Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Pete Elite on 15 July 2009, 23:29:20

Title: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 15 July 2009, 23:29:20
Hi all,
       I've just changed(a job I've been intending to do for quite a while now)the non-adjustable steering column on my 96 Elite for an adjustable one and what a difference it makes to the comfort and driving position :).
 I used the info. given in the maintenance section supplied by matchless([size=14]thanks matchless[/size]) which was very easy to follow and was a surprisingly straight forward job to carry out and well worth doing if your a bulkier chap such as me ::).

   On another matter, i haven't started the engine for about 3 1/2 months and would like to turn the engine over without it actually starting so as to push some oil round, so can someone let me know the best way to do this and if you think It's necessary :-/ :question.

         Thanks,
                    Pete.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Agemo on 15 July 2009, 23:40:34
Glad the column job went well, they are brilliant. As for the turning over thing, I am sure it is a good idea,Use the starting handl - Oh no, we don't have thise any more!!!  I would have thought a spanner on the crank would be the best way. Any opinions?
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Toby on 16 July 2009, 00:01:08
Can you not take your immobiliser chip out of your key?

Think the engine cranks but won't start
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:01:59
Thanks Agemo, yes certainly a worthwhile mod.

 As for turning the engine over and using a starting handle, are you talking from experience, if so your showing you age now ;D.
 I was thinking because of the cats i don't want to just turn it over without it starting but still pumping petrol in to the cylinders, and was wondering if there was a way to do it :question.

        Thanks,
                   Pete :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:03:36
Quote
Can you not take your immobiliser chip out of your key?

Think the engine cranks but won't start

 As above Toby :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: unlucky alf on 16 July 2009, 00:11:18
nice one on the column pete, i`ll be doing mine soon as im about to buy one, so was there anything that was a bit tricky?, ive still to locate the plastic cowling though so if anyone reading this can oblige :y & as for turning the engine over i would pull the fuse to the fuel pump :y
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Toby on 16 July 2009, 00:13:16
Quote
Quote
Can you not take your immobiliser chip out of your key?

Think the engine cranks but won't start

 As above Toby :y.

I see, I was under the impression that when the immobiliser kicked in it would cut the fuel supply. Fuse idea sounds better though  :y
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:30:42
Quote
nice one on the column pete, i`ll be doing mine soon as im about to buy one, so was there anything that was a bit tricky?, ive still to locate the plastic cowling though so if anyone reading this can oblige :y & as for turning the engine over i would pull the fuse to the fuel pump :y

  Thanks Alf, Certainly was worth the effort and as for any tricky bits, taking the electric plug off from the left hand side of the column(round plug other end of ignition switch)place a flat bladed screwdriver or similar between joint(1st joint in from the left)and prise it apart a bit at a time, it will come off eventually :y.
  To remove the middle support bracket bolt i removed the instrument pod which made it a doddle to access :y.
  The sheer bolt i removed by just tapping it round with a cold chisel and removed it with my fingers after 1 full turn :y.
    HTH Alf :).

      As for the fuse do you know which one this is and is it under the column or the bonnet :question.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:33:00
Quote
Quote
Quote
Can you not take your immobiliser chip out of your key?

Think the engine cranks but won't start

 As above Toby :y.

I see, I was under the impression that when the immobiliser kicked in it would cut the fuel supply. Fuse idea sounds better though  :y


       I'm not sure to be honest Toby but as you say Alf's idea of the fuse sounds the way to go, thanks anyway for your advise :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: unlucky alf on 16 July 2009, 00:38:01
according to my handbook it says fuse 18 -20amp & cheers for the tip :y :y
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:40:44
Quote
according to my handbook it says fuse 18 -20amp & cheers for the tip :y :y

   Thanks for that Alf and hope you get on alright with your column change :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: unlucky alf on 16 July 2009, 00:45:34
Quote
Quote
according to my handbook it says fuse 18 -20amp & cheers for the tip :y :y

   Thanks for that Alf and hope you get on alright with your column change :y.
its me your talking about ;D, be prepared for another of my epic tales :D :D
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 July 2009, 00:49:30
Quote
Quote
Quote
according to my handbook it says fuse 18 -20amp & cheers for the tip :y :y

   Thanks for that Alf and hope you get on alright with your column change :y.
its me your talking about ;D, be prepared for another of my epic tales :D :D

       Oh yeah, sorry Alf I'll await your full report ;D ;D.

   PS. If you weren't so far away i would have gladly come round and give you a hand, don't mind helping when i know what I'm doing(hopefully) ;D.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: LFF64 on 16 July 2009, 09:30:42
Not knowing the full story , but why cant you start and run the engine  :y
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Agemo on 16 July 2009, 09:44:05
Good point about pulling the fuse, never thought about pumping fuel into the cats. I was also going to ask about why you don't want to run the engine. Oh and the starting handle - had one on my HA Viva, so yes, showing my age all right.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 17 July 2009, 00:43:42
Quote
Not knowing the full story , but why cant you start and run the engine  :y

 It's not that i can't start the engine, it's that i haven't turned the engine over for a few months and didn't want to start it until I'd turned the engine over a few times to get some oil circulated around but doing so without pumping petrol into the cats which is not good for them :).
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: semisheen on 17 July 2009, 00:59:49
I would have thought the quickest & best way to get the oil circulating would actually be to start the car (on tickover ovbiously) turning it over with the starter motor with the plugs in will barley get the oil pressure over 7lbs to turn the oil light out and would doubht the cams would see any oil at all at that speed  :-/
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 17 July 2009, 01:06:31
I did pull the fuel pump fuse as suggested and turned it over about ten times, replaced fuse and it started 1st turn of the key with no rattles so accomplished what i wanted, so happy :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: semisheen on 17 July 2009, 01:08:30
Well thats all good them Pete .....it was just my opinion ...its what fourums are all about  :y
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 17 July 2009, 01:18:39
Quote
Well thats all good them Pete .....it was just my opinion ...its what fourums are all about  :y

  Sorry if you think i took what you said the wrong way :-[ as it seems you know more about the internal operations of an engine than i do, was just saying that i was happy with how it turned out doing it the way that was suggested to me because I'd already done it before your comment was read by me tonight :y.
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: semisheen on 17 July 2009, 01:21:46
NO NO NO ............i never thought that at all Pete
you got me sayin sorry now
Title: Re: Changed Steering Column To Adjustable.
Post by: Pete Elite on 17 July 2009, 01:32:28
Classic misunderstanding of the typed word ;D.