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Title: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 16:56:02
Story so far car starts but when put in drive won't rev up and took ages to start moving forward, little car with spanner symbol on. Get car off drive rob gf's car and go to work, got home thinking i'll top the atf and see if thats the problem, but now car starts sounds rough slight knocking sound then ok. Still won't rev in gear but eml on instead of other warning light. CAr moves forward then conks out, does start but sounds like shite then dies.

Any body any advice or maybe have a code reader in the blackburn area quite willing to pay for someones time just really need help guys as this is my normal work car (don't know how much longer i can stand the 206) ;D

Thanks in advance dave. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: Gaffers on 05 October 2009, 17:57:31
Sounds like it could be the DIS pack, an easy fix, takes about 2 hours if it's your first one :y
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 18:32:27
How would i check for this my mechanical knowledge isn't the best and if i need a new dis pack how much and from where?

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: tmx on 05 October 2009, 18:36:19
the DIS Pack wont light the EML on the older Non OBD 2 cars dunno about the facelifts
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 October 2009, 18:45:15
DIS pack is a poison rouge.......

Does it tickover ok?

Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 18:48:27
No at first it was ok when in nuetral and it seemed to rev freely but now it takes a few turns to start then really rough with a knocking sound almost revs up a bit then dies?
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: tunnie on 05 October 2009, 19:20:41
am i the only one thinking its cam sensor!
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: Gaffers on 05 October 2009, 19:23:52
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DIS pack is a poison rouge.......

Does it tickover ok?


2 s' in poisson :y
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 19:48:12
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DIS pack is a poison rouge.......

Does it tickover ok?


2 s' in poisson :y
And none in "hareng" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: rustym95 on 05 October 2009, 19:56:55
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How would i check for this my mechanical knowledge isn't the best and if i need a new dis pack how much and from where?

Thanks for the help.
DIS Pack £38 from dealer.
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: Drinky on 05 October 2009, 20:08:52
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am i the only one thinking its cam sensor!


Very very similiar symptoms to what i had on my 2.2 and that was a cam sensor  :y

£114 retail
£83 trade club
£52 staff rates
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2009, 20:09:37
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DIS pack is a poison rouge.......

Does it tickover ok?


2 s' in poisson :y
Dont think so. ;) ::) :D
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 20:20:09
Right just got car home it was abandonded round the corner, after having left it for a couple of hours she started up bit rough but then revved ok until put it in drive. limped her home 200yds just about to back in drive then died again and won't turn over now?

Any ideas guys :question
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: dbr on 05 October 2009, 20:34:43
2 s' in poisson 
sounds fishy to me
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 20:35:51
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am i the only one thinking its cam sensor!
I`d go with Tunnie on this one
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 20:37:57
OK is there a sure fire way of finding out if its the CAM sensor?
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 20:39:41
Only by getting the codes read. You could try removing sensor and giving it a good clean. Has been known to give a temporary reprieve :y

What year is the facelift. Some of the very first batch of 2.2`s could be pedal tricked for the codes
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 20:42:20
Sorry to sound thick but were is it located, look like etc anybody in the north west with a code reader? Or how much should i spend on one if i need to buy? Make model advised?
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 20:44:43
Looking at front of engine. The wire that disappears inside the front of the plastic cover with "Ecotec" wrote on it connects to the cam sensor. Cambelt cover off, move cable tray away, one bolt holding sensor in :y
First pic, small red circle at front of "Ecotec" cover, you can see the cable http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225024176 :y
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 20:46:52
Thanks Rob its a 2001 Y plate if that helps.
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 20:48:44
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Thanks Rob its a 2001 Y plate if that helps.
Too late. Some of the "V" `99 were do-able until VX put a software upgrade in :'(
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: tunnie on 05 October 2009, 21:03:17
my 2.2 is on a X and it can't be pedal tricked.

From what you describe it sounds very much like the cam sensor, it could also be a failed coil pack, is there any oil in the plugs? How many miles does it have on it?
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 21:50:33
Hi tunnie not checked plugs will do first thing in morning, 69K on clock timing belt and tensioners done at 50K and yes i checked with the garage that did it i bought the car with 60 on it 3 month back. Managed to start her up again and back on to drive so its now level and will check atf level 2moro.

would the CAM sensor cause the problems with the transmission?

Anything else i need to check?
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: tunnie on 05 October 2009, 21:58:33
My coil pack started to fail at 118k, so unless yours had some serious abuse i would lean more towards cam sensor. From what you describe there are no transmission issues, its the cam sensor.

When mine failed it refused to rev, engine ran lumpy, mash the pedal to the floor, nothing. Restart, reved a bit, but barley moved, like it was running on 2/3 pots.

The replacement sensor should be a GM one, had quite a few reported issues with pattern sensors.

Get the codes read first, but my money is on that sensor  :y
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: davethediver on 05 October 2009, 22:07:37
Will do tunnie just need to find someone local with a code reader don't want to order a sensor from the stealers to find out its not that. The only reason i mention the transmission is that when it has started up she revs quite freely when in neutral but just no go when in drive or reverse???
Title: Re: Omega Dead
Post by: RobG on 05 October 2009, 22:13:42
Cam sensor failing on the 2.2 has been known to cause issues with the transmission