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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Pete Elite on 08 April 2009, 23:27:25

Title: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 08 April 2009, 23:27:25
I would just like to say a big thanks to Richierich for helping me to reattach my heater rod(several times :-X :)) whilst losing some skin in the process :(. [size=14]Thanks mate[/size], certainly couldn't have done it with out yer ;).

  Now the only problem remaining is I've only got heat(hooray)on the passenger side(boo)no matter what buttons i press on the Climate Control or resetting of the unit, so has anyone got any ideas as to why :question.

       Any suggestions gratefully received :y.

      Thanks,
                 Pete :).

 

  
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: RobG on 08 April 2009, 23:36:12
Isn`t there also a rod that controls the driver`s side ::)
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: SteveD on 08 April 2009, 23:43:38
There is, same as the offside but trickier to get the top bit back on if that has dropped off.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 08 April 2009, 23:51:49
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Isn`t there also a rod that controls the driver`s side ::)


        The rod we reattached Rob goes across the heater above and behind the radio(pre-facelift) from left to right and can be felt moving left to right and vice-verse when you press the buttons for air to head, and air to head/feet.

  Air is blown to all vents but only hot on the passenger side for some unknown reason which hopefully someone can tell me :-?.

   It's the only rod which was off as far as i know and was working fine before :).
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 08 April 2009, 23:55:52
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There is, same as the offside but trickier to get the top bit back on if that has dropped off.

       From what we could see Steve there is only one rod which attaches to both sides and works as I've explained in my above answer to RobG :).
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 09 April 2009, 00:01:45
 I must admit it does seem like an impossible task when you see the room you have to work in :o and does require the removal of the glove box and some of your skin ;D.

   You also need the help of someone like Richierich who has long thin hands and a lot of patience :) without whom i would have had no chance of refitting the rod :'(.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: SteveD on 09 April 2009, 00:01:55
There's a lever that controls a big flap in the middle of the heater box & then 2 smaller "dog leg" ones on each side linked to the stepper motors for the climate control. If you've got some sort of heat the one that operates the centre flap is working. If heat is only on one side it will be one of the smaller ones. I posted details on how to fix a while back but can't find it at the moment. I'll put a link up if I can.

 :)
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 09 April 2009, 00:05:47
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There's a lever that controls a big flap in the middle of the heater box & then 2 smaller "dog leg" ones on each side linked to the stepper motors for the climate control. If you've got some sort of heat the one that operates the centre flap is working. If heat is only on one side it will be one of the smaller ones. I posted details on how to fix a while back but can't find it at the moment. I'll put a link up if I can.

 :)


    Thanks Steve, was this on an early pre-facelift as i don't know if they are all the same as not having seen a picture of any variations :)
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: SteveD on 09 April 2009, 00:11:04
It was on a facelift but I worked off the diagram for a pre-facelift!

They're almost the same behind the scenes apart from the controls.

If you imagine you're sat on the gearstick and put a hand either side at the bottom of the heater box infront of you, you would be touching the motors and end of the arms. The OS one is visible just between the over foot trim & the console. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Andy B on 09 April 2009, 00:13:55
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If you imagine you're sat on the gearstick .......

 :o :o :o :o Oooeer!!  :o :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: SteveD on 09 April 2009, 00:16:57
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If you imagine you're sat on the gearstick .......

 :o :o :o :o Oooeer!!  :o :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D

Thought that when I was typing it! LOL
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: SteveD on 09 April 2009, 00:28:21
Here you go(someone else has done a how to) - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196616207
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 09 April 2009, 00:59:56
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It was on a facelift but I worked off the diagram for a pre-facelift!

They're almost the same behind the scenes apart from the controls.

If you imagine you're sat on the gearstick and put a hand either side at the bottom of the heater box infront of you, you would be touching the motors and end of the arms. The OS one is visible just between the over foot trim & the console. Hope this helps!

     I went outside and did as you said Steve but wished I'd read it properly as i missed the word imagine and for some reason came back in feeling totally buggered :o :D ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 09 April 2009, 01:02:24
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Here you go(someone else has done a how to) - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196616207

  Thanks for this Steve and suppose/hope the other side should be the same :-/.

   I'll check it out over the weekend and let you know how i get on :y
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Richie London on 09 April 2009, 10:02:59
thanks pete, my wrists were red raw last night but ok now, bit sore  but at least we got that rod back on, vauxhall certainly designed that so no tinker could do it themself easy. cant imagine how much they would charge to do the work to put it right but it wouldnt be cheap.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: unlucky alf on 09 April 2009, 10:38:33
oooh does that mean youll do mine next then chaps;D, i tried the sitting on the gearknob approach but got stuck, i think i must have twisted myself slightly & it acted like a bayonet fitting :o, a quick shove down & twist eventually got me free :D :D
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 10 April 2009, 00:13:40
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thanks pete, my wrists were red raw last night but ok now, bit sore  but at least we got that rod back on, vauxhall certainly designed that so no tinker could do it themself easy. cant imagine how much they would charge to do the work to put it right but it wouldnt be cheap.

    All the thanks go to you Rich as like i said, couldn't have done it without you ;).

    Wouldn't even like to say what VX would charge for the job or what sort of state the car would be in once they did ::).
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 10 April 2009, 00:18:44
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oooh does that mean youll do mine next then chaps;D, i tried the sitting on the gearknob approach but got stuck, i think i must have twisted myself slightly & it acted like a bayonet fitting :o, a quick shove down & twist eventually got me free :D :D

       Ouch, that sounds painful :o ;D.

   I'm sure Tim that if you can get the car down south we can try and sort it ;).
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: chrisl_1960 on 10 April 2009, 19:42:20
I had exactly the same problem a few weeks ago, passenger side hot, freezing on the drivers side, the actuator rod had come off the little servo motor, behind the centre consol, accessed via the footwell, as per the guide, space is tight, and it's a fiddly job. preferably done by a yoga expert with matchstick thin fingers.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 11 April 2009, 00:02:56
Thanks Chris for your input ;).
 Was the servo you had to reattach the rod to in the right footwell or left as the one in the How TO is opposite to yours(cold on left/hot on right) or is there only one servo and it's on the left?

   Also not sure that yours being a facelift and mine a pre-facelift that the setup is the same :-/.

             Cheers,
                       Pete :y.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: chrisl_1960 on 11 April 2009, 19:25:05
mine was cold on the drivers side, so it was that footwell, I read the guide, and then just went looking on the drivers side, It's exactly opposite.
Title: Re: Heater Rod Reattachment
Post by: Pete Elite on 11 April 2009, 22:15:26
Thanks Chris I'll take a look at that and hope this is causing the problem with mine, sounds hopeful :y.

   Can anyone let me know if the Pre-facelift and Facelift setups are the same regarding the heater rod connections etc.? :)