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Title: Is it Legal?
Post by: going crazy on 21 April 2009, 15:23:42
Need to replace a couple of tyres (195/65) on my car and noticed yesterday the other 2 good tyres of size 205/65 15.

Also noticed one of them is a marked V while the rest are H marked.

Is the legal to have 2 tyres 205/65 while the rest are 195/65, and also can I retain 205/65 at the rear while I use 195/65 in front?

Fingers crossed, I do not need to replace all 4 :-[
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: the-toy-maker on 21 April 2009, 15:26:11
as far as i know as long as the two fronts are the same and the two rears are the same the fronts and rears dont have to be the same :-/

dont quote me on this tho :)
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: bigdods on 21 April 2009, 15:39:20
You need to have the correct speed rating for the car as specified by the manufacturer on all 4 tyres. No idea what the rating is for that size tyre, I would suspect its V but the manual will give you the answer.

Although its called 'speed rating' it also relates to the weight bearing capacity of the tyre under load and speed including sidewall flex rates which is why you will find high speed rated tyres on cars that will never achieve the actual rated speed.

I can tell you from experience with the TVR (its hard to get Z rated tyres in correct 15" size!)  that if you put tyres on the are not of the correct speed rating you must inform your insurer otherwise your insurance *may* be invalidated. It is something they will check should you have a major prang.

ETA: H is up to 130mph V is up to 149mph
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: going crazy on 21 April 2009, 15:42:21
hmm, interesting. Will check the manual for speed rating.  
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: ians on 21 April 2009, 15:44:55
My old 2L ('94) DID include H rated in the manual.
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: bigdods on 21 April 2009, 15:50:12
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My old 2L ('94) DID include H rated in the manual.

If you can use H then go for it, they should be cheaper than the V.
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: M0T0RVATE on 21 April 2009, 16:15:20
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Need to replace a couple of tyres (195/65) on my car and noticed yesterday the other 2 good tyres of size 205/65 15.

Also noticed one of them is a marked V while the rest are H marked.

Is the legal to have 2 tyres 205/65 while the rest are 195/65, and also can I retain 205/65 at the rear while I use 195/65 in front?

Fingers crossed, I do not need to replace all 4 :-[


As already mentioned, V rating would be preferable.
As for "legality", I believe both tyres on same axle must be the same rating and size

 :) :y...

Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 21 April 2009, 17:35:36
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Need to replace a couple of tyres (195/65) on my car and noticed yesterday the other 2 good tyres of size 205/65 15.

Also noticed one of them is a marked V while the rest are H marked.

Is the legal to have 2 tyres 205/65 while the rest are 195/65, and also can I retain 205/65 at the rear while I use 195/65 in front?

Fingers crossed, I do not need to replace all 4 :-[


Tyres are one of the first things insurance investigators check in the event of a claim following an RTA.  Any variation gives them the grounds to challange the validity of the claim.  I wouldn't take the chance.  Tyres are the only point of contact with the road after all and you have precious little surface area to keep you going in the direction intended. :y
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: going crazy on 21 April 2009, 18:04:28
Per the manual I can use 195/65 with 91H speed rating or 205/65 with 94V

So I have decided to leave the rear ones at 205/65 94V and the front ones will be 165/95 91H

Checked with my insure company - changing to a 16" alloy would cost me more to insure so I have ruled that as an option.

Do you reckon changing to 206/65 94V is worth the extra spend? What might be the benefits when compared to 195/65 91H?

Thanks
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 21 April 2009, 18:08:04
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You need to have the correct speed rating for the car as specified by the manufacturer on all 4 tyres. No idea what the rating is for that size tyre, I would suspect its V but the manual will give you the answer.

Although its called 'speed rating' it also relates to the weight bearing capacity of the tyre under load and speed including sidewall flex rates which is why you will find high speed rated tyres on cars that will never achieve the actual rated speed.

