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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: kjf7 on 01 May 2009, 21:24:33
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seen what i think are these they are on a t reg saloon at a local scrapie would i be correct? :-?
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Very likely but check they don't have a balast pack (small metal box with wires) screwed to the underside, that would make them HID's.
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whats the difference between the two and is the box attached to the lights or the car
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the HID lights would mean a bit of wiring & a headlamp wash system fitting, projectors go straight on but check the adjusters as they are prone to breaking :y
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If they are on anything but an elite or MV6 then they will more than likely be projector :y Ballast pack is attached to the underside of the headlight, small metal box about 4 inches square :y
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whats the difference between the two and is the box attached to the lights or the car
The main difference is that one uses normal halogen bulbs (projector type only) and the other one uses a much different type of bulb - HID (high intensity discharge) lamps which uses that small metal box that Weling and MutantCav said. HIDs are better than the normal projector type. Check out the following for a better idea:
http://www.squidoo.com/hid-bulbs-halogen-bulbs
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZUZ072euek
EDIT - I meant WelUng
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Thanks Chris, thats what I meant but this free bottle of Bells has started working ;D
HID are illegal unless you have self leveling and headlight washers! :y
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ri :yght cheers no metal box on these and they were on a cd model would they be an up grade on mine 1995 estate and will they fit thank you
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they will fit mate but like i said make sure there is no rattles in them if you give them a shake, adjusters a known problem :y
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can adjusters be fixed as did notice passanger one moves around inside and makes sound
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they can be fixed but its a bit of a job, plus you will need another adjuster which you cant buy, i used one out of the old style lights & had to make it longer, if your lucky its a clean break so might be able to epoxy it.
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ok he wants £20 for both is it worth it and how do you get them apart to do the job
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Very worth it...bite his hand off mate whether they rattle or not :y
If they dont rattle, stick em straight on your car :y
Where in lincs??
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i,m about 10 miles north of peterborough on th A15
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he's a mate/customer of mine just been over and got them anyway one deffinatly has movement and rattles seems one end isn't attached
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i can see what i think is the bloody break now opporsite end to indicator and near top end of threads on adjuster
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The end near the indicator will probably just need pushing back into place...the other end will be a broken adjuster...
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do you have to get in by removing the plastic front if so how seems to be sealed but would suppose it would be cheers
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Thanks Chris, thats what I meant but this free bottle of Bells has started working ;D
HID are illegal unless you have self leveling and headlight washers! :y
no there are not bud ! ::) ::)
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yup you have to take the lens off, heat up the edge with a hair dryer a couple of inches at a time & gently prise apart :y
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it seems the other light has come loose now cant see a break just part of slider moving do the threads go on these plastic bar stood s
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it self distructs mate, more often than not if you try & glue it itll be so brittle anyway the threaded bit on the end might shatter. :'( perhaps mutant cav might help if you are near him.
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sorry markey mark should of just bought your's would have been less hassel saw these and thought being next door would give them ago still might end up buyng some more maybe thhese will be of use to someone else
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no worries mate there still here :y
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hi got the light apart glued adjuster now need to put back together is it the reverse or is there some better way to seal lights or is it a case of heating with hair drier and pushing back together :y
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that was a waste of time broken already luck hav'nt fitted is there a better glue used araldite last time? the adjusters arn't supported enought when in position inside the light only just reach the part they slide into
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this is what most people have found that the plastic doesnt glue very well on the adjusters, i ended up using old style adjusters but had to extend them as they are shorter, doesnt look pretty but does the job & you dont see them anyway, as for re-sealing the lense you could use gutter sealer or just use a clear silicone sealer, but the silcone stuff will be a pig if you want to get them apart again :y
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what about the adjusters from the old lights although hav'nt taken the lights off yet so dont know if they look anything like projectors
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what about the adjusters from the old lights although hav'nt taken the lights off yet so dont know if they look anything like projectors
that is exactly what i did - take 2 broken projectors and fit the old style adjusters from your current lights.
As Alf said they don't quite fit right and won't look pretty but it DOES work (i know ;))
The old adjusters are too short and won't reach the sliders but still long enough to reach thread so will work. :y
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maybe thats what have already been fitted to these projectors they only just touch the sides of the slider bit they run into adjusters are about 1.25 inches long without ball joint what do you think
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maybe thats what have already been fitted to these projectors they only just touch the sides of the slider bit they run into adjusters are about 1.25 inches long without ball joint what do you think
unlikely that old style adjusters would fracture as they are no where near as brittle as the new style :-/
what happened to MDTM making adjusters in extruded aluminium? :-?
