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Title: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 26 February 2009, 14:33:34
Hi, i'm stuck  i dont really understand the error codes from doing the paperclip test so i have posted the results on the video below, If anyone understands how these work could you please post the results as you see them.... thanks for your help !! Andy...

http://s684.photobucket.com/albums/vv210/andybiggsuk/?action=view&current=Movie.flv
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Christian on 26 February 2009, 14:37:03
First was a 12
second a 19
unsure about 3rd!
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Jimbob on 26 February 2009, 14:38:31
12 - start of errors
19 - crank sensor - change it now!

there is another one but didnt get that, but that 19 will likely be the improtant one
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 26 February 2009, 14:41:54
Ok is the crank sensor pretty much a diy job or is it best to get the dealer to do it ??
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Jimbob on 26 February 2009, 14:42:46
edit  :

12 - start
19 - crank sensor
57 -
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Jimbob on 26 February 2009, 14:46:51
57 is Idle Air Control Voltage Low

which I think is often logged with a crank sensort fault.

Easy enough to change, sure it is in the maint guiod on how to best route the new cable away from hot bits
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 26 February 2009, 14:47:40
Just had a PM to say 19 may show up if the engine was not running during the test ??????
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Jimbob on 26 February 2009, 14:48:25
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Just had a PM to say 19 may show up if the engine was not running during the test ??????

No, 19 is a stored incorrect crank signal

31 is engine not running.

any 19 is generally an indicator that you WILL breakdown at some inopportune moment.

I think however, there is one person on here who has a 19 that they can just not get rid off, and doesnt cause any problems, but that is the exception not the rule.
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2009, 14:49:33
12
19
57
129
3x (didn't get it before start started)
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2009, 14:50:10
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Just had a PM to say 19 may show up if the engine was not running during the test ??????

No, 19 is a stored incorrect crank signal

31 is engine not running.

any 19 is generally an indicator that you WILL breakdown at some inopportune moment.

I think however, there is one person on here who has a 19 that they can just not get rid off, and doesnt cause any problems, but that is the exception not the rule.
Absolutely correct.
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 26 February 2009, 16:09:06
ordered a new crankshaft sensor today £55 + Vat so ill fit it in the morning............. Thanks Guys for your help on the Error codes.
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: vauxfan2k on 26 February 2009, 17:31:28
I have had code 19 on my elite for 3 years, only when I do the paperclip test tho, (enging running), if I check for codes using my reader, i dont get any.

Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 February 2009, 18:12:01
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I have had code 19 on my elite for 3 years, only when I do the paperclip test tho, (enging running), if I check for codes using my reader, i dont get any.


Hmm... I've had a code 19 for about 7 months now and can't get rid of it. No problems though as I fitted a new sensor when it first started playing up and stored the code :y :y :y
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2009, 18:21:45
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I have had code 19 on my elite for 3 years, only when I do the paperclip test tho, (enging running), if I check for codes using my reader, i dont get any.


Hmm... I've had a code 19 for about 7 months now and can't get rid of it. No problems though as I fitted a new sensor when it first started playing up and stored the code :y :y :y
Have you tried using a code reader to delete it?
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 February 2009, 22:10:32
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I have had code 19 on my elite for 3 years, only when I do the paperclip test tho, (enging running), if I check for codes using my reader, i dont get any.


Hmm... I've had a code 19 for about 7 months now and can't get rid of it. No problems though as I fitted a new sensor when it first started playing up and stored the code :y :y :y
Have you tried using a code reader to delete it?

When I was at Kevins we couldn't even get the tech 2 to comunicate with the engine ecu... Having thought about it I have a feeling the diagnostic wire isn't connected at the radio, which I believe is on the same line.

Was really hoping to have another go when I've checked behind the stereo
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 27 February 2009, 10:09:56
Huge thanks Guys, The Car is now running as sweet as can be after changing the crankshaft sensor (40 Mins)

Once again a huge thanks to you all, very much appreciated

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: Jimbob on 27 February 2009, 10:15:19
Glad to hear it, those crank sensors are pesky little buggers

least they are easy to sort.


such a shame a 19 doesnt illuminate the EML, would save such a lot of problems
Title: Re: Paperclip test results
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 27 February 2009, 15:06:32
Was not too bad to fit to be honest, my local garage wanted between £80 and £150 to fit it as he said it was a bugger to do on a V6 and could take upto 3 hours to do. Anyway 40 mins from start to finish and im not even a mechanic.... :)