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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 12:17:04

Title: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 12:17:04
Ok so I have a Omega 2.0 CDX model year 1999. I was looking at the paintwork thinking there is some touch up required. So I looked at the touch up pens that the previous owner gave me and thought "that's not right"...as they are for a titanium silver as the band around the pen I held near the bodywork and the car looks light gold to me. So I looked on this forum (thank god for the wealth of info!) and found the paint codes. Then I looked at the drivers door and found the following:

OPEL
e1*96/79*0077*03
W0L0VBM69X1010799
2050
3700
1-0970
2-1115

Z146 XXLB 011

8385V

Then I looked under the bonnet and found these codes:

22K231 VM69 RX L34 ML4
69X1010779 97L XN8
 XQ2 40
1A02

Well looking at the codes it must be 97L which is olive grey/titanium silver but the car is definitely light gold to me:

I cannot get my picture to load, it is here: http://uk.share.geocities.com/david.streeter@btinternet.com/Omega/IMG_4684.JPG

(http://uk.share.geocities.com/david.streeter@btinternet.com/Omega/IMG_4684.JPG)
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: Albatross on 14 December 2008, 18:14:00
The reason that you can't embed the picture is that it is inaccessible.

Your link is too.

I can get to http://uk.share.geocities.com/david.streeter@btinternet.com/ , but no further into the "omega" sub-folder.

Host your pictures on something like Flickr or Photobucket it will work then.

Nathan
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 20:05:10
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The reason that you can't embed the picture is that it is inaccessible.

Your link is too.

I can get to http://uk.share.geocities.com/david.streeter@btinternet.com/ , but no further into the "omega" sub-folder.

Host your pictures on something like Flickr or Photobucket it will work then.

Nathan

Thanks, try this: (http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4687.jpg)
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: MutantCav on 14 December 2008, 20:12:39
Paint code is Z146...97L will give you a general colour code but there are shades...the Z146 is more specific :)
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 20:51:41
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Paint code is Z146...97L will give you a general colour code but there are shades...the Z146 is more specific :)

Looking in the technical help section under paint codes I find:

146/97L,97U: Olive Grey/Titanium Silver (96-)

So it confirms the codes on the car but it does not match the body paint colour. I looked at the inside of the petrol cap and that is light gold too, also the body as it goes into the plastic housing so it does not look like this car has been resprayed. I'll try to get a photo of it next to a true silver car to give a photo comparison.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: holtender on 14 December 2008, 20:59:44
If you want to know if your car has been re-sprayed the best place to look is under the windscreen rubber, if that is the same colour as your car you can bet it is the original, that is  unless someone has spent serious money and removed the screen to change colour (unlikely).
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: Albatross on 14 December 2008, 22:34:41
It is a very nice colour though. What are those thin bronze pin-stripes along the outside edge of the boot-lid shut lines? Did you add them, they suit the colour of the car?
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: unlucky alf on 14 December 2008, 22:45:20
i had the same dilema with an old senator, it looked gold but the colour was listed as a shade of silver, if in doubt look under the carpet in the boot or the inner door skin.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 22:49:31
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It is a very nice colour though. What are those thin bronze pin-stripes along the outside edge of the boot-lid shut lines? Did you add them, they suit the colour of the car?

Thanks, I like it too!

I bought it about a month ago, so you are seeing what I bought!

Yep they are a bronze colour and there is a Vauxhall marque transfer of some description on the rear passengers lower half of the door!

Never owned an Omega before so this is all new to me! Had 4 cavaliers and loved them!

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 14 December 2008, 22:50:30
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i had the same dilema with an old senator, it looked gold but the colour was listed as a shade of silver, if in doubt look under the carpet in the boot or the inner door skin.

Thanks

I'll do that!
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: holtender on 14 December 2008, 22:52:14
My guess is it has been re-sprayed then.

Have you noticed any overspray on the window rubbers?
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 09:37:41
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My guess is it has been re-sprayed then.

Have you noticed any overspray on the window rubbers?

Not readily noticeable, I'll have a detailed look...but I guess you're right!
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2008, 09:37:42
Looks the same colour as the Estate - looks light "gold" but in the V5 is described as silver!  Paint is original.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 09:39:55
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Looks the same colour as the Estate - looks light "gold" but in the V5 is described as silver!  Paint is original.

How weird!

My V5 says that too! But the colour band of the touch up paint (titanium silver) is definitely silver when compared to the body. Does it dry as a different colour?
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2008, 09:49:16
Sorry dont know - never used touch up paint on the Estate.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 10:00:58
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Sorry dont know - never used touch up paint on the Estate.

Do you know the "correct" paint code as I need to touch up a small spot of rust on a door?
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2008, 10:04:26
I'll have a look 2nite when i get home
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 11:20:13
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My guess is it has been re-sprayed then.

Have you noticed any overspray on the window rubbers?

I had a good look at the car. No overspray on any of the rubbers including windows and windscreen. Looked in the boot under the carpet and behind the first aid and multi-cd changer ie the inner rear wing. Looked under the windscreen rubber. All seemingly original paint. I do not believe this to have been resprayed especially after member "dbug" says he too has a silver colour on his V5 but his is gold!
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2008, 17:35:20
Look at http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1222004987/0/
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 17:39:18
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Look at http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1222004987/0/

I did that already see my previous posts about 146/97L which is olive grey/titanium silver which is the colour code on the bonnet and door labels but not that of the car itself!
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: unlucky alf on 15 December 2008, 17:48:21
i hope you aint relying on the touch up cap colour as correct as they are rarely accurate, why not try a dab of the paint in an incospicuous place, let it dry & see how it compares to what youve got on the car :y
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 18:01:58
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i hope you aint relying on the touch up cap colour as correct as they are rarely accurate, why not try a dab of the paint in an incospicuous place, let it dry & see how it compares to what youve got on the car :y

That's the very problem...I need to find the correct paint code
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 15 December 2008, 18:28:34
Does anybody have a car with the following paint code "497/05L: Aztec Gold Mica (99-)" I am guessing from the age of my Omega this might be the correct paint code, can anybody see from this picture if it matches that paint code? (http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4685.jpg)
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: holtender on 15 December 2008, 21:51:59
Just take the car into your local car paint factors and ask them to tell you what paint is on your car, they will be happy to do this as they do it every day, even for professional bodyshops who don't have their own paint  mixing set up.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: dbug on 15 December 2008, 21:56:42
Paint codes on the Estate -

Door plate - Z146
Bonnet plate - 97L

According to colour codes that is Titanium Silver - hence ref in V5 to silver.  

As your codes are also Z146/97L your car will not be Aztec Gold Mica!! If it was you would have plate codes of 497/05L.

Do not try and colour match from photos - it doesn't work!

Despite what I said about photos above look on http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1219509773  for better (larger) pics of Estate.
Title: Re: Paint code conundrum
Post by: zl600a1 on 16 December 2008, 12:27:18
In an attempt to try and sort this out I have photo'd the touch up paint next to the body work to see what you guys think

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4689.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4692.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4693.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp209/david_streeter/Omega/IMG_4694.jpg)