair.....
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Thanks for all your advice! :y
Can some tell how much the total cost of all the required gaskets would be? :y
As discussed in PM, trade price for
*Camcover gaskets, both sides
*O rings - you only need 16, but at 15p each I get a couple of extras in case I lose one
*Sealing compound
is £67.48 including VAT.
I still have the reciept here for when I bought the set for this job...
Part numbers are -
seal rings, 90411826
compound, 90485251
Gaskets 90511451
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Thanks for all your advice! :y
Can some tell how much the total cost of all the required gaskets would be? :y
£79-60 inc Vat with TC. Assumming you do not buy the lower head mounting inlet gaskets but includes TOP inlet O-rings. :y
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Overtightening the bolts to try and "cure" a leak is something many people try and is never sucesfull. Due to the application of rubber gaskets the torque needed is extremely low, so tightening has no benefits.
So now, before you even think about fixing the leak, you need to fix this snapped bolt, or you are fighting a losing battle. It will never seal properly with a bolt missing.
You MAY be able to get the bolt out, but depends entirely on how much thread left there is. Best to get as much access as possible by removing the camcover. If you're lucky, you'll be able to get something on the bolt and wind it out.
If you're unlucky, it will have snapped of flush with the camshaft bearing shell. If this has happened you'll need to remove the bearing shell (in oder to stop swarf entering the hydraulic lifters and the engine) and get the thread in the shell drilled/tapped (I'm not sure helicoils go that low, but I could well be wrong)
Once that's fixed, you need to replace the gaskets. If you don't use hand tools often and don't have a "calibrated" hand, you need to use a torque wrench to get an even and consistent torque on all the bolts. If you don't, the job wasn't worth doing because it will leak again soon.
As discussed already you need to stay away from ebay gasket kits for camcovers - they may be a third of the price, but you'll be replacing them every few weeks (yes, pattern camcover gaskets are that bad)
The answer to this question is YES you can do this job, and you can do it yourself, but you need to be methodical with your approach, not cut corners with substandard parts (I've been in the same boat, made the same mistake and learned the hard way), and make sure you use a torquewrench on the bolts.
Do not think once the gaskets are changed the job's done - you need to entirely clean out the crankcase breather system also, as per the maintenance guide on here.
Good luck with the repair.....
Thanks very much James for your expert advice. :y
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Overtightening the bolts to try and "cure" a leak is something many people try and is never sucesfull. Due to the application of rubber gaskets the torque needed is extremely low, so tightening has no benefits.
So now, before you even think about fixing the leak, you need to fix this snapped bolt, or you are fighting a losing battle. It will never seal properly with a bolt missing.
You MAY be able to get the bolt out, but depends entirely on how much thread left there is. Best to get as much access as possible by removing the camcover. If you're lucky, you'll be able to get something on the bolt and wind it out.
If you're unlucky, it will have snapped of flush with the camshaft bearing shell. If this has happened you'll need to remove the bearing shell (in oder to stop swarf entering the hydraulic lifters and the engine) and get the thread in the shell drilled/tapped (I'm not sure helicoils go that low, but I could well be wrong)
Once that's fixed, you need to replace the gaskets. If you don't use hand tools often and don't have a "calibrated" hand, you need to use a torque wrench to get an even and consistent torque on all the bolts. If you don't, the job wasn't worth doing because it will leak again soon.
As discussed already you need to stay away from ebay gasket kits for camcovers - they may be a third of the price, but you'll be replacing them every few weeks (yes, pattern camcover gaskets are that bad)
The answer to this question is YES you can do this job, and you can do it yourself, but you need to be methodical with your approach, not cut corners with substandard parts (I've been in the same boat, made the same mistake and learned the hard way), and make sure you use a torquewrench on the bolts.
Do not think once the gaskets are changed the job's done - you need to entirely clean out the crankcase breather system also, as per the maintenance guide on here.
Good luck with the repair.....
Just to add to my post above -
When you remove the bearing shell - it's imperative to remember that, because it's line-bored to the specific engine at manufacture, you need to
1) ensure you fit it the same way it came off - same direction
2) Tighten to 8nm only, using a torquewrence.
