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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 December 2008, 12:20:01
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Can you help please with a very simple (I hope!) problem.
This morning, after not using my car for two days, I clicked on my key fob.........nothing.........then I tried my second fob........once more nothing, no flashing lights and no reaction from the car locks. Everything dead! :o :o :o
I suspect my car battery has failed, so now I have to get into the car manually, which is where I need your help please........
tried to turn the key in the lock, and I just cannot turn it hard enough to action the lock! Then I had second thoughts, when looking at the drivers door should I turn the key to the left (anti-clockwise) or to the right (clockwise)? :-? :-?
Never had to use the key manually before, so I am feeling fairly stupid not knowing which way it turns, although I know from other posts that the lock can be very stiff (?) Indeed how much pressure can I safely put on the key, before it snaps?? :o :o :o :o!!! :-? :-?
Many thanks! ;)
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Clockwise. You won`t snap the key :y :)
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Turn to the right - very hard
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I bet.......some light has been left on....you know what women are like at leaving lights on!
Yp, clokwise and it is very stiff!
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I bet.......some light has been left on....you know what women are like at leaving lights on!
Yp, clokwise and it is very stiff!
Thanks greatly Rob, Martin and Mark!! :-* :-* :-* :-* ;)
As for the light.......I won't argue for once as you are propably right Mark, as we have so much to do!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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You will think key will break it will be that stiff, but it will unlock.
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depending on the state of the battery, the parking light could flatten it.
If you switch off the ignition, with the indicator to the left or right, it will turn on the parking light. Mother tunnie does it all the time >:(
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If you switch off the ignition, with the indicator to the left or right, it will turn on the parking light. Mother tunnie does it all the time >:(
I thought that later face lift cars had the parking ligt wired via the lights-on-buzzer .... :-/
My 73 Cortina had parking lights opperated via the indictor stalk :y
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You will think key will break it will be that stiff, but it will unlock.
Thanks TB, you are not kidding!! :o :o :o
I have just managed to break my spare fob whilst trying and now even pliars on the end (remains!) of the important bit still won't turn it! :( :(
The only good thing is I now know it is not the battery........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that bloody boot button on the facelift fob!! >:( >:(
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..........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::) .......
Oh well - look on the bright side! At least you'll be able to crawl througn to the front of the car & pop the bonnet. ;) :y :y :y
As I've said before, despite the theory .... there was no way my car was going to allow me to unlock it when my batter was that flat.
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get in through the boot then!
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You will think key will break it will be that stiff, but it will unlock.
Thanks TB, you are not kidding!! :o :o :o
I have just managed to break my spare fob whilst trying and now even pliars on the end (remains!) of the important bit still won't turn it! :( :(
The only good thing is I now know it is not the battery........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that bloody boot button on the facelift fob!! >:( >:(
Shi!!!
Never seen one break - and suffered plenty of flat batts myself!
I guess the fact I occasionally use the key in the door when I'm doing servicing helps keep my mechanism nice and free :-/
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..........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::) .......
Oh well - look on the bright side! At least you'll be able to crawl througn to the front of the car & pop the bonnet. ;) :y :y :y
As I've said before, despite the theory .... there was no way my car was going to allow me to unlock it when my batter was that flat.
The trouble is Andy and Danny the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
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The trouble is Andy the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
Bugger!!! :(
What about ....... a couple of trolly jacks under the rear of the sills to lift the rear wheels of the floor and wheel the whole lot forward a foot or two? :-/ :-/
See! That's what happens when you use your garage for putting your car in ..... most of the rest of us use them for storing sh1te in! ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
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..........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::) .......
Oh well - look on the bright side! At least you'll be able to crawl througn to the front of the car & pop the bonnet. ;) :y :y :y
As I've said before, despite the theory .... there was no way my car was going to allow me to unlock it when my batter was that flat.
