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Title: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 18:50:30
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Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: LFF64 on 17 August 2009, 18:53:56
Good at what  :D
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 19:08:38
mechanics .... not on here for a fella mate!!!
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Spearmint on 17 August 2009, 19:19:42
I'm in Corby though I only have tools for medium-ish sized jobs. Even then, I'm only just getting to grips with Diesel engines. Anything needing a proper engineering firms attention and it is no go.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: dbug on 17 August 2009, 19:25:24
Where are you and whats your problem mate?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 19:33:38
in wellingborough mate, my problem is the car is overheating,

so far i have,

done a coolant change (including fan on full)
took the scuttal off to check the HBV which seems in order
there are no leaks on the coolant is not dropping.
both top pipes are hot so dont think its the thermostat

just dont have either mega pennies or anything else i think i should check
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: dbug on 17 August 2009, 19:36:38
Try back flushing radiator mate.  You may need new radiator.

Assume you refilled with heater on max and fans on to shift air.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Spearmint on 17 August 2009, 19:36:58
Lol, I've got that snag and I've changed just about everything you can bar a new rad which looks in good nick.

It is certainly a PITA.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 19:56:23
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Try back flushing radiator mate.  You may need new radiator.

Assume you refilled with heater on max and fans on to shift air.


yeah refilled with the fans on, although i put the header cap back on the coolant.... not sure if that was right.

also is there a seperate cap for the radiator or is it all done through the coolant tank ?

is there any signs to look for on the radiator

Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: tunnie on 17 August 2009, 20:00:06
if you could update your avatar so it does't cover your post, i might be able to help  ;D
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 20:02:00
hows that tunnie
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: dbug on 17 August 2009, 20:02:41
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Try back flushing radiator mate.  You may need new radiator.

Assume you refilled with heater on max and fans on to shift air.


yeah refilled with the fans on, although i put the header cap back on the coolant.... not sure if that was right.

also is there a seperate cap for the radiator or is it all done through the coolant tank ?

is there any signs to look for on the radiator


Should run for a while with header cap off - and squeeze hoses to expell air.

No cap on rad - only on header tank.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: tunnie on 17 August 2009, 20:06:37
Thats much better  :y

So whats it showing on the dash?  Is it over pressurizing?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 20:13:56
nothing on the computer, the temp gauge will sit at just below 90 degrees then it will shoot in to 100 in the matter of minutes... fans kick in and will sit below 100 and stay there. although the fans inside the car will blow cold but i have no hot air  just not sure what else there is to try
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: tunnie on 17 August 2009, 20:22:48
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nothing on the computer, the temp gauge will sit at just below 90 degrees then it will shoot in to 100 in the matter of minutes... fans kick in and will sit below 100 and stay there. although the fans inside the car will blow cold but i have no hot air  just not sure what else there is to try

Suggests HBV is not functioning as it should, as that should shunt hot water into the heater matrix
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 20:32:53
i checked the hbv, couldnt see any signs of damage or leaks. is it a matter of taking it completly out and just replacing it ? ?

or is it a part you can clean up and re-use ?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 20:37:47
Are the 2 rubber pipes that lead to and from the HBV to the heater matrix getting hot?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 20:49:33
one of the pipes, the vacum pipe isnt getting hot but the hose going into it is.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 20:57:56
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one of the pipes, the vacum pipe isnt getting hot but the hose going into it is.
Just to the left of the HBV 2 pipes go into the bulkhead, check if they both get hot.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 20:59:40
ok will check them in the morning its to dark now, i take it that they should be hot then ? if there not does that mean the HBV might be shot ?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 21:05:48
I had a similar problem a while ago on an MV6. I removed the hoses and flushed the heater matrix until the water ran clear.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 21:07:06
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I had a similar problem a while ago on an MV6. I removed the hoses and flushed the heater matrix until the water ran clear.

do you mean remove the pipes to the right of the HBV you removed ?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 21:08:30
Just to add, if the heater matrix is bunged up then the cooling system has been neglected. I would remove the radiator and fill it with Fernox (central heating cleaner) and leave it over night, then flush it with water :y
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 21:09:38
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I had a similar problem a while ago on an MV6. I removed the hoses and flushed the heater matrix until the water ran clear.

do you mean remove the pipes to the right of the HBV you removed ?
The 2 pipes to the left of the HBV, the ones that go into the bulkhead.
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 21:32:04
when you say remove do you mean remove from the bulk head and let it drain onto the floor ? then re connect aand refill ?
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 21:41:22
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when you say remove do you mean remove from the bulk head and let it drain onto the floor ? then re connect aand refill ?
If you follow this guide to remove the pipes
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1185891036

once you've got them off push a garden hose onto the top pipe and flush until the water runs clear then do the same with the bottom pipe, then reconnect the hoses, refill the cooling system and run the engine with the filler cap off, heater on hot and squeeze the radiator hoses to shift any air, oh and make sure the car is on the level ;)
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 22:08:42
thanks elite, last question the garden hoses to i put it into the pipes i have disconnected on into the bulkhead where the pipes were
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 22:10:11
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thanks elite, last question the garden hoses to i put it into the pipes i have disconnected on into the bulkhead where the pipes were
The 2 alloy pipes coming out of the bulkhead :y
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 22:23:20
ok will do it in the morning - so basicall where the pipe was i  put the hose pipe and flush it until the water runs clear ..is that right
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 August 2009, 22:31:05
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ok will do it in the morning - so basicall where the pipe was i  put the hose pipe and flush it until the water runs clear ..is that right

Yes :y
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 22:31:19
Yep :)
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 22:33:16
pete you are a legend, thanks for you patience

is there a particular coolant flush you recommend
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 22:46:45
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pete you are a legend, thanks for you patience

is there a particular coolant flush you recommend
Try some Holts speedflush, its about a fiver from Halfords. I always use lots of water and them remove the rad and fill it with Fernox which is for household central heating systems but I wouldn't use it in an engine
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Charlies Dad on 17 August 2009, 22:57:03
is the red removal quite a straigh forward job, ie can i do it on my own or will i need an extra pair of hands
Title: Re: Any good guys local to Northants
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 August 2009, 22:58:30
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is the red removal quite a straigh forward job, ie can i do it on my own or will i need an extra pair of hands
Its just a bit fiddly but easy enough to do.