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Title: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 20:03:37
Ive bought a 2.5 CDX V6 Manual V plate, it has a couple of issues so thought i would come here for some advise, so any would be greatfully appreciated.

1. Power steering, at low revs there is basically no power steering once above 1,000 rpm it works... any ideas?

2. The individual heat controls are not illuminated? again any ideas?

3. Stereo, it has steering wheel controls and a multi changer in the boot but the head unit is also a cd? when i turn it on the display comes up as safe? and the head unit makes funny noises the steering controls dont seem to do anything? any help again be appreciated

Drives like a dream, and im impressed..! :-)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 20:08:02
1...not sure

2...sounds like the bulbs have gone behind it...does it have climate control??

3...doesnt sound right, whats the head unit, presumably a CDC2 in the boot...cant imagine it would be normal to have a CD head unit and a CD changer unit in the boot...
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2008, 20:13:13
1) Tired PAS pump - solution, replace.
2) Replace bulbs - guide in Maint Guides section
3) Someone has changed the HU. HU needs code entry.
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 20:14:36
Im new to this...  so bear with me...

Climate control??? it has seperate heater controls for left and right another in the middle for speed and a forth for where you want the wind to go basically..  lol

Stereo looks like a cdr 500 from what ive seen on ebay, cant see it having a single cd in the front and a multi changer in the boot, my old cdx had radio tape infront changer in the back, i expected the same.
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 20:14:53
What head unit is meant to be in a V reg CDX TB??
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: ngrainqey on 05 December 2008, 20:15:33
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Ive bought a 2.5 CDX V6 Manual V plate, it has a couple of issues so thought i would come here for some advise, so any would be greatfully appreciated.

1. Power steering, at low revs there is basically no power steering once above 1,000 rpm it works... any ideas?

2. The individual heat controls are not illuminated? again any ideas?

3. Stereo, it has steering wheel controls and a multi changer in the boot but the head unit is also a cd? when i turn it on the display comes up as safe? and the head unit makes funny noises the steering controls dont seem to do anything? any help again be appreciated

Drives like a dream, and im impressed..! :-)

1. could be low steering pump reservoir level!

2.could be the bulbs (have a few that work)

3. what chris says basically... you shouldnt have a cd head unit afaik with the cd changer at all.. should be a cassette head like the ccrt700 or the sc804 (like i have) lol!

sorry tb.. egnore my post lol...*bows down* lol
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 20:19:00
They stopped putting the SC804 in Omegas after about 96-97 Alex lol

Maybe a CCR600?? Unless they were upgraded too in the V reg ones...
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: ngrainqey on 05 December 2008, 20:19:54
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They stopped putting the SC804 in Omegas after about 96-97 Alex lol

Maybe a CCR600?? Unless they were upgraded too in the V reg ones...

lol... ok chris i stand corrected :P i was using it as an example tbh
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 20:21:15
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Im new to this...  so bear with me...

Climate control??? it has seperate heater controls for left and right another in the middle for speed and a forth for where you want the wind to go basically..  lol

Stereo looks like a cdr 500 from what ive seen on ebay, cant see it having a single cd in the front and a multi changer in the boot, my old cdx had radio tape infront changer in the back, i expected the same.

Does it have digital controls or manual ones?? Digital will be climate...

Head unit certainly isnt right...but should be easy enough to replace for the right one :)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 20:24:00
the heater controls are all digital,

hadnt thought of pas level.. :-( now i feel thick...

Just be nice to have a head unit that worked in conjunction with the cd changer and the steering controls amazing car for the money
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 21:12:05
Easy enough to replace the bulbs so dont worry...

Depending upon which head unit you should have I may well have one here with the code...
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 21:24:36
easy enough for someone to change the bulbs who knows there way round an omega.. for me not so good...

Head unit i just want one to control the multi changer and be controlled by the steering controls, long as it works im happy..

Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: ngrainqey on 05 December 2008, 21:27:52
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easy enough for someone to change the bulbs who knows there way round an omega.. for me not so good...

Head unit i just want one to control the multi changer and be controlled by the steering controls, long as it works im happy..


to get to the dash bulbs you take the dash off, even in the digital dial/adjusters setup it's very similar to with control knobs...
you need to take the ash tray out first to get it off (if my memory serves me right)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 21:31:26
take the dash off???? the whole dash??? urrggghhhhh :D scared already....
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 21:36:53
Dont worry Bob just the centre console bit that holds the climate controls in place lol

Removing the ashtray is 3 screws...remove the stereo (which it sounds like you need to do anyway so you can have the correct one in) and then tug on the correct metal bar that holds it all in place...a fairly thick square bar thats behind some of the wiring behind the stereo you pull it down (maybe with the aid of a screw driver) and the whole centre console pops out :)...but do NOT pull the thin metal round bar that runs across there cos its not the one you need and will dislodge! lol
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 21:43:45
thankyou!!!  ;D not so worried now will try that tommorow... any ideas on the stereo then?? and will check the power steering tommorow in daylight, if not possible source of a power steering pump if thats the problem, then ive a nice car......
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 21:47:43
I could do you a power steering pump too if needed but tbh I havent worked out how to get them off...perhaps I should have a read of Mr Haynes and see if its at all enlightening...

