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Title: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 00:39:12
As above really, is a fired Tensioner (passinger side), is it an MOT failure??
Title: Re: Fiered Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: jonathanh on 10 June 2009, 08:26:36
can you give us a bit more of a clue here - what do you mean?
Title: Re: Fiered Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: Andy B on 10 June 2009, 08:35:04
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can you give us a bit more of a clue here - what do you mean?

seat belt pretensioner!  ;) ;) :y
Title: Re: Fiered Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 09:54:50
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can you give us a bit more of a clue here - what do you mean?

seat belt pretensioner!  ;) ;) :y

Thanks Andy, would help if I could type let alone spell.

So, seat belt pretensioner, if it’s been fired (gone off/ triggered/ the yellow warning bit is showing, etc), is it an MOT fail?
Title: Re: Fiered Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: Andy B on 10 June 2009, 10:21:04
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can you give us a bit more of a clue here - what do you mean?

seat belt pretensioner!  ;) ;) :y

Thanks Andy, would help if I could type let alone spell.

So, seat belt pretensioner, if it’s been fired (gone off/ triggered/ the yellow warning bit is showing, etc), is it an MOT fail?

Not sure. I know that your airbag light being on is NOT a failure.
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: unlucky alf on 10 June 2009, 10:27:32
yes it is a failure if the flag is showing but if you cut it off flush it isnt!!, strange i know but i had to cut mine off, mind you if you get in an accident the insurance might get funny about it. ;)
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: kcl on 10 June 2009, 12:39:31
Dunno the laws in GB but here it is a straight failure without any exception.

I personally would not mess and risk with the SRS systems, they are there for a good reason. And I would be very concerned why it is triggered, they do not go off themselves. And, in addition to your personal and/or passangers safety, as unlucky alf posted, you would get in deep shite with your insurance company in case of accident.

Don't get me wrong, not trying to be picky or anything else, just stated my point of view.  :y
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 13:25:29
Thanks for response everyone, thou still not sure about this, phoned a couple of MOT testers, one say's its a fail, another says depends how much of the Warning plastic is sticking out, could be an advisory.

Found this on the Web.

Some seat belts are fitted with pre-tensioners.
Once activated, a 'flag' or similar shows on the seat belt stalk.
In itself a seat belt that has had the pre-tensioner activated is NOT a reason for rejection.
The vehicle presenter should be advised.

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_510.htm

Issue Date 10th January 2005?
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: markey mark on 10 June 2009, 13:52:26
chop the flag off  :y
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: Omegatoy on 10 June 2009, 20:35:32
would guess it went off when you were unbolting seat or putting a seat in? its very common and makes you wnder what the heck happ >:(end
for future reference when you remove the plastic covers down by the side of the seat you will see the pretensioner, kind of looks like a mini shockabsorber, before unbolting the seat look very carefully at end of it you will find a red plastic tab or key usually held there by a plastic wire,this has to be slotted in to the tensioner to prevent it going off, and similarly when you have finished bolting the seat in pull the ley or tab back out again to arm the pretensioner, or it wont work!!! they can be swapped by the way!!!
Omegatoy
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 20:58:24
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chop the flag off  :y

Think thats what I'll do go's in for a test soon. Think my next question might be 'will it pass an MOT without a passingers seat'.  :y
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 20:59:54
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would guess it went off when you were unbolting seat or putting a seat in? its very common and makes you wnder what the heck happ >:(end
for future reference when you remove the plastic covers down by the side of the seat you will see the pretensioner, kind of looks like a mini shockabsorber, before unbolting the seat look very carefully at end of it you will find a red plastic tab or key usually held there by a plastic wire,this has to be slotted in to the tensioner to prevent it going off, and similarly when you have finished bolting the seat in pull the ley or tab back out again to arm the pretensioner, or it wont work!!! they can be swapped by the way!!!
Omegatoy

Bare that in mind, thanks.  :y
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: lee4206 on 10 June 2009, 21:06:46
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chop the flag off  :y

Think thats what I'll do go's in for a test soon. Think my next question might be 'will it pass an MOT without a passingers seat'.  :y

yep it will  and  it cant be failed on the flag showing(the info you found is correct).
lee
(mot tester)
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: zirk on 10 June 2009, 21:11:21
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chop the flag off  :y

Think thats what I'll do go's in for a test soon. Think my next question might be 'will it pass an MOT without a passingers seat'.  :y

yep it will  and  it cant be failed on the flag showing(the info you found is correct).
lee
(mot tester)

Thanks Lee  :y
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: HGV mechanic on 10 June 2009, 21:29:11
i have advised before, no problem should pass
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: gazsomega on 11 June 2009, 08:53:11
if the airbag light is on its a fail as there is a fault on the saftey system but its up to the tester at the end of the day how his been trained and how he feels about his testers lience that is a coment froma good mate of mine who is a mot tester
Title: Re: Fired Seat belt Pre Tensioner - MOT ?
Post by: Andy B on 11 June 2009, 09:29:44
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if the airbag light is on its a fail as there is a fault on the saftey system but its up to the tester at the end of the day how his been trained and how he feels about his testers lience that is a coment froma good mate of mine who is a mot tester

An air bag light on is NOT a failure. Infact, if you look here ... http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_510.htm you'll find
In itself a seat belt that has had the pre-tensioner activated is NOT a reason for rejection :y