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Title: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 05 December 2007, 08:13:01
I know a Police man that drinks and drives. Should I shop him? If I do, can anything be done without him actually being caught-in-the-act? He doesn't actually live near me, but his ex does and he keeps getting drunk, getting in to his car and driving over to see her...which is 200 yards from where I live.

Over to you guys...

Paul.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Jimbob on 05 December 2007, 08:32:58
Think I would, but anonymously, can't see em taking it seriously though  >:(

Maybe let all his tyres down, note on the windscreen advising not to attempt drink driving again or there will be repurcussions ;)
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: holey head on 05 December 2007, 08:55:08
i personally would report him but just do it as a drink driver don't mention that he's a copper. just say there is a guy that is drunk just getting into his car!

they should turn up pretty quick.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Jay w on 05 December 2007, 09:00:11
yes, shop him in....not becuase he is a copper, because he is breaking the law
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: hotel21 on 05 December 2007, 09:18:17
http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Admin on 05 December 2007, 09:22:54
You have to do it.

As the others have said, report him as a general person drinking and driving.

Imagine how you will feel if you don't then one evening he comes round and kills a child in an accident...

Crimestoppers 0800 555 111
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 05 December 2007, 09:31:42
Right then...that was pretty much what I was expecting.

I'll give them a call today.

The copper in question was made a bit famous a few months ago (not on purpose), so I expect it might hit the newspapers if he is caught. I'm not going to say who it is though.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 December 2007, 09:49:32
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I know a Police man that drinks and drives. Should I shop him? If I do, can anything be done without him actually being caught-in-the-act? He doesn't actually live near me, but his ex does and he keeps getting drunk, getting in to his car and driving over to see her...which is 200 yards from where I live.

Over to you guys...

Paul.


Too bloody right you should >:(

If you don't let down all of his tyres
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 05 December 2007, 10:32:08
Done. I was put through to his station and spoke to his Super.

I'll just wait to see if there will be any response now.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Jimbob on 05 December 2007, 10:34:35
Well done, least you won't have any worries that you could have done more.
Did they know it was you, or anonymous?
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 05 December 2007, 11:55:30
I left my details...and the name of the wife's friend that he goes to see.

He is scum.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2007, 12:07:33
Done well.. :y

If happens something you will not feel guilty at least..

Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 05 December 2007, 12:09:03
Don't report him as a police officer - report him as a citizen.

Going to his boss may have no (or negative) results!
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 December 2007, 12:16:55
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Don't report him as a police officer - report him as a citizen.

Going to his boss may have no (or negative) results!

Was just going to say.. Perfect opportunity for it to be "dealt with" under the radar.

If it doesn't get sorted, make an anonymous call giving the reg. no. and location. If they pull him it'll be less easy to brush under the carpet.

Kevin
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Jimbob on 05 December 2007, 12:20:46
Hope it goes ok (and you don't start getting pulled for no real reason)
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2007, 12:26:38
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Don't report him as a police officer - report him as a citizen.

Going to his boss may have no (or negative) results!

Was just going to say.. Perfect opportunity for it to be "dealt with" under the radar.

If it doesn't get sorted, make an anonymous call giving the reg. no. and location. If they pull him it'll be less easy to brush under the carpet.

Kevin

Yep..Agreed..Theres a chance that they will do nothing unless they catch..And as a general rule they may protect someone from their job..
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Danny on 05 December 2007, 15:39:18
shame i wasnt here earlier to reply

would have been so much better to ignore his job title and just give the police a tip off as to when he's likely to get in his car and drive, police DO take drink driving more seriously, and would probably sit in a side street and wait for him to drive away
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: omegaman2 on 05 December 2007, 15:49:59
just give reg number and report a drunk driver--------result
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Crazydad on 05 December 2007, 16:09:57
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You have to do it.

As the others have said, report him as a general person drinking and driving.

Imagine how you will feel if you don't then one evening he comes round and kills a child in an accident...

Crimestoppers 0800 555 111


My point exactly you have no other choice but to do this :-?
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 December 2007, 16:25:26
I have this thing about regular drink drivers that means I hate them 100x more than a one off.