It's not too likely and extreme, but incorrectly positioned shells could cause camshaft damage.. .
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I´m really feeling the pinch with this credit crunch and everything so even buying the gaskets is a problem.
Just got an electricity for 202 quid and expect the gas bill to be more.
My landlord said that if I don´t pay off some rent arrears then they will send a notice seeking possesion.
Sorry just needed a moan
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do you know roughly how long this takes to do, for a first timer. Thanks
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Can someone tell me which are the essential bits to buy and how much they cost without a tc? Thanks! :y
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Can someone tell me which are the essential bits to buy and how much they cost without a tc? Thanks! :y
The essential bits that to do this job properly on your 2.5V6 Kate is
Cam Cover Gaskets x2 Vx No. 090511451 56.70 ex. Vat
Small O-ring seals x16 Vx No 090411826 2.40 "
Sealing Compound Vx No 090485251 3.64 "
Plenium/Intake O-rings Vx No 009118135 11.80 "
Total 74.54 "
87.58 Inc Vat
You may get away with not needing the:
Plenium/Intake O-rings Vx No 009118135 11.80 ex. Vat
(re-use existing) - 13.87 Inc. Vat
Thus, with no Trade Discount cheapest Total 73.71 Inc Vat
ALL PRICES CORRECT AT CAFFYN'S ASHFORD ON 14/10/08
Kate, as for the trade discount you just may be able to get some if you get talking to the parts department nicely, as I get trade discount even if a part does not come under Trade Card discount lists. Worth a try. :D ;)
Best of luck by the way during these troubling times for you.......I just wish I lived a lot closer to be able to help you!! :'( :'(
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do you know roughly how long this takes to do, for a first timer. Thanks
I started at about 11am and finished by 4.30pm. I took ages over everything though.
I reckon I could half that now. Just getting familiar with the way everything comes apart and goes back together makes a massive difference. I'm sure others on the forum would be counting time in minutes and not hours.
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do you know roughly how long this takes to do, for a first timer. Thanks
I started at about 11am and finished by 4.30pm. I took ages over everything though.
I reckon I could half that now. Just getting familiar with the way everything comes apart and goes back together makes a massive difference. I'm sure others on the forum would be counting time in minutes and not hours.
You are right! Third time of dismantling everything I did it in 1.5 hours; first time was four hours. :D :D ;)
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Can someone tell me which are the essential bits to buy and how much they cost without a tc? Thanks! :y
I think there is someone on the forum who supplies parts at trade club prices (postage would be minimal for this stuff). Alternatively its worth a call to Autovaux in Wakefield. They DO supply GM gaskets but you need to be clear that is what you want and they will give a discount (5-10%) to OOF.
Good luck
Ian
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Well thanks very much for all your advice. :y
I think I'll stop using the car for now and save up the money for the gaskets.
Still not sure about doing it myself though! It does look really complicated! :o
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Give AndyC a quick PM .. he'll get you parts at TC prices for sure ... good lad all round .. :)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=andyc
First time I did the job ... 6.5 hours .. well I had to do the passenger side one twice ... :( (damned cable tray)
Second time ... 3 hours ... :)
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k, I'm going to do mine this weekend and photograph it all step by step
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Hi Kate
The part nuber for the broken bolt is 11093871. I have a spare one because I did the same thing 'cos the torque wrench was faulty.
I got the broken bolt out with a screw extractor. I used a centre punch on the top of the bolt to stop the drill bit slipping, then drilled a small hole and used the extractor. It was not very hard because the bolt is not very tight once the head is broken off. Took about 10 minutes to do.
Which side is it needs doing? The driver's side is dead easy to do.
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Actually, just remembered I am going to do camcovers for one of the members tomorrow. Would it help if I took photos to go with the maintanence guide?
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Thanks for all the advice again! :y
Extra photos would be a big help because I don't understand most of the instructions in the how to.
It really sounds like a big job to do. I've seen the bits dismantled at the cambelt party and it did look difficult for a novice.
