LPG conversion - no more economy, but cheaper fuel
As stated it's the town driving that "nails" the V6 economy careful cruising on a motorway run at 65 to 70 mph has returned over 40 mpg for me :)
QuoteLPG conversion - no more economy, but cheaper fuel
No boot! ::) ::) ::)
QuoteQuoteLPG conversion - no more economy, but cheaper fuel
No boot! ::) ::) ::)
I think cutting the boot off will lighten the car, but a bit drastic don't yer think :o ::) :D.
Follow Chris's advice above^ it is good.
Personally I too have a 4 or 5 mile commute to work and I either cycle or drive the PUG 306 D-Turbo to and from work. The Omega is for weekend runs out of town or when I have to go further afield for work reasons.
The Pug is a simpler, and slightly cheaper, compromise than LPG for me and it is great for chucking the bikes in the boot with the seats down too.
As for LPG, personally I like my boot-space (not enough to drive ahearseestate though ;D), but I am quite seriously considering it now having seen Kevin Wood's engine bay on his 3.2 like mine.
I need to see the figures and how they stack up though before I commit to the money for an LPG system. I'd also have to factor in the costs of paying someone to fit it; I would only really trust a fellow OOF member anyway to do the job. I'm trying to work on Kevin to see if he would do mine. ::)
Horses for courses buddy. :y
...... Plus I'm very light footed.
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Follow Chris's advice above^ it is good.
Personally I too have a 4 or 5 mile commute to work and I either cycle or drive the PUG 306 D-Turbo to and from work. The Omega is for weekend runs out of town or when I have to go further afield for work reasons.
The Pug is a simpler, and slightly cheaper, compromise than LPG for me and it is great for chucking the bikes in the boot with the seats down too.
As for LPG, personally I like my boot-space (not enough to drive ahearseestate though ;D), but I am quite seriously considering it now having seen Kevin Wood's engine bay on his 3.2 like mine.
I need to see the figures and how they stack up though before I commit to the money for an LPG system. I'd also have to factor in the costs of paying someone to fit it; I would only really trust a fellow OOF member anyway to do the job. I'm trying to work on Kevin to see if he would do mine. ::)
Horses for courses buddy. :y
3 weeks ago i was getting 18-20mpg just driving about locally, since ive changed my ht leads it seems to have gone downhill. was showing 13.6 earlier this morning.
QuoteFollow Chris's advice above^ it is good.
Personally I too have a 4 or 5 mile commute to work and I either cycle or drive the PUG 306 D-Turbo to and from work. The Omega is for weekend runs out of town or when I have to go further afield for work reasons.
The Pug is a simpler, and slightly cheaper, compromise than LPG for me and it is great for chucking the bikes in the boot with the seats down too.
As for LPG, personally I like my boot-space (not enough to drive ahearseestate though ;D), but I am quite seriously considering it now having seen Kevin Wood's engine bay on his 3.2 like mine.
I need to see the figures and how they stack up though before I commit to the money for an LPG system. I'd also have to factor in the costs of paying someone to fit it; I would only really trust a fellow OOF member anyway to do the job. I'm trying to work on Kevin to see if he would do mine. ::)
Horses for courses buddy. :y
e-mail sent :)
Cost Days so far Months so far CALCULATED (on mileage from your sheet) Miles p/annum (calc.) Rate of payback (years) Rate of payback (Months) Date of payback Date from now ESTIMATED (on mileage p/annum entered) Miles p/annum (est.) Rate of payback (years) Rate of payback (Months) Date of payback Date from now [td] Actual £2,173.80 171 5.62 15,388 1.48 17.80 09/11/2009 04/05/2010 10,000 2.28 27.39 10/10/2010 20/02/2011 [td] Cheap £1,000.00 171 5.62 15,388 0.68 8.19 21/01/2009 16/07/2009 10,000 1.05 12.60 17/07/2009 27/11/2009 | [/td][/td][/td]
Yup the 2173.80 was the total cost of having the job done, the analysis figures on the bottom of page 2 are consolidated figures anyway, calculations are continuous :) as the B/F figures from page 2 row 4 are included in row 35 - which is where the analysis figures are sourced from .. :)
The figures right now are very much like the figures were whilst in France .. as petrol has dropped and - round here - LPG has not :( but still saving around 6 pence / mile
Never got a reply e-mail BTW .. :(
My motor must be buggered then. I do 20 mile each way to work at a steady 65 and only getting at best 20 mpg. Is this normal and any info would be appreciated.Check multi rams, vac system from brake servo. They even out the torque curve and if not working make you press the pedal harder to get the car to accelerate. Worth a look. A tech2 can activate remotely and its more obvious if they are working.