The S reg CDX I have here has a CCR600 stereo in it...not sure if its still the same on the V reg or not...do you have a phone built in?? Might be you need a CCRT700 unit...
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 21:53:34
Yeah i know the feeling about mr haynes, i had to put on facebook what book i last read and strangely it was a haynes manual, not going to know if i need a pump yet, but sounds like a fair chance :-(  

Looking at the CCR600 stereo its what i had in my old R plate CDX and as far as i know there is no phone built in, how would i know?? think CCR600 would do.. god its sounding like i know what im on about
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 21:56:52
If you dont have Bose and you shouldnt have as its not an elite then you will most likely need a CCR600 or a CCRT700...as its a later one it may be the latter...if its a CCR600 then I have one here :)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 22:01:48
no its not a bose system, its not an elite im assuming a CCR600 would work on the steering controls and run the multichanger??
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 22:08:51
Yes it would I'm sure...mine has steering wheel controls and a CDC2 and works fine with it...

Really depends I think on whether you have a facelift Omega or not...if it crept into the facelift era then you probably are meant to have a CCR2006...sounds unlikely though if it has a CDR500 in it currently as the facelift centre console is entirely different looking
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 22:13:15
no the facia is the same as my old R plate and different to my dads 52 plate (facelift car) its a standard DIN D or E size
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 22:19:23
Ok so should be CCR600 or if phone is built in CCRT700...

I would think its a CCR600 if you have a CDR500 plugged into it as I would imagine the wiring would be different for the CCRT700...

Anyway I have a CCR600 here if you want it :) Also have a CCR800 Bose head unit here with code but just checking if you can just plug this straight into a CCR600 slot and upgrade the rest of the bose system as and when, or not!!
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 22:23:26
this is a whole new world... lol will go on the experts advice, I do like my tunes though... :-) as i recall the original CCR600 sounded pretty good as it was... let me know a cost and thankyou very much for your help, will update regarding the power steering level
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 22:28:46
Yeah CCR600 sounds good to me :) I would imagine if you can just stick the CCR800 in so its Bose ready when you put in the rest then you may as well as it makes little to no difference to price :) I dont know the answer yet so we will see :)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: Bobthebuilder68 on 05 December 2008, 22:29:57
will leave it with the expert then and thankyou very much for your help
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2008, 22:45:26
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Yeah CCR600 sounds good to me :) I would imagine if you can just stick the CCR800 in so its Bose ready when you put in the rest then you may as well as it makes little to no difference to price :) I dont know the answer yet so we will see :)
no you can't ;)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2008, 22:46:33
bobthebuilder68 - for climate bulbs, see the guide in Maintenence Guides section about changing Prefacelift Climate bulbs - nice step bt step guide with pictures ;)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 22:49:21
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Yeah CCR600 sounds good to me :) I would imagine if you can just stick the CCR800 in so its Bose ready when you put in the rest then you may as well as it makes little to no difference to price :) I dont know the answer yet so we will see :)
no you can't ;)
You gotta put the whole Bose thing in in one go then TB? Whats needed for Bose upgrade from a CCR600 to CCR800 apart from head unit...door speakers, sub, amp...drivers footwell to rear wiring...owt else?
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2008, 22:50:36
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Yeah CCR600 sounds good to me :) I would imagine if you can just stick the CCR800 in so its Bose ready when you put in the rest then you may as well as it makes little to no difference to price :) I dont know the answer yet so we will see :)
no you can't ;)
You gotta put the whole Bose thing in in one go then TB? Whats needed for Bose upgrade from a CCR600 to CCR800 apart from head unit...door speakers, sub, amp...drivers footwell to rear wiring...owt else?
If saloon, the 2 shelf speakers, and rear shelf
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 05 December 2008, 22:53:31
Will the sub box from an estate still work ok mounted to the bottom of a saloon parcel shelf...with the relevant wiring of course :)
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2008, 22:59:27
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Will the sub box from an estate still work ok mounted to the bottom of a saloon parcel shelf...with the relevant wiring of course :)
Probably no so well.  For a saloon, I would stick to the 2 shelf speakers
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: benbrunt on 06 December 2008, 10:56:51
I was under the impression that 99 CDX and Elite had the CCRT700, you should be able to tell which from the MID next to the rev counter. If it has the space for the Phone signal and text message in the bottom right of the screen it should have the CCRT700 and may explain why the screen is in safe mode rather than having been decoded correctly.

You could also have a look at the CDC labels as the CCRT will only work with one specific unit that isn't compatible.

Hope this helps a bit!
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 December 2008, 11:01:38
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I was under the impression that 99 CDX and Elite had the CCRT700, you should be able to tell which from the MID next to the rev counter. If it has the space for the Phone signal and text message in the bottom right of the screen it should have the CCRT700 and may explain why the screen is in safe mode rather than having been decoded correctly.

You could also have a look at the CDC labels as the CCRT will only work with one specific unit that isn't compatible.

Hope this helps a bit!
I think if you plugged a non ccrt700 stereo into a ccrt700 mid, you would get no radio info at all (not even SAFE), as they talk different languages.
Title: Re: Omega 2.5 C6 CDX Woes.................. Any help.
Post by: MutantCav on 06 December 2008, 11:58:14
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I was under the impression that 99 CDX and Elite had the CCRT700, you should be able to tell which from the MID next to the rev counter. If it has the space for the Phone signal and text message in the bottom right of the screen it should have the CCRT700 and may explain why the screen is in safe mode rather than having been decoded correctly.

You could also have a look at the CDC labels as the CCRT will only work with one specific unit that isn't compatible.

Hope this helps a bit!
I think if you plugged a non ccrt700 stereo into a ccrt700 mid, you would get no radio info at all (not even SAFE), as they talk different languages.
Agreed more likely to have had a CCR600 in if CDR500 is working ok in its place...