I can tell you from experience with the TVR (its hard to get Z rated tyres in correct 15" size!)  that if you put tyres on the are not of the correct speed rating you must inform your insurer otherwise your insurance *may* be invalidated. It is something they will check should you have a major prang.

ETA: H is up to 130mph V is up to 149mph

I, like many on here no doubt, have 'W's' all round!! 8-) 8-) ;)
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: waspy on 21 April 2009, 18:14:10
This speed rating thing always makes me laugh= V,W,Z etc. We can only 70mph ::)
I wonder if when we all have limiters fitted through GPS, they'll still insist on us having rated tyres then :-?
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 21 April 2009, 18:17:20
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This speed rating thing always makes me laugh= V,W,Z etc. We can only 70mph ::)
I wonder if when we all have limiters fitted through GPS, they'll still insist on us having rated tyres then :-?

Really! :o :o :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

I think 90% of drivers on the UK's motorways have not heard of that one! :D :D :D ;)

Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: dbug on 21 April 2009, 19:29:01
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You need to have the correct speed rating for the car as specified by the manufacturer on all 4 tyres. No idea what the rating is for that size tyre, I would suspect its V but the manual will give you the answer.

Although its called 'speed rating' it also relates to the weight bearing capacity of the tyre under load and speed including sidewall flex rates which is why you will find high speed rated tyres on cars that will never achieve the actual rated speed.

I can tell you from experience with the TVR (its hard to get Z rated tyres in correct 15" size!)  that if you put tyres on the are not of the correct speed rating you must inform your insurer otherwise your insurance *may* be invalidated. It is something they will check should you have a major prang.

ETA: H is up to 130mph V is up to 149mph

I, like many on here no doubt, have 'W's' all round!! 8-) 8-) ;)

Lizzie his is a 4pot!!!! Wont do what a V6 will do ;)
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 21 April 2009, 19:30:53
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You need to have the correct speed rating for the car as specified by the manufacturer on all 4 tyres. No idea what the rating is for that size tyre, I would suspect its V but the manual will give you the answer.

Although its called 'speed rating' it also relates to the weight bearing capacity of the tyre under load and speed including sidewall flex rates which is why you will find high speed rated tyres on cars that will never achieve the actual rated speed.

I can tell you from experience with the TVR (its hard to get Z rated tyres in correct 15" size!)  that if you put tyres on the are not of the correct speed rating you must inform your insurer otherwise your insurance *may* be invalidated. It is something they will check should you have a major prang.

ETA: H is up to 130mph V is up to 149mph

I, like many on here no doubt, have 'W's' all round!! 8-) 8-) ;)

Lizzie his is a 4pot!!!! Wont do what a V6 will do ;)


He's not trying then!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Yes I did miss that fact!! ::) ::) ::) But his should still do 120!! 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: DC on 21 April 2009, 22:33:09
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I, like many on here no doubt, have 'W's' all round!!

Sorry to say but it will not go any faster than 2.5V6 on V's!!!


In the meantime, something rarely mentioned, you also have to consider weight rating: you need 91 or higher
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: going crazy on 22 April 2009, 09:10:44
Thanks everyone for your time & for your replies

DC - I am aware of rating and have nothing less than 91.

Still waiting to hear if changing to 205/65 94V will have any signifant benifit over 195/65 91H. Any clues?
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: Radar on 22 April 2009, 21:22:54
I would say no benefit because having seen you and your car I would say you are not going to be driving around like a mad man. I would just buy two 195s and save your money for something else that will enevitably pop up.
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: DC on 22 April 2009, 22:49:35
actualy, i disagree with Radar. If 2 good ones are 205/65, when replacing two 195/65 I would suggest buying 205/65 so you have all 4 tyres the same size. 205/65 should not be THAT much more expensive
Title: Re: Is it Legal?
Post by: going crazy on 23 April 2009, 09:51:20
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I would say no benefit because having seen you and your car I would say you are not going to be driving around like a mad man. I would just buy two 195s and save your money for something else that will enevitably pop up.

Thanks, Radar.