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		Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Proz on 31 January 2009, 23:43:40
		
			
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				Looking for help on a slight hesitation on accelation ... only sometimes on hard acceleration above 3500rpm i feel a slight hesitation which then clears and revs again ..... in the past i've had code P0420 and P0170 codes but nothing pointing to any paticular part/sensor .... i have had 2 new cats fitted under the warranty but the P0420 code still kept coming back and the warranty is now expired .... i dont get the P0420 now though , seems to have been replaced by the fuel trim code P0170 which i just keep resetting .   There are no codes in the car just now so where do i start.   I dont really want to throw money at it to find any parts i replace dont cure the problem  :-/
 
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				hmmm, sounds like spark breaking down to me, how old are the plugs, have you checked wells for oil and the condition of the dis pac? But on the other hand i would want to be getting it on a tech 2 and check the fuel trims live data, or what ever it is they do, as i wonder if that could cause a hesitation if its bad enough, perhaps. Albatross had fuel trim code, turned out to be the maf giving inaccurate data iirc.
 Should add his is a 3.2 though.
 
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				hmmm, sounds like spark breaking down to me, how old are the plugs, have you checked wells for oil and the condition of the dis pac? But on the other hand i would want to be getting it on a tech 2 and check the fuel trims live data, or what ever it is they do, as i wonder if that could cause a hesitation if its bad enough, perhaps. Albatross had fuel trim code, turned out to be the maf giving inaccurate data iirc.
 Should add his is a 3.2 though.
 
 
 It had a full service at VX maybe 4-5 months ago so i would assume the plugs were done and last look no oil in plug wells but that was a few weeks ago mind you . I'll check again tomorrrow.  I think the dis was replaced under the warranty as it did develope a misfire , but again that must be 7-8 months ago . :-/
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				warranty? Bloody hell, if its under warranty get it back in there and get the fuel trims sorted, and anything else you can think of. GM  Maf's are over a £100! If thats the issue....
			
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				warranty? Bloody hell, if its under warranty get it back in there and get the fuel trims sorted, and anything else you can think of. GM  Maf's are over a £100! If thats the issue....  
 It was under warranty , but the 6 month i got when i bought it has expired .  I did get 2 new cats out of it though with the P0420 code which probly didnt even need replacing  ;).
 
 Interesting you mention the Maf though ... ive been looking online a lot about this problem code P0170 and it seems the maf is the first place that gets pointed to..... :-/
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				I unplugged the maf to see what would happen and i got the car with the spanner through it on the dash ... but it started and idled fine .
			
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				seems like a sensor problem to me..
 
 but I dont suspect maf.. :-/
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				seems like a sensor problem to me..
 
 but I dont suspect maf.. :-/
 
 Yeah im just waiting on it throwing up a more specific code rather than the fuel trim P0170  :-/
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				seems like a sensor problem to me..
 
 but I dont suspect maf.. :-/
 
 Yeah im just waiting on it throwing up a more specific code rather than the fuel trim P0170  :-/
 
 my estiimations are on
 throttle position sensor or cam sensor..
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				seems like a sensor problem to me..
 
 but I dont suspect maf.. :-/
 
 Yeah im just waiting on it throwing up a more specific code rather than the fuel trim P0170  :-/
 
 my estiimations are on
 throttle position sensor or cam sensor..
 
 
 Hopefully i'll get a code identifying a specific part soon  :-/
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				seems like a sensor problem to me..
 
 but I dont suspect maf.. :-/
 
 Yeah im just waiting on it throwing up a more specific code rather than the fuel trim P0170  :-/
 
 my estiimations are on
 throttle position sensor or cam sensor..
 
 
 Hopefully i'll get a code identifying a specific part soon  :-/
 
 yep..trial error is not a good idea..
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				If you can get a tech 2 on it (or an OBDII reader) and look at the live data from the MAF at, say, idle and 2500 RPM and then get someone with a known good car to do the same it might allow us to eliminate the MAF.
 
 A look at the live data would also confirm what's happening to the fuel trim (i.e. which way it has gone) and this might provide another clue.
 
 Kevin
 
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				I think there is a Tech 2 in my area .... did i hear Hotel21 mention he had one  :y............. my code reader only does freeze frame and not live data  :-/
			
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				A trip to see Hotel21 would be a good start. :y
 
 Kevin