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Title: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 16:16:12
Hi Folks,

Got my new miggy, and chuffed with it so far  :y

But, driving into work today, the Engine Management light came on (not the one with the spanner in the car, the one that looks like an engine).

Anyway, I pedal-tested it, and it's come up with the following codes:

1530 (something to do with the air-con relay, but the air-con works fine?)
0420 (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1) )
0430 (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 2) )

I've also noted that on the engine breather box (the black thing that says "Ecotec" on it on top of the engine), one of it's outlets that you connect the 4 hoses onto has been broken off at some point.  As you look at the top of it, from left-to-right, it's the 2nd one in from the left.  Is this likely to be contributing to this problem?

The car is a 2004 3.2 Manual.

Cheers


Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: Danny on 08 December 2008, 16:29:21
the 4 little hoses iirc are breather hoses, thus giving you an air leak?

await confirmation, i know as much about cars as i do about the moon!
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: johnnycboy on 08 December 2008, 16:29:56
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Hi Folks,

Got my new miggy, and chuffed with it so far  :y

But, driving into work today, the Engine Management light came on (not the one with the spanner in the car, the one that looks like an engine).

Anyway, I pedal-tested it, and it's come up with the following codes:

1530 (something to do with the air-con relay, but the air-con works fine?)
0420 (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1) )
0430 (Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 2) )

I've also noted that on the engine breather box (the black thing that says "Ecotec" on it on top of the engine), one of it's outlets that you connect the 4 hoses onto has been broken off at some point.  As you look at the top of it, from left-to-right, it's the 2nd one in from the left.  Is this likely to be contributing to this problem?

The car is a 2004 3.2 Manual.

Cheers




could well be due to drawing more air into the system.  someone with more knowledge will be along soon
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2008, 16:33:04
Though more than likely its a 2.6/3.2 with the dreaded pre-cat efficiency issue  :(
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 16:36:28
Thanks for the prompt reply folks  :y

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Though more than likely its a 2.6/3.2 with the dreaded pre-cat efficiency issue  :(

Why does this not fill me with confidence...  :o  :'(

What's involved in getting it sorted?
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: bob.dent on 08 December 2008, 16:39:07
I think you'll find it's a pretty common problem with the 3.0 and 3.2 V6's. Usually the pre-cats not being up to the job on these engines.
My EML has been on for months. I have it reset occassionally but it always comes back on again eventually. :(
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2008, 16:41:27
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I think you'll find it's a pretty common problem with the 3.0 and 3.2 V6's. Usually the pre-cats not being up to the job on these engines.
My EML has been on for months. I have it reset occassionally but it always comes back on again eventually. :(
Only the Motronic 3.1.1 cars (2.6 and 3.2) have precats.

I believe Albatross overcame it by moving the lamda sensors to be each side of the main cats, rather than precats.
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 16:42:35
How do I go about resetting it?  Is it something that I can do by disconnecting the battery for an hour?  Or does the ECU store them until it's reset by Tech2?
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: bob.dent on 08 December 2008, 16:44:14
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How do I go about resetting it?  Is it something that I can do by disconnecting the battery for an hour?  Or does the ECU store them until it's reset by Tech2?

Either a Tech2 or my garage have done it using a Bosch diagnostics system.
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2008, 16:45:10
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How do I go about resetting it?  Is it something that I can do by disconnecting the battery for an hour?  Or does the ECU store them until it's reset by Tech2?
A cheap obdii code reader will reset it, but it will come back.
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 16:50:50
Hmmmm...  >:(

Could it be that it's drawing in too much air because of the breather box being broken, so then it's throwing more petrol into the cylinders?

Or am I looking at having to move the lambda sensors (which I really don't like the sound of!  :o )
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: bob.dent on 08 December 2008, 16:59:02
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Hmmmm...  >:(

Could it be that it's drawing in too much air because of the breather box being broken, so then it's throwing more petrol into the cylinders?

Or am I looking at having to move the lambda sensors (which I really don't like the sound of!  :o )

I've just got used to having the light on all the time now. Not sure what I'm going to do long term - probably will have to get the sensors moved eventually.
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2008, 16:59:53
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Hmmmm...  >:(

Could it be that it's drawing in too much air because of the breather box being broken, so then it's throwing more petrol into the cylinders?

Or am I looking at having to move the lambda sensors (which I really don't like the sound of!  :o )
Fix the known issues, as that is always the best place to start.  But in this case, it is a well known issue :(
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 17:05:30
Okidoki - thanks again for all your help folks  :y

I'll try sorting the breather box first, and see if that helps...  Not holding by breath, but it needs replacing anyway.

Now, anybody selling a breather box for a 3.2???  ;D
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2008, 17:06:51
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Okidoki - thanks again for all your help folks  :y

I'll try sorting the breather box first, and see if that helps...  Not holding by breath, but it needs replacing anyway.

Now, anybody selling a breather box for a 3.2???  ;D
Same as all v6 I believe, nothing special about 3.2 one...
Title: Re: Engine Management light on...
Post by: damon80 on 08 December 2008, 19:33:13
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Okidoki - thanks again for all your help folks  :y

I'll try sorting the breather box first, and see if that helps...  Not holding by breath, but it needs replacing anyway.

Now, anybody selling a breather box for a 3.2???  ;D
Same as all v6 I believe, nothing special about 3.2 one...

Cheers for the heads-up on that TB - that should make the hunt much easier!  :y