One off you can sort of think - it is a one off, but a regular needs his licence shredding (permanently) >:(

However attitudes do vary and some people think driving while pissed is acceptable. (even if they would never do it themselves)
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Missy_MV6 on 05 December 2007, 16:44:20
Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(

He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Crazydad on 05 December 2007, 16:49:38
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Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(

He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x
Your Avatar mesmerises me ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: shyboy on 05 December 2007, 17:02:13
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Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(
He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x

Try reporting the details to the local press!
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 December 2007, 18:25:25
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Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(

He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x


Set fire to the car - preferable with him in it!
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Missy_MV6 on 05 December 2007, 20:24:45
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Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(

He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x


Set fire to the car - preferable with him in it!


Lol Give him the softly softly approach then  ;D
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Missy_MV6 on 05 December 2007, 20:25:18
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Where I live I don't know if the Police take Drink Driving that serioulsy.My mam unfortunatley knows a chap who drinks and drives all the time.The last time he did this she warned him that if he did get into his van she was going to ring the police.He ignored her a drove whilst really drunk.She immediatley rang the Police station with his van details etc and the Police did diddly squat >:(

He sold his van and bought a car and he still drinks and drives.

Angie x
Your Avatar mesmerises me ::) ::) ;D

Well thank you kind sir  ;)
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2007, 20:32:14
One thing that must be taken into account...Alcoholics never give up..The only way is to take the license away..
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Revokev on 05 December 2007, 20:46:47
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One thing that must be taken into account...Alcoholics never give up..The only way is to take the license away..
This would still not stop some of them,you have to stop them physically driving, maybe ::)
Take their hands,legs or head(in serious cases) away :y
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 December 2007, 20:51:01
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One thing that must be taken into account...Alcoholics never give up..The only way is to take the license away..
This would still not stop some of them,you have to stop them physically driving, maybe ::)
Take their hands,legs or head(in serious cases) away :y

Wheres the saw ?  ;D
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 December 2007, 21:52:52
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One thing that must be taken into account...Alcoholics never give up..The only way is to take the license away..


No medical treatment and jail
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Markjay on 05 December 2007, 22:42:05
Many (many) years ago, we had an arrangement of a lorry driver on duty. On one ocassion, the duty driver's services were required (which was rare, mostly the duty drivers were not actually called) and I noticed that he had a strong smell of alcohol on his breath. It was only a very short drive and I said nothing.

A few months later I heard that the same driver while being on duty again, took a scooter for a ride around the car park wearing no crash helmet. The scooter wasn't his, and he was not an experienced rider (though technically his driving license allowed him to ride it). He crashed into one of the parked lorries at speed, and was thrown forward, his head hitting the lorry's front bumber.

He never regained conciousness. He was in Intensive Care for a week before they switched the machines off. I went to see him, his head was swollen and bandaged, and his family around him were absolutely devastated (he was a young lad, in his early twenties).

I never learnt if he was over the limit on that particular day when he took the scooter, but to this day I can't help thinking that he may have been, and that had I said something beforehand he would have been sacked but would still be alive today.

Do what you feel is right....






Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 06 December 2007, 08:10:32
Well, it turns out, he has been reported before, but never caught. There is nothing they can do until he is caught in the act. He is however, being watched now (I have other friends in the Police).

To quote one of the funniest men ever...
All drink drivers should be "...rounded up, put in a field AND BOMB THE B'STARDS!!!!!"

He will go to his ex's house again whilst drunk. I have left specific instructions for her to ring me if he does. I will personally dial 999 and go round their (it's only round the corner) and sit on him till the police arrive (I am 18 stone).
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Jay w on 06 December 2007, 09:26:59
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Many (many) years ago, we had an arrangement of a lorry driver on duty. On one ocassion, the duty driver's services were required (which was rare, mostly the duty drivers were not actually called) and I noticed that he had a strong smell of alcohol on his breath. It was only a very short drive and I said nothing.

A few months later I heard that the same driver while being on duty again, took a scooter for a ride around the car park wearing no crash helmet. The scooter wasn't his, and he was not an experienced rider (though technically his driving license allowed him to ride it). He crashed into one of the parked lorries at speed, and was thrown forward, his head hitting the lorry's front bumber.

He never regained conciousness. He was in Intensive Care for a week before they switched the machines off. I went to see him, his head was swollen and bandaged, and his family around him were absolutely devastated (he was a young lad, in his early twenties).

