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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: gazsomega on 10 March 2009, 09:06:58
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need some help went to change my oil on my 2.5 td as some of you may no the filter cover is plastic with a 36mm socket needed to remove. i tryed to undo mine which was very tight that tight its now broke the plastic nut on top ive looked on here for one carnt see nothing anyone no ware i can obtain one no 2.5 breaking in my area.also any ideas how to remove the old one now im thinking just smash it off and fit new one
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Was you using a proper 36mm socket (preferable proper hex socket)?
Seem to recall not massively expensive new, though they have a habit of supplying wrong part.
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was using 36mm dont think it was a hex had lots of splines on the socket dont no the name
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It is 36mm hex for sure, only plastic so should not be too tight. If yours has broken, you either fit another, or there is a "How to" on here about converting to the screw on type filter, I think the TD is suitable.
I don't have a 36mm socket, so I have to get away with an adjustable, not ideal but does the job. In your case, you may be able to get a chisel in and tap it round, bear in mind the diameter is almost 4 inches, and you don't need to worry about damage. Another option is make up a tool, like a strap type oil filter wrench, hope you know what I mean.
Best of luck.
::)
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The "How to" is here, not done it myself, and you need to confirm you can convert theTD:-
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204142232
It does sound like you have used a Torx on the Hex.
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i understand, i have tryed an oil strap still wont move my next option will be to chisel it round but i dont have one to put back on if this breaks it i cart find one need to keep looking .who ever did it before me never did it 25 nm as its realy tight its got me how tight it is
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It is 36mm hex for sure, only plastic so should not be too tight. If yours has broken, you either fit another, or there is a "How to" on here about converting to the screw on type filter, I think the TD is suitable.
I don't have a 36mm socket, so I have to get away with an adjustable, not ideal but does the job. In your case, you may be able to get a chisel in and tap it round, bear in mind the diameter is almost 4 inches, and you don't need to worry about damage. Another option is make up a tool, like a strap type oil filter wrench, hope you know what I mean.
Best of luck.
::)
Eh?
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i understand, i have tryed an oil strap still wont move my next option will be to chisel it round but i dont have one to put back on if this breaks it i cart find one need to keep looking .who ever did it before me never did it 25 nm as its realy tight its got me how tight it is
before removal, you need to get a replacement. Dealers don't stock it, and my experience of BMW sourced parts is a delay.
So go order a new one, and for now just change the oil and not the filter. Not ideal, but best you can do until you have a new bit
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order from vx then do you think it will be dealer only
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The Boy, are you saying you can't convert filters on the TD? ::)
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order from vx then do you think it will be dealer only
Certainly won't be available in the aftermarket sector.
You could also try BMW or Landrover dealers - BMW used engine in 325tds and 525tds, LR in RangeRover 2.5DSE
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The Boy, are you saying you can't convert filters on the TD? ::)
You could convert to the older style TD filters with the metal cap on the fiilter canister, but a hell of a lot of work, and no gain. And the filters are twice the price for the older type fitted to 2.5TD
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OK right thanks. Now I know. :y
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The "How to" is here, not done it myself, and you need to confirm you can convert theTD:-
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1204142232
It does sound like you have used a Torx on the Hex.
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Just read your link above - thats for v6 petrols only. Wouldn't work for TD engines.
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ok thanks so when i have new part just get it off however then
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ok thanks so when i have new part just get it off however then
The best type of socket to use is a 36mm LOW-PROFILE HEXAGON type with a 3/8" square drive.
These are available from good motor factors etc for around 5 quid each.
The more common bi-hexagon sockets simply tend to round-off the nut.
To remove the offending part, try using a strap wrench or start it turning with a chisel.
When you fit the new one, just tighten it firmly - don't 'murder' it up.
The low-profile socket only has a 3/8" drive - so there's the clue!
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ok thanks so when i have new part just get it off however then
Will need a decent strap around it to undo.