my 3.0 mv6 manual in 2 years of ownership has never done less than 26 mpg on the tank and i check each time i fill it up ,my work is 13 miles of poor b road driving each way and the rest is just mixed b roads some town driving almost never motorway and i think that is truly excellent considering the car, and even in scotland this summer with roofbox camping tralier and car full it done 28-29 mpg over 1200 odd miles :y athough saying that i don,t really drive that fast but it does get tramped to the red line prety often ;D it rarely puts the red petrol light on before 380- 400 milesNever done less than 26 mpg?... Nah, MUST be something wrong with it, defo! ;D
An auto then .... like they should all have! ;) ;) :y :y
Quoteyea thats the lazy man,s gear box ;D never had one myself and never will if i can help it ,that was the reason that i had to get a cop car as you well no proper gearboxes are hard to find in 3.0-3.2 omega,s so it was cop car or no car for me :y
An auto then .... like they should all have! ;) ;) :y :y
I use my car mostly on combined runs with some town driving, and consistently get 30+ mpg, with my 3.0 V6 Auto Estate.If you are getting a consistent 30mpg from 3.0 auto, you would get mega miles from a chipped tractor manual if you drove it the same Miss Daisy way
With unleaded at 91ppl here, and diesel 15p more at 106ppl, it makes no sense whatsoever to get an oil burner.
For me, petrol is just over £4 a gallon, to which I get 30 miles. That's less than 13p per mile, so I'm more than happy with that, given car size, engine size, and autobox.
If fuel economy over short distances is anything of a concern for you, then I'd probably suggest a V6 Omega probably isn't the best choice of vehicle in that department ::)
In terms of incresing MPG, my biggest bit of advice is make sure it's getting up to temp quickly :y
If you are getting a consistent 30mpg from 3.0 auto, you would get mega miles from a chipped tractor manual if you drove it the same Miss Daisy way
Oi >:(QuoteIf you are getting a consistent 30mpg from 3.0 auto, you would get mega miles from a chipped tractor manual if you drove it the same Miss Daisy way
.. and probably won't miss the power. So, a pair of ear defenders on your Christmas list and you're sorted. ;)
Kevin
MID needs 2 inputs to work out MPG: Distance covered and fuel used.
Distance comes from the same signal from the ABS ECU that the speedo uses so it should be reasonably accurate.
Fuel used comes from a signal from the ECU which indicates how much fuel it thinks it's injecting. This is not measured, but depends on the (known) flow rate of the injectors and the duration for which they are open. If the flow rate of the injectors is not as it should be or fuel is leaking out, etc. the MPG reading will be inaccurate.
The above applies equally to petrol and diesel engines. I find the MID is within 1 or 2 MPG.
Kevin
As Kevin Wood says above, should be accurate, as its based on how much ecu thinks its putting in, and (on diesel) feedback from injector 4.QuoteMID needs 2 inputs to work out MPG: Distance covered and fuel used.
Distance comes from the same signal from the ABS ECU that the speedo uses so it should be reasonably accurate.
Fuel used comes from a signal from the ECU which indicates how much fuel it thinks it's injecting. This is not measured, but depends on the (known) flow rate of the injectors and the duration for which they are open. If the flow rate of the injectors is not as it should be or fuel is leaking out, etc. the MPG reading will be inaccurate.
The above applies equally to petrol and diesel engines. I find the MID is within 1 or 2 MPG.
Kevin
So do you think having changed the chip on the TD would have messed the figures up on mine or should it still be reasonably accurate. In other words are the MID readings correct.
I get roughly around 10 mpg more now than I was getting pre chipped. The chip was obtained and fitted by our good friends here on the forum, so others have the same fitment on their TD's.
Mick