The trouble is Andy and Danny the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
You need a 'tunnie' ;D
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
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The trouble is Andy the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
Bugger!!! :(
What about ....... a couple of trolly jacks under the rear of the sills to lift the rear wheels of the floor and wheel the whole lot forward a foot or two? :-/ :-/
See! That's what happens when you use your garage for putting your car in ..... most of the rest of us use them for storing sh1te in! ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
Great idea thanks Andy, but just one problem.............my one and only trolley jack is in the boot where I always keep it............bugger,bugger,bugger!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::);D ;D
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The trouble is Andy the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
Bugger!!! :(
What about ....... a couple of trolly jacks under the rear of the sills to lift the rear wheels of the floor and wheel the whole lot forward a foot or two? :-/ :-/
See! That's what happens when you use your garage for putting your car in ..... most of the rest of us use them for storing sh1te in! ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
Great idea thanks Andy, but just one problem.............my one and only trolley jack is in the boot where I always keep it............bugger,bugger,bugger!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::);D ;D
And the word of the day is?
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
Thanks, that's not a bad idea TB! :-* :-* :-* ;)
What I am going to do though in the first instance is take full advantage of my all singing and dancing, including 'home start' AA membership!!! I'll give them a problem for a change, as a poor defenceless woman; you see I do have that advantage!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If that fails, it will be down to me to do as you suggest!! ;) ;)
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.................bugger,bugger,bugger!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::);D ;D
You need a word that rhymes with .... Oh luck!!
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lube the lock up with white grease or what ever youve got, and try again. Its defo clockwise. Top of key to front of car.
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lube the lock up with white grease or what ever youve got, and try again. Its defo clockwise. Top of key to front of car.
Ok Chris thanks, will do and I will leave it overnight. :y :y
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
Dont the park fingers engage on the dif?
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.................bugger,bugger,bugger!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::);D ;D
You need a word that rhymes with .... Oh luck!!
Bet you used some four letter words Lizzie. ;D ;D ;D
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lube the lock up with white grease or what ever youve got, and try again. Its defo clockwise. Top of key to front of car.
Ok Chris thanks, will do and I will leave it overnight. :y :y
Maybe a light warming with a hair drier if its cold/frozen.
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.................bugger,bugger,bugger!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::);D ;D
You need a word that rhymes with .... Oh luck!!
Bet you used some four letter words Lizzie. ;D ;D ;D
Yes, and some that even I hadn't heard of Skruntie! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
Dont the park fingers engage on the dif?
nope, only in box...
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Lizzie - you're not trying - can't you borrow a small child and ram 'em in the boot?
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lube the lock up with white grease or what ever youve got, and try again. Its defo clockwise. Top of key to front of car.
Ok Chris thanks, will do and I will leave it overnight. :y :y
Well, after panicking that all three aerosol cans of WD40 are either in the boot, or stored against the garage wall that I cannot get to due to the car being there........bugger!..bugger!..bugger!!.....I remembers I had a can in the side pocket of the boot that I could just get to. ;D :y :y
So now the lock has been soaked with three minutes worth of WD40 spray! :D ;) ;)
I am hoping come the morning that will free it! ::) ::)
Thanks again for that idea Chris. :y :y :y
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Lizzie - you're not trying - can't you borrow a small child and ram 'em in the boot?
Well actually dbug I have spoken to my adopted grand daughter and asked her to bring her lovely four year old son over as "he may be useful" ::) ::) ;)
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You think there might be wate in the lock and hence why you have used Water Dispersant?
Lubricant would have been better!
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You think there might be wate in the lock and hence why you have used Water Dispersant?
Lubricant would have been better!
No Mark I didn't think there was water in the lock, just that it is stiff from not being used at all. ;)
I use WD40 for "unfreezing" everything, and it normally works!! ;D ;D ;) Is that wrong? :-? :-?
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You think there might be wate in the lock and hence why you have used Water Dispersant?
Lubricant would have been better!
No Mark I didn't think there was water in the lock, just that it is stiff from not being used at all. ;)
I use WD40 for "unfreezing" everything, and it normally works!! ;D ;D ;) Is that wrong? :-? :-?
O er missus ;) ;)
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You think there might be wate in the lock and hence why you have used Water Dispersant?
Lubricant would have been better!
No Mark I didn't think there was water in the lock, just that it is stiff from not being used at all. ;)
I use WD40 for "unfreezing" everything, and it normally works!! ;D ;D ;) Is that wrong? :-? :-?