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ok thanks so when i have new part just get it off however then
The best type of socket to use is a 36mm LOW-PROFILE HEXAGON type with a 3/8" square drive.
These are available from good motor factors etc for around 5 quid each.
The more common bi-hexagon sockets simply tend to round-off the nut.
To remove the offending part, try using a strap wrench or start it turning with a chisel.
When you fit the new one, just tighten it firmly - don't 'murder' it up.
The low-profile socket only has a 3/8" drive - so there's the clue!
I use a Impact type socket, simply because it was the only 36mm Hex one I could get locally (Halfrauds). Cost about £4 on halfords trade
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ive used my mates strap around it he works in a garage and its a good strap but there not much room down there to be honest
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ive used my mates strap around it he works in a garage and its a good strap but there not much room down there to be honest
more room with intake off ;)
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You ARE putting the strap around the TOP bit??? Not the body lower down??? Just a thought. :o
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Hi mate, had exactly the same problem myself last weekend - nut snapped off the top. But but worry ye not - popped down to Halfrauds and bought a chain wrench affair for 6 squids. Fits over top of the plastic cannister with a bit of knuckle scraping and fiddling, but all you need is a 1/2 inch extension and ratchet to turn it. Only took 1/4 turn to loosen it and job was a good`un. MAKE SURE you get the right filter to replace though - theres 2 very similar and i got the wrong one 1st time round. :y :y
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yeah i put starp around bottom housing of the case still wouldnt turn the strap from hafords do you have a picture all i want to do is change the filter ive done plenty on other cars this has been the hardest ever
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when i say bottom housing i mean its still the same case that is attached to the nut
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OK I think you know what you're doing, just wanted to make sure. I was looking for a pic earlier without success. I changed mine the other day, never thought of taking pics. ::)
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i think my only option is to get down vx and get a price on a new one then try and chisel the old one round if i break it then at least it can be replaced
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Yes I agree, no point getting past the point of no return without the parts to finish. It is annoying people tighten plastic bits like this, there is no need. Best of luck. ::)
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im suprised it didnt break putting it on its unreal i think for plastic will post back how i get on
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Hi Gaz, sorry mate no pics till tomorrow, but i tried my usual strap and couldnt get enough `purchase` on the cannister, also tried the chisel solution but got too scared of breaking it!! got the cheap chain one and it got a much better grip. And yes it did seem stupidly tight!!
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Hi Gaz, sorry mate no pics till tomorrow, but i tried my usual strap and couldnt get enough `purchase` on the cannister, also tried the chisel solution but got too scared of breaking it!! got the cheap chain one and it got a much better grip. And yes it did seem stupidly tight!!
just wondering which strap to go buy first and try that as there is a few down there sooner try the one that worked
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http://www.choiceful.com/choiceful-id-101740-Am-tech-Heavy-Duty-Drive-Oil-Filter-Strap-Wrench.html
would that be the strap your on about
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I am sure that strap will undo it - but I thought you had already tried one??? You are only undoing what is in effect, a plastic cap, it can only reach a certain amount of "Tightness". Good luck mate. ::)
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http://www.choiceful.com/choiceful-id-101740-Am-tech-Heavy-Duty-Drive-Oil-Filter-Strap-Wrench.html
would that be the strap your on about
I different concatenation ;) ;)
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Hi Gaz, this is the one i used mate - should cure your `tightness` problems! Just pop in a 1/2" extention and ratchet and off you go. :y :y
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/227190/halfords_oil_filter_wrench.html
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http://www.choiceful.com/choiceful-id-101740-Am-tech-Heavy-Duty-Drive-Oil-Filter-Strap-Wrench.html
would that be the strap your on about
I different concatenation ;) ;)
;D ;D ;D is that even a word??? :y
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there all big words for me lol
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tryed the srtap the other week and it broke so went and brought a claw type that you turn with a wrench just got it on and i realy thought it was going to snap then it give at last so i have now change my oil and filter at last thanks for the help