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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: SmiffyMan on 04 November 2008, 08:45:28
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Driving home from work... my MV6 Auto just cut out on me after about 20 mins driving. It won't turn over, cam belt is ok. Rev counter not moving. Not even trying to fire. Plenty of fuel etc. AA took four hours to respond in which time I caught a taxi home. Winkers!!
Any thoughts... can I access fault codes or anything? Cheers SmiffyMan (Worthing)
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Driving home from work... my MV6 Auto just cut out on me after about 20 mins driving. It won't turn over, cam belt is ok. Rev counter not moving. Not even trying to fire. Plenty of fuel etc. AA took four hours to respond in which time I caught a taxi home. Winkers!!
Any thoughts... can I access fault codes or anything? Cheers SmiffyMan (Worthing)
Is the battery ok? Are your lights working? :-?
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when you say it doesnt turn over do you mean that the starter is not operating or its not firing?,
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Worth doing the Paperclip test mate to see if any fault codes have been stored.
Like said above is the car not turning over, or not firing?
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Driving home from work... my MV6 Auto just cut out on me after about 20 mins driving. It won't turn over, cam belt is ok. Rev counter not moving. Not even trying to fire. Plenty of fuel etc. AA took four hours to respond in which time I caught a taxi home. Winkers!!
Any thoughts... can I access fault codes or anything? Cheers SmiffyMan (Worthing)
Is the battery ok? Are your lights working? :-?
I ask this question, which some may think is a stupid one from a woman, so should be ignored, BUT this is asked, as always, from experience. ::) ::) ::)
My 1996 3.0 Elite would not turn over, let alone fire, but all the lights were fine as there was no problem with the battery.
This was a an important clue to the problem, which to start with fooled the recovery AA engineer, which was the a/c compressor had failed and was stopping the engine from being turned over! ::) ::) ::) ;)
Just a thought that's all! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Sorry.. not clear.. my stupid early morning Brain!!. The engine turns over fine, plenty of battery life etc. It seems that there is no spark.. the engine has compression so cam belt ok. Absolutely no signs that indicate to me what the problem is. I have had oil leakinging onto manifold recently - drivers side, usual problem, but wonder if the electrics have been affected somehow? Any suggestions will all be greatfully accepted.
Cheers
Ian
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Sorry.. not clear.. my stupid early morning Brain!!. The engine turns over fine, plenty of battery life etc. It seems that there is no spark.. the engine has compression so cam belt ok. Absolutely no signs that indicate to me what the problem is. I have had oil leakinging onto manifold recently - drivers side, usual problem, but wonder if the electrics have been affected somehow? Any suggestions will all be greatfully accepted.
Cheers
Ian
Ah that's clearer thanks! :D :D ;)
Given that you are losing oil, is there any oil in the plug wells? :-?
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crank sensor
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More than likely your crank Sensor mate like already said, if you do the Paperclip test/ Pedal test you will confirm it with the fault reading :y
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Almost certainly crank shaft sensor...paperclip test will confirm with a code 19...
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Thanks for feedback - I have just been to the car and guess what - started first time. I am reluctant to drive if far though (You dont'say!! :-?)
Because of the oil leak from the rear of the drivers side rocker housing, I know it is possible for the chambers to be filled with oil (I'll check those tomorrow and get sucking on a piece of tube) - is there any electrics that may be affected by this - I would hate to think of a loom or something getting roasted in hot engine oil - any thoughts. I have'nt done the paper clip test yet but may give it go tomorrow.
Cheers all
Ian
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Typical symptoms of crank sensor on way out - replace asap or it will let go & you will be stuck!!
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Thanks for feedback - I have just been to the car and guess what - started first time. I am reluctant to drive if far though (You dont'say!! :-?)
Because of the oil leak from the rear of the drivers side rocker housing, I know it is possible for the chambers to be filled with oil (I'll check those tomorrow and get sucking on a piece of tube) - is there any electrics that may be affected by this - I would hate to think of a loom or something getting roasted in hot engine oil - any thoughts. I have'nt done the paper clip test yet but may give it go tomorrow.
Cheers all
Ian
Typical crank sensor symptoms. Oil in plug wells will cook your plugs and leads and possibly over load the dis pac. Expect miss fires when oil removed/cam covers fixed. Clean the breathers when you do the cam cover gaskits or your wasting your time. But you know that..?
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OK... I'ts done it again. Won't start. Broke my back pushing it up the road! So if I get a Crank sensor- how much am I looking at from my friendly local Vauxhall dealer and... what sort of time are we looking at to do the job. I'm pretty handy with a Stanley Hammer and a B&Q set of Fathers-Day-Present screwdivers complete with plastic wall hanger. Seriously- any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Ian
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Crank sensor is a very quick job, just one bolt, hardest part is locating it, easier if you jack the front end up.
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Cost me £145 one year ago at main dealers but took them a week to diagnose(Their diagnostic was to just keep car untill it would'nt start one day) Crank sensor went again 2 weeks ago. Did a paperclip test and code 19 came up. Did it myself this time wih guide on this forum, not a bad job at all if you remove the wipers and scuttle cover. Took a couple of hours in the dark on driveway to change. Re-routed away from exhaust and oilpipes.So Keeping fingers crossed now as this is the third sensor. Noticed oil leaking down the back of engine near sensor so guess cam cover gaskets need doing. Had them done by garage about 18 months ago but no ideal if breathers were cleaned Am going to do it myself this time.
James the Glos mobile mechanic has just done Timing belt for me. Can thoroughly recommend him. He is first class on these cars.
Rod
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Cost me £145 one year ago at main dealers but took them a week to diagnose(Their diagnostic was to just keep car untill it would'nt start one day) Crank sensor went again 2 weeks ago. Did a paperclip test and code 19 came up. Did it myself this time wih guide on this forum, not a bad job at all if you remove the wipers and scuttle cover. Took a couple of hours in the dark on driveway to change. Re-routed away from exhaust and oilpipes.So Keeping fingers crossed now as this is the third sensor. Noticed oil leaking down the back of engine near sensor so guess cam cover gaskets need doing. Had them done by garage about 18 months ago but no ideal if breathers were cleaned Am going to do it myself this time.
James the Glos mobile mechanic has just done Timing belt for me. Can thoroughly recommend him. He is first class on these cars.
Rod
You didn't change it from underneath with the car jacked up? :o :o
As it is under/to the side of the oil filter I find it easier to approach from underneath, but there again any excuss for me to crawl underneath my car........... ::) ::) ::) ;)
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I must admit I prefer it with the front jacked up and approach it from under-neath. ;)
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Have to admit i had it jacked up as well. And i wasn't sure i could get at the the connector at the back of engine without scuttle cover off, as it looked pretty tight in there to me. You live and learn don't you. :)