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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Boiler Man on 28 September 2009, 21:04:07
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Hi Guys
Wondered if someone could give me some advice.
My older Omega 99 2.0 Ltr Dti Estate has always worn the front tyres unevenly on the insides.
I have had tracking done in the past and it hasn't made the slightest differance.
Lately it has gone really bad and worn the insides completley and hardly wearing the outsides.
I've also just noticed a slight pull to the side on braking. :o
Obviosly there is something wrong. I've read a number of threads that seem to have conflicting advice.
Some say Wishbones and few say Front Spring Wear.
The car has done 200,000 miles. I've had the car since 80,000. I'm sure it could be a number of things. But where should I start? :-/
I dont want to spend a fortune on it due to the age and mileage. But it means the wife will be on shanky's pony until I can afford a replacment :( and be borrowing mine :'(
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It needs a full geo set up done.
WIM is your friend about £60 if i remember correctly ;)
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When mine wore on the inner edges it was very badly worn wishbones, not too hard to replace, but then the geometry needs a proper set up. It is the camber that causes the inner edge wear.
HTH
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When mine wore on the inner edges it was very badly worn wishbones, not too hard to replace, but then the geometry needs a proper set up. It is the camber that causes the inner edge wear.
HTH
Was yours pulling on braking at all?
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More like "wandering" than pulling !!!
I took it to WIM (tad far for you I know) to have a full geometry setup before fitting new tyres, they checked the car and said no setup and no tyres today ... you need new wishbones !!! They did not charge for that check or the advice. !! I did the wishbones and took it back, they checked my work :y :y did the setup :y :y and sold me some tyres at very good prices.
The drive home was like being in a different car ;) ;) ;) ;)
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as others said, shoulder wear is camber. Tracking or 4 wheel alignment is a waste of cash
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Thanks for the advice.
I've had a look at the Wishbone Replacement Guide.
But is it obvious when you inspect them that the bushes are gone?
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It was obvious when the guy at WIM showed me !!!
He put a tyre lever in where the rubber bushes are and pushed .... the whole thing moved with no efort at all, and bits of rubber fell out !!!
I guess that the amount of movement v amount of push is an acquired skill .. but it was pretty conclusive on mine !!
Maybe one of the more techie guys can give a better indication of how mauch movement is aceptable.
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as others said, shoulder wear is camber. Tracking or 4 wheel alignment is a waste of cash
Thanks The Boy :y
I'm sure after advice from you guys, it proberbly is camber, do you think it is more likely to be a parts replacement job rather than just adjustment? :-/
As Entwood says it's quite a trek for me, only to find I need new Wishbones or Springs.
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The way the camber is adjusted it can only go "off" if you sideswipe a kerb so hard you would have bent something IMHO !!!
My guess is wishbones replacement :)
I got mine from AutoVaux .. cost £125 for both, new bolts and delivery.
:)
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Once you've had your wishbones fitted give Nigel Langs a try, they are very good :y
http://www.nigellangsgarage.co.uk/
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Cheers Guys :y
I'll have a go at doing them myself. What about going the way of new bushes? :-/
Thanks Pete, Bolton is a bit closer :)
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It is possible you just need new bushes, maybe even just one, but you still have the same job to do PLUS fitting the bushes with a ten tonne press, most of us stick new wishbones on. Not a bad job. It may also be worth comparing your camber with another, it could be that far out that it's obvious!
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Take it to a different tyre place and have them check the tracking.
Its possible the muppet at the previous place set you up for toe out (as per front wheel drive) instead of toe in.
Happened to me once,the guy read of the specs for the car and ignored the 'toe in' part-he didnt know what it meant!
eddie
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Cheers Guys :y
I'll have a go at doing them myself. What about going the way of new bushes? :-/
Thanks Pete, Bolton is a bit closer :)
http://www.powerflex.co.uk/
How I changed mine:
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/Turkpix/?action=view¤t=HowtofitFrontPoly-Bush.flv
Previous Poly-Bush thread:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252535002/13#13
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The way the camber is adjusted it can only go "off" if you sideswipe a kerb so hard you would have bent something IMHO !!!
My guess is wishbones replacement :)
I got mine from AutoVaux .. cost £125 for both, new bolts and delivery.
:)
Nah.....it can go 'off' as the suspension ages and the springs weaken.
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I recently changed the front wishbones and droplinks and the passenger side wheel has got a bit too much camber. I am going to have it setup on Saturday, I will be interested to see how much difference it makes to the drive!
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The way the camber is adjusted it can only go "off" if you sideswipe a kerb so hard you would have bent something IMHO !!!
My guess is wishbones replacement :)
I got mine from AutoVaux .. cost £125 for both, new bolts and delivery.
:)
Nah.....it can go 'off' as the suspension ages and the springs weaken.
So how could you find out if it's the Suspension or Springs Mark? :-/
and what can be done to correct it?
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Any chance Mark or someone, could advise on how to tell if the springs are shot? :-/ :-/
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Spooky !
I had EXACTLY the same problem about 2 weeks ago.
WISHBONES had had it.
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exactly the same as mine, on the drivers side, the inner edge of tyre was down to the steel wire, rest of tyre had great tread on..wishbone bushes on that side were truly gone
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what is CAMBER ?
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what is CAMBER ?
It is a measure of whether the wheel leans in or out.
Positive camber is when the top of the wheel is further from the centreline of the car than the bottom.
Omega front wheels seem to have varying degrees of negative camber (which increases as the springs age and allow the car to settle and also as bushes wear).
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Any chance Mark or someone, could advise on how to tell if the springs are shot? :-/ :-/
Springs age......its a fact and no real issue.
But, as they age the ride height falls slightly and the suspension dynamics change....and hence the camber goes out.
get it set to -1deg 10' and all will be good again. :y
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exactly the same as mine, on the drivers side, the inner edge of tyre was down to the steel wire, rest of tyre had great tread on..wishbone bushes on that side were truly gone
Which would knock the camber out.....again, it really needs checking an setting correctly :y
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sorry guys for bump up but I dont want to start another thread with simmilar thing - cause mine starts to wear the passenger front tyre on the outside and pulling to that way all the time now ,slightly but pulling. its going even worse on bumpy road - I can't manage to keep straigt direction -just playing from kerb to kerb :( Its like finghting with mad cow :o. are this wishbones as well ao something else like track rod ends? i tried to look there but there is no sign of any damage or wear except the tyre. suggestions?