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Title: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: benbrunt on 03 December 2008, 09:29:56
... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: bigdods on 03 December 2008, 09:35:40
Sounds normal for any rear wheel drive car, its not just the omega. When it snows is TC off, winter mode on the slushbox and slip slide away......
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 December 2008, 09:52:28
As above but try putting a bit of weight in the boot ;)
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Post by: Kieran on 03 December 2008, 11:35:01
What snow ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 December 2008, 12:29:16
Another LPG advantage
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 December 2008, 12:48:32
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Another LPG advantage
You can plug a gas heater in when you get stranded ;D
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: nabsim on 03 December 2008, 13:56:41
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Another LPG advantage
You can plug a gas heater in when you get stranded ;D

lol, thats not a bad idea either.
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Welung666 on 03 December 2008, 14:26:09
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Another LPG advantage
You can plug a gas heater in when you get stranded ;D

lol, thats not a bad idea either.

... and the gas stove so you can have a cuppa while you wait for the AA :y
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Techno on 03 December 2008, 14:34:37
This has always had me wondering I'm not sure now when it's off or on ie push switch and light on dash is off/on or whether it's no light on dash and it's on/off.  ::)

Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Jimbob on 03 December 2008, 14:53:30
TC is ON by default, with no light showing.


Press the button, and the light shows it is disabled.
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Techno on 03 December 2008, 15:03:50
Cheers I dont touch it as a rule.
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Essex_Andy on 03 December 2008, 15:13:48
I believe one of the reasons why you can turn TC off is so you can get grip when pulling away in snow/ice/mud etc
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Dave-C on 03 December 2008, 18:25:07
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As above but try putting a bit of weight in the boot ;)

A couple of bodies is about the right weight ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 18:29:41
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As above but try putting a bit of weight in the boot ;)

A couple of bodies is about the right weight ;D ;D ;D ;D


lol! damn i was half way to being able to have grip in the snow when i was in newquay:P
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: bighed on 03 December 2008, 18:40:48
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!

Its ok till you hit a dry patch and your gearbox end up in your front room ;D :y
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 19:05:08
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!

Its ok till you hit a dry patch and your gearbox end up in your front room ;D :y

just to piss on your bombfire... laws of physics prevent this because the tyres gripping and the energy required for the car to accelerate at such rate that the gearbox could potentially manage to push the engine off the mounts and the rear axle tear off the chassis is just not enough!  there isnt enough energy opposing the forward motion of the gearbox and wheels in the body ;) -try spinning your wheels of a wet field onto a dry road- all you get is a big screach and the revs drop
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Ian_D on 03 December 2008, 19:11:37
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!

Its ok till you hit a dry patch and your gearbox end up in your front room ;D :y

just to piss on your bombfire... laws of physics prevent this because the tyres gripping and the energy required for the car to accelerate at such rate that the gearbox could potentially manage to push the engine off the mounts and the rear axle tear off the chassis is just not enough!  there isnt enough energy opposing the forward motion of the gearbox and wheels in the body ;)

On the other hand... If one wheel was on dry ground, and the other on ice, That would mean that if the speedo was showing 160 mph, one wheel is doing 0mph, and the other is doing 320mph!  :o 320mph is a bit on the high side for tyres! Think of the centrifugal force on the rubber!  ;D
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 19:19:10
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!

Its ok till you hit a dry patch and your gearbox end up in your front room ;D :y

just to piss on your bombfire... laws of physics prevent this because the tyres gripping and the energy required for the car to accelerate at such rate that the gearbox could potentially manage to push the engine off the mounts and the rear axle tear off the chassis is just not enough!  there isnt enough energy opposing the forward motion of the gearbox and wheels in the body ;)

On the other hand... If one wheel was on dry ground, and the other on ice, That would mean that if the speedo was showing 160 mph, one wheel is doing 0mph, and the other is doing 320mph!  :o 320mph is a bit on the high side for tyres! Think of the centrifugal force on the rubber!  ;D

lmao! i dont think the diff would take it ian haha! either that or you would seriously heat some oil!
and i think you'd melt whatever you were spinning a wheel on at 320 along with the tyre :P
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Ian_D on 03 December 2008, 21:16:53
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!

