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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Rob James on 16 March 2009, 20:41:19

Title: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Rob James on 16 March 2009, 20:41:19

Hi,

I had the pleasure of breaking down on the M1 today, with my 4 year old and 20 month old! I can think of much better ways of spending an afternoon!

The car was running fine, then with no warning the engine died leaving the engine warning light on. I coasted and tried starting the engine by putting into gear and by turning the ignition but with no joy so pulled onto the hard shoulder. After a couple of mins it still wouldn't start. The friendly AA man arrived and it started with no problems!

However after about a mile the same thing happened (with AA man following ready to assist). His fault reader wouldn't work my car and so we ended up getting towed home. If I start the car it idles with no problems for several mins and then cuts out, no overheating or any warnings.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Rob

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: MutantCav on 16 March 2009, 20:45:20

Crank sensor do a paperclip test in the morning you will most certainly get code 19  :y

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Welung666 on 16 March 2009, 20:46:03

Do a paperclip test and post up the codes :y Most likely be a 19 amongst them.

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 March 2009, 20:46:58

Do a paperclip test and post any fault codes.
Here's how to (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687)

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 March 2009, 20:46:59

Do the paper clip test

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Rob James on 16 March 2009, 21:02:32

Thanks guys. I'll give that a go. Assuming it is the crank sensor is that an expensive part? Is it easy to fix.

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Timbuk on 16 March 2009, 21:16:49

Cheap enough and easy to do :y

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2009, 21:22:52

Oh boy, those symptoms sound familiar ;D.  At least yours failed in the UK :-[

I have just mentioned your symptoms to Mrs TheBoy, and she has cried out "CRANK SENSOR" as well ;D

Paperclip it, see what it throws up (don't be surprised if there is a MAF or immobiliser code as well as the 19 you are expecting. These other erroneous codes can be ignored for now).

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Rob James on 23 March 2009, 16:20:27

Cheers everyone. Crank sensor it was. Now fixed and working well. While I was looking over the engine I've noticed that I've got oil at the top of the plugs. Where is the most likely place this is from?

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: RobG on 23 March 2009, 16:25:35

Cam cover gaskets leaking Rob. Look here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281 :y

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Rob James on 23 March 2009, 16:34:29

Thanks. That looks quite a difficult for a guy like me! How urgent is it to get it fixed, am I ok for a 2000 miles (likely mileage till I can meet up with my mate and get it done)?

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: TECHNOPUG on 23 March 2009, 17:03:16

Difficult to say. Take a look at the leads as this is where the problem starts. The oil corrodes the rubber leads and this causes a misfire. The resulting misfire can short out the dis pack, blow the CATS and the silencers.....so could end up being very costly!

Title: Re: Dies with no warning - on the M1
Post by: Rob James on 24 March 2009, 09:41:02

ouch. I don't like costly!

Are the parts listed in the Cam cover gaskets guide (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281) the same for the extended plenium?

Cheers,

Rob.