I never learnt if he was over the limit on that particular day when he took the scooter, but to this day I can't help thinking that he may have been, and that had I said something beforehand he would have been sacked but would still be alive today.

Do what you feel is right....








Hindsight is a very valuble thing.....

What if you had shopped him in and he lost his licence, his livelyhood and his home? worse case scenario he ends up homeless......



Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: holey head on 06 December 2007, 10:20:05
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Many (many) years ago, we had an arrangement of a lorry driver on duty. On one ocassion, the duty driver's services were required (which was rare, mostly the duty drivers were not actually called) and I noticed that he had a strong smell of alcohol on his breath. It was only a very short drive and I said nothing.

A few months later I heard that the same driver while being on duty again, took a scooter for a ride around the car park wearing no crash helmet. The scooter wasn't his, and he was not an experienced rider (though technically his driving license allowed him to ride it). He crashed into one of the parked lorries at speed, and was thrown forward, his head hitting the lorry's front bumber.

He never regained conciousness. He was in Intensive Care for a week before they switched the machines off. I went to see him, his head was swollen and bandaged, and his family around him were absolutely devastated (he was a young lad, in his early twenties).

I never learnt if he was over the limit on that particular day when he took the scooter, but to this day I can't help thinking that he may have been, and that had I said something beforehand he would have been sacked but would still be alive today.

Do what you feel is right....








Hindsight is a very valuble thing.....

What if you had shopped him in and he lost his licence, his livelyhood and his home? worse case scenario he ends up homeless......




but at least he'd of been alive. but no matter what you would of done dd's will always dd even if they lose their license they will still do it!
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 December 2007, 10:23:01
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dd's will always dd even if they lose their license they will still do it!

Yep. It seems there are those who retain the small amount of common sense required, even when drunk, and those who don't. Not much you can do if you don't, other than decide that drinking's not for you (unlikely).

Kevin
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Paulus on 06 December 2007, 10:53:32
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Many (many) years ago, we had an arrangement of a lorry driver on duty. On one ocassion, the duty driver's services were required (which was rare, mostly the duty drivers were not actually called) and I noticed that he had a strong smell of alcohol on his breath. It was only a very short drive and I said nothing.

A few months later I heard that the same driver while being on duty again, took a scooter for a ride around the car park wearing no crash helmet. The scooter wasn't his, and he was not an experienced rider (though technically his driving license allowed him to ride it). He crashed into one of the parked lorries at speed, and was thrown forward, his head hitting the lorry's front bumber.

He never regained conciousness. He was in Intensive Care for a week before they switched the machines off. I went to see him, his head was swollen and bandaged, and his family around him were absolutely devastated (he was a young lad, in his early twenties).

I never learnt if he was over the limit on that particular day when he took the scooter, but to this day I can't help thinking that he may have been, and that had I said something beforehand he would have been sacked but would still be alive today.

Do what you feel is right....








Hindsight is a very valuble thing.....

What if you had shopped him in and he lost his licence, his livelyhood and his home? worse case scenario he ends up homeless......




It would serve him right. He's not married, he has no kids and he's a complete prat. I have received word through the grapevine that he is very close to losing his job...my complaint was not the only one.
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Markjay on 06 December 2007, 19:08:01
Well he wouldn't have thanked me if I shopped him.... and would never accept that I saved his life.  :(

I should still have done it though.  :'(

That was some 28 years ago.


Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: nij on 06 December 2007, 22:31:49
I'd love to buy a cheap legal car off ebay for around £100 and put my no claims protection on it and have a little bump with this police man chap in a quiet place whilst he's way over the limit and then phone the police and tell them he stinks of alcohol, even if its my fault accidents happen all the time and it doesnt affect my no claims but hopefully gets a drink driver in a serious bit of trouble, which he deserves, police or not, drink drivers in my opinion are scum!   >:(
Title: Re: What should I do??? Advice needed
Post by: Golfbuddy on 06 December 2007, 22:35:38
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Well he wouldn't have thanked me if I shopped him.... and would never accept that I saved his life.  :(

I should still have done it though.  :'(

That was some 28 years ago.



No point dwelling on it mate. Chances are you saved someone elses life by not giving him the chance to drive on the roads in that state. If he was prepared to do it that time then he would have done it again.