All your advice is much appreciated! :y
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Give AndyC a quick PM .. he'll get you parts at TC prices for sure ... good lad all round .. :)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=andyc
First time I did the job ... 6.5 hours .. well I had to do the passenger side one twice ... :( (darned cable tray)
Second time ... 3 hours ... :)
:o :o :o
First time i did mine on the 4pot took me about an hour, and thats including putting it all together, realising it was not quite sealed at the back, and stripping it down again!
Soooo glad i have a 4 pot :D ;D
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I got a quote from the Vauxhall dealer in Sunderland.
They said I would have to pay for new covers as well as the gaskets as they don't sell them seperately.
The price quoted was £373! :o
rubbish..............i got the gaskets couple of weeks ago from vx dealer; no way you have to buy the covers as well
More than the mig cost! :o
Absolute bollxxks!!
Vx Part number 090511451 for 2.5 V6 :y You need two at £25.71 +VAT with a TC. :y
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did this last night, and would safely say I'd not want to do it again. Started at 5.30 and finished at 2am. Two of us doing it. The spark plugs were actually submerged in oil so glad I did it. Just got to work out now if the engine management light is suppose to stay on until you start the car.
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did this last night, and would safely say I'd not want to do it again. Started at 5.30 and finished at 2am. Two of us doing it.
you are certainly not giving Kate much confidence!! :P
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did this last night, and would safely say I'd not want to do it again. Started at 5.30 and finished at 2am. Two of us doing it. The spark plugs were actually submerged in oil so glad I did it. Just got to work out now if the engine management light is suppose to stay on until you start the car.
2 - 3 hours at most on V6. what on earh did you encounter to take that long. I know its a fiddly job. all i can say is perserverance is paramount and the end result is worth all the time in the world knowing its done properly. eml will light until car started which is correct. only reason eml might be on after starting is you have forgotten to connect a sensor or caught a sensor wire when putting everything back together, unless i'm missing something.
kate crack on it will be worth it in the end
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have to say the V6 ones are quite a bit harder than the 2.2, mainly cause of all the cr@p in the way.
Although not technically difficult, its hard work and a bit of a slog for the novice.
Best advice is just take your time and don't rush, yes people here will say its a 3 hour job or such like.
But for a novice i would budget a whole day per side when taking your time!
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have to say the V6 ones are quite a bit harder than the 2.2, mainly cause of all the cr@p in the way.
Although not technically difficult, its hard work and a bit of a slog for the novice.
Best advice is just take your time and don't rush, yes people here will say its a 3 hour job or such like.
But for a novice i would budget a whole day per side when taking your time!
totally agree with your response. can go either way. all goes nice and easy or can be a right pain in the harris. still worth doing yourself though. :y
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have to say the V6 ones are quite a bit harder than the 2.2, mainly cause of all the cr@p in the way.
Although not technically difficult, its hard work and a bit of a slog for the novice.
Best advice is just take your time and don't rush, yes people here will say its a 3 hour job or such like.
But for a novice i would budget a whole day per side when taking your time!
totally agree with your response. can go either way. all goes nice and easy or can be a right pain in the harris. still worth doing yourself though. :y
Yup, its a good confidence booster. Satisfiing too, did mine last weekend, along with a oil change and a tank full of BP ulitmate, always feels better when its been serviced yourself!
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To get inside of your car is the best. Just make sure that you don't forget anything. I forgot a bolt to add and had to brake down again to pop it in and hook up all the wires! My first change took awhile (5 hours w/ a lunch break) and second like 2 hours tops.
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have to say the V6 ones are quite a bit harder than the 2.2, mainly cause of all the cr@p in the way.
Although not technically difficult, its hard work and a bit of a slog for the novice.
Best advice is just take your time and don't rush, yes people here will say its a 3 hour job or such like.
But for a novice i would budget a whole day per side when taking your time!
