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Title: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: bri cox on 19 June 2009, 02:55:34
hi all sorry if this question has been asked before i have just nicely got my second omega elite on a 51 plate i have been told that both of my front wish bones needs replaceing cos they are leaking oil and this is causeing my tyres to run off on the in side edge every time i brake is this true are they filled with oil for extra dampning or are they just a standerd bush and is the garage trying to con me kind regards bri
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: feeutfo on 19 June 2009, 05:32:30
its certainly a common issue re tire wear and wishbone play. But not sure about the oil part. If you have tire wear on the inside edge it would certainly suggest new parts needed. Have they given you a quote for this out of interest?

And the car will need full geometry set up once the work is done. See the oof map for a company nearest you, maybe someone knows the password for it?
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: dbug on 19 June 2009, 08:30:16
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hi all sorry if this question has been asked before i have just nicely got my second omega elite on a 51 plate i have been told that both of my front wish bones needs replaceing cos they are leaking oil and this is causeing my tyres to run off on the in side edge every time i brake is this true are they filled with oil for extra dampning or are they just a standerd bush and is the garage trying to con me kind regards bri

Wishbones are not oil filled :)
Could be shocks leaking or oil leaking onto wishbone rubbers ? :-/
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Agemo on 19 June 2009, 09:28:48
Hmmm, I have just replaced one of my wishbones because there was a lot of play in the rear bush, also, when I applied a crowbar, the bush actually "Squelched"! I assumed it had originally been filled with oil or Silicone. Perhaps mine has a leaking shock then, I do still have a "Clunking" noise from that side.  ::)
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: littleimp on 19 June 2009, 11:04:07
Did you replace the anti-roll bar link at the same time as these are a source for clunking too.
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: VXL V6 on 19 June 2009, 11:14:13
Well the pattern wishbones on mine certainly had some sort of oil leak from them on the first few weeks. Definately from the bush and not anywhere else. Can only assume it was something they used to fit the bushes into the arm at manufacture.



Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 June 2009, 11:38:09
The bushes are fluid filled.

And inside edge tyre wear is likely to be caused by incorrect camber
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Agemo on 19 June 2009, 13:40:15
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Did you replace the anti-roll bar link at the same time as these are a source for clunking too.
NO! That looks like a good place to start then. Thanks.  :y
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Agemo on 19 June 2009, 13:47:10
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The bushes are fluid filled
Thank you.  :y
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Dazzler on 19 June 2009, 15:37:08
Yep, just replaced mine again after 18months as the front bushes were leaking oil >:(
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Omegatoy on 19 June 2009, 15:47:28
bushes are fluid filled??????? the engine mountings have a fluid sac in them but the wishbones i dont think so as they are a type of void bush front  and a solid bush rear??
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Dazzler on 19 June 2009, 17:40:19
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bushes are fluid filled??????? the engine mountings have a fluid sac in them but the wishbones i dont think so as they are a type of void bush front  and a solid bush rear??

I have no other way of explaining the oil around the front bush because the whole surrounding area is bone dry :-/
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: VXL V6 on 19 June 2009, 18:33:11
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bushes are fluid filled??????? the engine mountings have a fluid sac in them but the wishbones i dont think so as they are a type of void bush front  and a solid bush rear??

I have no other way of explaining the oil around the front bush because the whole surrounding area is bone dry :-/

Exactly the same as mine. Where did you get the wishbones from?

Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: dbug on 19 June 2009, 19:21:47
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The bushes are fluid filled.

And inside edge tyre wear is likely to be caused by incorrect camber

I stand corrected  :-[  You live and learn :-/
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: bri cox on 19 June 2009, 22:16:34
thank you very much for you help everybody my car will be back on the road on monday  ;D
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 June 2009, 22:32:32
They are fluid filled....I know, I disected some!  ;D
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Andy B on 19 June 2009, 23:11:50
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They are fluid filled....I know, I disected some!  ;D

Both OE & pattern?
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 20 June 2009, 00:11:06
thought the engine mounts were silly-cone filled, would be kinda cool to think the wishbones are too, but never disected them. I'll have a slash in the scrapyard, to see.

After I've had a slash i'll probably cut up some suspension bushes too  :y
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: JasonH on 20 June 2009, 11:29:45
I think some are fluid filled and some aren't. I've replaced my wishbones a few times, sometimes there's some fluid leaking out. Other times the bush has disintegrated but is dry.
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Agemo on 20 June 2009, 17:10:09
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Did you replace the anti-roll bar link at the same time as these are a source for clunking too.
I have done now, job done.  :y
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: lez on 03 July 2009, 18:27:23
Ok everyone Bri's car has arrived at my house, for some reason I seem to have alot of mechanical knowledge on suspension, must be something to do with what i drive...

Anyhow, taking off the drivers wheel, I notice a bolt that goes through the bush at the rear of the wishbone, it has a nut at the bottom, and possible a bolt that is hidden in the subframe, it would need to 'go up' to release the rear of the wishbone.

Question: do we need to drop front subframe to change wishbones, to get to that bolt?

/not a vauxhall owner(yet), but more time spent under my car that what it deserves...
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: Grumpy on 03 July 2009, 19:20:03
Have a read of this.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152986949
Title: Re: oil filled front wish bones
Post by: lez on 03 July 2009, 19:21:48
Thanks, but i just posted about what i think may have been is clunk problem from day one...

see the thread..
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1246645225