O er missus ;) ;)
Yes, it used to work on my husband! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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You think there might be wate in the lock and hence why you have used Water Dispersant?
Lubricant would have been better!
No Mark I didn't think there was water in the lock, just that it is stiff from not being used at all. ;)
I use WD40 for "unfreezing" everything, and it normally works!! ;D ;D ;) Is that wrong? :-? :-?
O er missus ;) ;)
Yes, it used to work on my husband! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Nice one Lizzie ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
Slap him Lizzie, good and hard.
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
lol, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
:o :o :o ;D
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
lol, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Well as we all know, WD40 is NOT a lubricant....it needs penetrating fluid....to help it in.
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
lol, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Well as we all know, WD40 is NOT a lubricant....it needs penetrating fluid....to help it in.
How about KY Jelly Mark will that do the job?? I have some of that!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
lol, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Well as we all know, WD40 is NOT a lubricant....it needs penetrating fluid....to help it in.
How about KY Jelly Mark, I have some of that!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
It depends how stiff it is...you might need something a little more fluid. Its not unknown for Saliva to do the job
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I suspect it wants lubricant Lizzie....its probably a bit dry through lack of use.
lol, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Well as we all know, WD40 is NOT a lubricant....it needs penetrating fluid....to help it in.
How about KY Jelly Mark, I have some of that!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
It depends how stiff it is...you might need something a little more fluid. Its not unknown for Saliva to do the job
hehehehehehehehehehe!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Well....when you have a problem such as this then 'universal lubricant' is often very good.
Its important to apply it and then work it well to get it well penetrated into the internals
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Well....when you have a problem such as this then 'universal lubricant' is often very good.
Its important to apply it and then work it well to get it well penetrated into the internals
Come down to Kent Mark and show me, then you can cure the lock! 8-) 8-) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Well....when you have a problem such as this then 'universal lubricant' is often very good.
Its important to apply it and then work it well to get it well penetrated into the internals
Come down to Kent Mark and show me, then you can cure the lock! 8-) 8-) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
:o :o :o ;D
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I think you need to invest in some more suitable lubricants
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I think you need to invest in some more suitable lubricants
Have I not mentioned enough quality ones already? ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Hmmmm....KY and WD40.....having you tried mixing the two....is the KY still in date?
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
Dont the park fingers engage on the dif?
no it's only on the gearbox
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Hmmmm....KY and WD40.....having you tried mixing the two....is the KY still in date?
Yes it is Mark, but I have never mixed the two! ::) ::) ::);D ;D ;D
Must try that as it has to be wonderfull for freeing up seized parts whilst providing friction free movement so good for all moving parts! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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..........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::) .......
Oh well - look on the bright side! At least you'll be able to crawl througn to the front of the car & pop the bonnet. ;) :y :y :y
As I've said before, despite the theory .... there was no way my car was going to allow me to unlock it when my batter was that flat.
The trouble is Andy and Danny the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
Do you not have one lying around somewhere?
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..........my boot lid was open and has been for two days! No wonder the battery is flat! ::) ::) ::) .......
Oh well - look on the bright side! At least you'll be able to crawl througn to the front of the car & pop the bonnet. ;) :y :y :y
As I've said before, despite the theory .... there was no way my car was going to allow me to unlock it when my batter was that flat.
The trouble is Andy and Danny the car is in the garage, hard up against the rear wall in "Park", with the boot lid unable to rise high enough for anyone but a child to crawl through!! The word I have used frequently today is.......bugger!!!! >:( >:( >:( ;)
You need a 'tunnie' ;D
;D ;D
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Disconnect prop, and drag it out a bit?
Dont the park fingers engage on the dif?
In the box
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Lizzie - you're not trying - can't you borrow a small child and ram 'em in the boot?
Well actually dbug I have spoken to my adopted grand daughter and asked her to bring her lovely four year old son over as "he may be useful" ::) ::) ;)
This is what I have arranged Martin for tomorrow! :D ;)
I WILL get into that car somehow. ::)
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Hmmmm....KY and WD40.....having you tried mixing the two....is the KY still in date?