You dont know the meaning of the words! :y :y ;D ;D
I find it easy....couple of hours tops
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well just been out to start the car - and she started!! yay...
only downside was it now doesn't hold it's rev's. I have to hold the accelerator down.. Left for about 2 minutes and along came the smoke - i beleive this is from where it filled up the spark plug's etc, and it's just burning it off.. had a check and no leaks.
Started it up again and the rev's died... held the accelerator for about 5-8 minutes and let go and although slightly rought, it idles..
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If you hold the gas down and it won't r ev hard, check the air intake beween the ducting and the ICV is intact!
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did this last night, and would safely say I'd not want to do it again. Started at 5.30 and finished at 2am. Two of us doing it. The spark plugs were actually submerged in oil so glad I did it. Just got to work out now if the engine management light is suppose to stay on until you start the car.
It just sounds so scarey. I think I'll just end up with a mig shell and a pile of bits. :o ;D
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My main issue was light and spent a lot of time cleaning up the cover after taking of off. It is fiddly but we took our time. Give it a go, worst comes to worse and you think it's too hard just put it back together again.
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k, I'm going to do mine this weekend and photograph it all step by step
That will be good, I got as far as taking the plenum off and then got stuck/unsure, mind you - I'm no mechanic! :y
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Mine was worse due to LPG pipework.
One bit of advice reserve a weekend.
Take your time and do not rush.
Do one side at a time, and start on the drivers side
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Well thanks for all the advice but it all sounds very difficult. :y
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Are you still using the car Kate?
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Well thanks for all the advice but it all sounds very difficult. :y
If you have worked on other cars you will not find this that difficult, just fiddly and awkward as I have stated before. :y :y
If you have not worked on the engines of other cars, let alone done any other mechanical work, you do need to prepare yourself carefully, making sure you understand the advice given on this thread and the Guidelines, along with having a comprehensive tool kit. :y :y
Any woman can do it, but one things for sure; you must have confidence and patience! ;) If you are that unsure about doing it; don't! 8-) 8-)
I have always worked on the basis of "if in doubt leave it out" or rather get more knowledge first! :D ;)
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have to say the V6 ones are quite a bit harder than the 2.2, mainly cause of all the cr@p in the way.
Although not technically difficult, its hard work and a bit of a slog for the novice.
Best advice is just take your time and don't rush, yes people here will say its a 3 hour job or such like.
But for a novice i would budget a whole day per side when taking your time!
You dont know the meaning of the words! :y :y ;D ;D
I find it easy....couple of hours tops
Remember folks, what ever time he claims, double it! At least! ;)
Us normal people with no previous car experience, takes us a bit longer!
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Are you still using the car Kate?
No I´m not using it James. I don´t want any of those problems you mentioned. Hope I haven´t got them already!
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I forgot to tell you all what happened the other day.
I went to the scrapyard to get a new battery for my daughters car. By the time I got there the smoke was pretty bad so I thought i'd put a cloth in to soak the oil up a bit.
When I got home I went to take the cloth out and it caught fire in my had - it was a right blaze! :o :o :o ;D
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I forgot to tell you all what happened the other day.
I went to the scrapyard to get a new battery for my daughters car. By the time I got there the smoke was pretty bad so I thought i'd put a cloth in to soak the oil up a bit.
When I got home I went to take the cloth out and it caught fire in my had - it was a right blaze! :o :o :o ;D
Yep Kate, you have got to be very careful when hot oil is "loose" around very hot engine components!! :o :o ;) ;)
Just proves you must sought your car out before you drive it many more miles, if any!! ::) ::) You could lose your car and more! :o :o
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I forgot to tell you all what happened the other day.
I went to the scrapyard to get a new battery for my daughters car. By the time I got there the smoke was pretty bad so I thought i'd put a cloth in to soak the oil up a bit.
When I got home I went to take the cloth out and it caught fire in my had - it was a right blaze! :o :o :o ;D
Yep Kate, you have got to be very careful when hot oil is "loose" around very hot engine components!! :o :o ;) ;)
Just proves you must sought your car out before you drive it many more miles, if any!! ::) ::) You could lose your car and more! :o :o
Yes thanks Lizzie it was daft of me. :o