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maybe thats what have already been fitted to these projectors they only just touch the sides of the slider bit they run into adjusters are about 1.25 inches long without ball joint what do you think
unlikely that old style adjusters would fracture as they are no where near as brittle as the new style :-/
what happened to MDTM making adjusters in extruded aluminium? :-?
i'll have a pair of those! how long are old style adjusters then
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the projector adjusters are black & the old style are white, to make the old style fit you have to extend them or youll be plane spotting ;D, what i did was to join 2 of the nylon inserts together [the bit that clips to reflector & pops onto the adjuster},the way i done it is awkward to explain but easy to do & works fine.
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maybe thats what have already been fitted to these projectors they only just touch the sides of the slider bit they run into adjusters are about 1.25 inches long without ball joint what do you think
unlikely that old style adjusters would fracture as they are no where near as brittle as the new style :-/
what happened to MDTM making adjusters in extruded aluminium? :-?
i'll have a pair of those! how long are old style adjusters then
no idea as they're on my car ;D (about 20mm shorter than the new ones i think)
i did toy with the idea of getting a local machine shop to mill me a pair of new ones as wouldn't be to difficult, ended up bodging with old ones though (a bodge that has been on my car for 12 months and 1 MOT mind)
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ok thanks everyone i think i've got a plan but no time to do it at the mo the other thing is after all of this am i likely to have lights that allow me to see where i'm going esp on dip beam?
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the projector adjusters are black & the old style are white, to make the old style fit you have to extend them or youll be plane spotting ;D, what i did was to join 2 of the nylon inserts together [the bit that clips to reflector & pops onto the adjuster},the way i done it is awkward to explain but easy to do & works fine.
i didn't bother, they still reached the thread but didn't reach the slider, was a bit concerned when i was setting then up (worried that the adjuster would fall off the end of the thread :-[)
but all worked fine - got the headlights checked at my local MOT station - and passed MOT 6 months later ;)
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ok thanks everyone i think i've got a plan but no time to do it at the mo the other thing is after all of this am i likely to have lights that allow me to see where i'm going esp on dip beam?
to be honest with you they are still not brilliant considering the performance of the rest of the car
but they are sooooo much better than the old lights :y
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Get Hids if you have an elite theres no excuse! aslong as you have s/l suspension obviously top keep pc plod happy :y
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Get Hids if you have an elite theres no excuse! aslong as you have s/l suspension obviously top keep pc plod happy :y
is self levelling fitted to estates then? my elite already has the headlight wash so at first glance i'm sure plod would be none the wiser ::)
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mines got self leveling sus as far as i know the guy (a mate) who owned it before me said he had the replaced/fixed? or something, Suppose it would make sence as bound to get some heavy loads in that massive boot and come to think about it have read something in manuel. Whats headlight washers got to do with it?
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getting ready for 2nd try fixing these projectors using the parts from old lights got some black gutter sealer is it best to strip off all the old sealer and start again or can i leave it on? as it bloody awful messy shite
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getting ready for 2nd try fixing these projectors using the parts from old lights got some black gutter sealer is it best to strip off all the old sealer and start again or can i leave it on? as it's bloody awful messy shite
yo yo yo friendships where have you gone ;D
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Get Hids if you have an elite theres no excuse! aslong as you have s/l suspension obviously top keep pc plod happy :y
is self levelling fitted to estates then? my elite already has the headlight wash so at first glance i'm sure plod would be none the wiser ::)
Some saloons have it too!
They are far superior to halogen bulbs
sorry kjf7 but i managed to bodge my'n together with a sawn off 2inch nail dont ask!
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get out any big lumps of the old stuff first or it wont seal down flush all round, you wont get it all out :y
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ho i'll need to take off washer jets wont i haw do you do that i know they usually fall off but they seem quite tight cheers
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getting ready for 2nd try fixing these projectors using the parts from old lights got some black gutter sealer is it best to strip off all the old sealer and start again or can i leave it on? as it bloody awful messy shite
big lumps removed then give it a good hairdrying to warm it up before fit the 2 parts back together.
then reseal with a bit of bathroom sealant ;) before fitting rubber gasket over the top :y
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had a chance today to try and sort these buggers out, ended up making some adjusters and all was fine until i lightly dusted a finger print from reflector and the shiny surface popped off aswell which i knew would happen but was soooo careful! anyway at least i can make an adjuster now and even thinking about going into production! soon as i found out the threads were 3/16 i remembered i had a tap in that size and away we go. Not fitting the bloody things now so would be nice if they went to a good home cheers for all the help :y