All this lube talk and much use of the bugger word earlier in the thread,I thought I had logged on to the wrong forum. ::) ;D ;D
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Hmmmm....KY and WD40.....having you tried mixing the two....is the KY still in date?
All this lube talk and much use of the bugger word earlier in the thread,I thought I had logged on to the wrong forum. ::) ;D ;D
Perv ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hmmmm....KY and WD40.....having you tried mixing the two....is the KY still in date?
All this lube talk and much use of the bugger word earlier in the thread,I thought I had logged on to the wrong forum. ::) ;D ;D
Perv ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Dont knock it till youve tried it. :o ::) ;) ;D ;D ;D
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on a more sensible note, use a set of jump leads, connect black to chassis, red to + on starter solenoid (not motor) and hook the other ends up to a battery, will give the car power to unlock.
providing you have another jack of some sort to gain access to the starter from underneath.
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on a more sensible note, use a set of jump leads, connect black to chassis, red to + on starter solenoid (not motor) and hook the other ends up to a battery, will give the car power to unlock.
providing you have another jack of some sort to gain access to the starter from underneath.
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Thanks, that is another great tip Vauxfan which I will try, with hopefully a lovely AA man doing all the graft for once! :D :D ;)
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Well I'm feeling a little stupid now!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
The AA man was with with within 25 minutes, and within three minutes he had the door open, the battery on booster, with the engine started!!!
Although the buttons of the locks had not risen from the "locked" position, making me think the car was still locked, in fact when I had broken the key yesterday in the lock I had in actual fact unlocked the system. I had just not tried to lift the door handle! ::) ::) ::) ::)
So of course, the AA man just lifted the door handle, went in to release the bonnet catch and in the blink of an eye the booster was on with the engine started. :D :D :D :D :D :D
I really didn't believe, and still don't, how all the buttons were down but the door could be opened!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Oh well, something learn't, and I got the kind AA man to remove the boot light bulb so if the boot is accidently left open the battery cannot be drained. ;) ;) ;)
Thanks for all your help though guys!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ;)
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Can imagine the embarrasment!
May explain braking the key, trying to open an already open lock!
Best put this one down to experience, and well done for owning up ;D
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Well I'm feeling a little stupid now!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
The AA man was with with within 25 minutes, and within three minutes he had the door open, the battery on booster, with the engine started!!!
Although the buttons of the locks had not risen from the "locked" position, making me think the car was still locked, in fact when I had broken the key yesterday in the lock I had in actual fact unlocked the system. I had just not tried to lift the door handle! ::) ::) ::) ::)
So of course, the AA man just lifted the door handle, went in to release the bonnet catch and in the blink of an eye the booster was on with the engine started. :D :D :D :D :D :D
I really didn't believe, and still don't, how all the buttons were down but the door could be opened!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Oh well, something learn't, and I got the kind AA man to remove the boot light bulb so if the boot is accidently left open the battery cannot be drained. ;) ;) ;)
Thanks for all your help though guys!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ;)
Lizzie "Incredible Hulk" Zoom. :-X We live and learn. As they they say, alls good that ends well. :y :y
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....... and well done for owning up ;D
I think I'd have made something up. ;) ;) ;) :y :y :y
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Hello Lizzie, Wow what a saga!! and well done persevered and got there in the end,true british spirit.Best Regards Cliff. :y :y
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Thanks all, but I still cannot understand how the buttons were all down but the car was unlocked!!!???? :o :o ::) ::) :-? :-? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Never known that on a car before! :o :o Has anyone else experienced it? :-?
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Can imagine the embarrasment!
May explain braking the key, trying to open an already open lock!
Best put this one down to experience, and well done for owning up ;D
Thanks, and absolutely right Jimbob...........the pressure I put on that poor key!! :o :o :o :o
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Thanks all, but I still cannot understand how the buttons were all down but the car was unlocked!!!???? :o :o ::) ::) :-? :-? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Never known that on a car before! :o :o Has anyone else experienced it? :-?
I'll try deadlocking my car tomorow, disconnecting the battery, breaking my key .... on second thoughts!!! ;D ;D ;D
Sorry. No I've not! :-/