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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: ketho on 03 January 2009, 22:12:31

Title: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 03 January 2009, 22:12:31
There is a little list of things wrong with my car and its out of MOT, I'll list the ones I'm stuck with here and if you can give any help it would be brillant and save me from continuing a life of bangernomicts.

From the day I bought the car its had a bit of an oil leak, wasn't much so didn't stress about it.

About a month ago it started leaking something, had a check and the expansion tank for the coolant was dry, so I started topping that up as well.

Then in the run up to xams and the end of the MOT (26th dec) my car developed a problem where the engine cuts out when reved above 2500 revs.

I've got no idea whats wrong with it and have almost no experince fixing cars (biggest job I've ever done was changing the front disks on this car). But I don't want to buy another guff cheap car and if I can't fix this thats what it will be.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: hotel21 on 03 January 2009, 22:16:24
Howdoo and welcome.

Oil is probably a cam cover gasket.  Not the hardest or most expensive job, but needs confirmation.

Water leak could be a hose but probably the heater bypass valve.  Again, needs confirmation.

Car cutting out could be linked to the cam cover gaskets allowing oil into the plug leads....

Bottom line - please update your profile with car. location, etc and quite possible someone could look it over for you and give a fai assessment of whats wrong then we can take it from there...

 :y
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Omega man 2 on 03 January 2009, 22:24:19
I read your first post. A leak from the back of a v6 is almost certianly the HBV.

Leaking cam covers and HBV should be done in one go to make it easier on yourself 8-)

But paperclip it first before you even open the bonnet.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 January 2009, 22:25:33
As above and you could also do the paperclip test ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 05 January 2009, 09:42:17
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Howdoo and welcome.

Oil is probably a cam cover gasket.  Not the hardest or most expensive job, but needs confirmation.

Water leak could be a hose but probably the heater bypass valve.  Again, needs confirmation.

Car cutting out could be linked to the cam cover gaskets allowing oil into the plug leads....

Bottom line - please update your profile with car. location, etc and quite possible someone could look it over for you and give a fai assessment of whats wrong then we can take it from there...

 :y


Cheers to all for the advice, this seems to be the general concensis on whats probably wrong. Going to paperclip it today, I'll post the result up (whats the best way to upload a video so I can show you all the result ?

Question, when you say needs confirming. If I take pictures of where the leaks are coming from would that help ?
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 05 January 2009, 12:17:36
OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Ironingboard on 05 January 2009, 12:24:12
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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

Ketho, where abouts in Edinburgh are you I have some experience of these things give me a PM and we can arrange to meet up for a look
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Matchless on 05 January 2009, 12:51:55
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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

19 = Get a new crank sensor fitted asap or be prepared to walk home. (current wisdom is to only use genuine vx sensor, ebay ones seem unreliable)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Elite Pete on 05 January 2009, 13:11:14
As Matchless says ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1174321688
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 05 January 2009, 14:27:40
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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

Ketho, where abouts in Edinburgh are you I have some experience of these things give me a PM and we can arrange to meet up for a look

dropped you a PM.

I forgot to add at the start that my window washers don't work. Is there a general fault that happens with these ? I think it might be the pump (there is 2 as one is the headlight washers but only 1 makes a noise. but no water comes out of either.) I had planned to sort this but reading haynes it seems like the whole front of the car needs to come off. So any advice before I try that would be great.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: CDX_Steve on 05 January 2009, 14:48:01
You can just pull the washer pump out, take off the grill, only 3 screws, it's the small one ;)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ians on 05 January 2009, 14:48:26
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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

Ketho, where abouts in Edinburgh are you I have some experience of these things give me a PM and we can arrange to meet up for a look

dropped you a PM.

I forgot to add at the start that my window washers don't work. Is there a general fault that happens with these ? I think it might be the pump (there is 2 as one is the headlight washers but only 1 makes a noise. but no water comes out of either.) I had planned to sort this but reading haynes it seems like the whole front of the car needs to come off. So any advice before I try that would be great.

If all four jets have stopped its probably the filter at the tank end.   There is a maintenance guide on how to deal with this, but you certainly don't have to remove bumpers etc.

If just a couple of the jets have stopped, clean them out with a pin.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: bighed on 05 January 2009, 18:36:22
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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

19 = Get a new crank sensor fitted asap or be prepared to walk home. (current wisdom is to only use genuine vx sensor, ebay ones seem unreliable)

I get code 19 with mine with engine off but was told its because of that. Engine off???
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: MarkG on 05 January 2009, 18:58:45
Without engine running you should get 31 (not 19)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: Matchless on 05 January 2009, 21:20:30
31 = no signal
19 = poor quality signal (noisy or intermittant)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 05 January 2009, 22:20:25
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You can just pull the washer pump out, take off the grill, only 3 screws, it's the small one ;)

thank god - i have put that off for months cos of it being a scary job.
And I take it the big one is for the headlight washers ?



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OK done the paperclip, got back 19 - Incorrect RPM Signal.

is that just cos the engine wasn't on or was that the fault when it was cutting out ?

19 = Get a new crank sensor fitted asap or be prepared to walk home. (current wisdom is to only use genuine vx sensor, ebay ones seem unreliable)

I get code 19 with mine with engine off but was told its because of that. Engine off???

Went to try with the engine running - but battery is to flat to start it (left sitting for to long)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: bighed on 07 January 2009, 08:28:10
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Without engine running you should get 31 (not 19)

Ah maybe thats it. lol. Will double check later  ::)
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: ketho on 15 May 2009, 19:02:00
So I know its been a while since the original post with this problem but finally got round to starting fixing things.

I desided the first thing to do was the crank sensor, since at least I would be able to start the car.

Having replaced it with the correct one, biggest hassel was finding the right cable, job its self it easy as. However, now the engine turns, which is an improvment on before but doesn't run. Initally I presumed this is cos I was jumping it with a metro so would be a lack of power, but having tried my mates 2.0 honda something the problem continues. The oil leak has left some oil sitting in the plug wells dispite my best efforts to clear them completly (intending to do this along with new plugs when changing the cam gaskets), would this effect the leads getting the spark to the plugs or is this going to be a fuel issue.

Basically I don't want to spend a few hundred on parts before knowing that the engine turns. so any advice on how to figure out what the issue is stopping the engine running would be a massive help and would be massivly appretiated.
Title: Re: Whats wrong with it ???
Post by: feeutfo on 15 May 2009, 21:11:41
bit dusty in here.

Anyway, with crank sensor replaced try paper clip test again to confirm the fix. If no other codes would suggest missfires and ignition problems. But test the battery output first, guide in maintenance or at least give it a charge over night. If its not breaked after all that time idle ill be suprised.

While your in maintenance have a brouse. You will find a guide on fixing the cam cover gaskits, use genuine seals only, and cleaning the breathers, which is the cause of your oil leak, most likely. Hth