Its ok till you hit a dry patch and your gearbox end up in your front room ;D :y

just to piss on your bombfire... laws of physics prevent this because the tyres gripping and the energy required for the car to accelerate at such rate that the gearbox could potentially manage to push the engine off the mounts and the rear axle tear off the chassis is just not enough!  there isnt enough energy opposing the forward motion of the gearbox and wheels in the body ;)

On the other hand... If one wheel was on dry ground, and the other on ice, That would mean that if the speedo was showing 160 mph, one wheel is doing 0mph, and the other is doing 320mph!  :o 320mph is a bit on the high side for tyres! Think of the centrifugal force on the rubber!  ;D

lmao! i dont think the diff would take it ian haha! either that or you would seriously heat some oil!
and i think you'd melt whatever you were spinning a wheel on at 320 along with the tyre :P

Right... We need a scrap mig... Ice... and a Video cam  ;D
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 21:36:31
lmmfao!!!!
ok :P
i have an engine aaaand a rolling shell!
lmao
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Liam on 03 December 2008, 21:41:10
This seriously begs the question:  Why oh why have i never seen a youtube video of a tall-geared US car with one wheel on the ground and one jacked up, put in top gear and the tits revved off it revealing what indeed happens to a 150mph rated tyre doing 300+!!

Hmmm - maybe just cos I've never searched for it....
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 21:42:49
lol i doubt anybody is stupid enough!
...till now :P *enters me and ian*
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Ian_D on 03 December 2008, 21:48:31
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lol i doubt anybody is stupid enough!
...till now :P *enters me and ian*
Time, Date & Location.... I will turn up for a scientific experiment! :y  ;D
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: ngrainqey on 03 December 2008, 21:56:32
lmao! oh yeah.. "scientific" being the operative word there... we could call it... operation burnout :P lmao!!!!
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Darkus Lordus on 03 December 2008, 22:39:05
Don't forget the safety goggle though!  ;D

Honestly, IMHO the TC system is utterly useless. It has caused me to tank slap my Elite round wet roundabouts & nearly fill my undergarments on more than one occasion! You can only turn that steering wheel so fast without breaking the steering pump!

As for the snow. I'm still waiting. I did drive to my girlfriends the other night & the outside temp display was flashing & saying 0.0 c. I turned off the TC & was expecting an extertaining drive but got absolutely nothing!  :(
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Artifex on 09 December 2008, 08:33:27
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... is quite frankly pants. It took me 15 minutes yesterday to move the car from in front of the house, the traction control was killing the power on the engine to the point that it nearly stalled and the 'ice' mode on the gearbox didn't help much.

In the end, to get it moved I had to rev the arse off it with the traction turned off with the rear wheels spinning like a chav on Tescos car park.

Was quite annoying yet satisfying to have the speedo up to 160 at a walking pace!


Yep! I discovered this too the other day, pulled into pub carpark to pick mate up then sat for about 5 minutes just spinning the wheels trying to "rock" the car back and forth to eventuall get over the ice! Anyway werent getting anywhere so we jst got out and shoved it, worked a treat!
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: nick v6 on 09 December 2008, 09:42:45
i went and got 2 bags of gravel to finish the drive off just before the ice started
there stil in the boot now
im using a bit more fuel but the car grips alot better
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: benbrunt on 09 December 2008, 09:47:35
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i went and got 2 bags of gravel to finish the drive off just before the ice started
there stil in the boot now
im using a bit more fuel but the car grips alot better
Just put your avatar in the boot and you should be sorted for any weather!
Title: Re: Traction Control in Snow...
Post by: Darkus Lordus on 04 March 2009, 19:33:00
I did find that changing the rear tyres for new ones really does help with grip. I didn't realise that they were that low. (showing canvas) :-[