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Title: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 09 October 2009, 21:34:52
Hi Guys,
Can anyone help???
Miggy 98 2.5 vs failed its mot today on trackrod end and spongey brakes!
Got her home bled the brakes fitted the trackrod end fired her up and she sounds like theres a spanner in the engine? (There isnt a spanner in the engine)
Now shes difficult to start when she does my foot is to the floor and she barely makes tickover and is really rough.
Anyone got any ideas she was fine coming home from the mot??

Cheers
Jay
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: tunnie on 09 October 2009, 21:42:51
check all leccy connectors, maybe accidentally unplugged MAF?
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 09 October 2009, 21:48:27
hi thanks for that where is the maf sensor located?
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: tunnie on 09 October 2009, 21:55:38
can't find the pic i wanted there is one someware of the V6 engine bay, iic on the V6 its on the pipe with runs into the airbox.

But if you don't know where it is, suggests you have not unplugged it. You would not have needed to for any of the work done  :-/
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: Elite Pete on 09 October 2009, 21:58:20
Do the paperclip test
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 09 October 2009, 21:59:02
thats whats confusing me never touched the engine other than checking the oil and the brake fluid res but she sounds very ill???
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: tunnie on 09 October 2009, 22:00:24
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thats whats confusing me never touched the engine other than checking the oil and the brake fluid res but she sounds very ill???

Even if you sucked air into that, it would have nothing to do with the engine.

As EP says, do a paperclip test. and just work around the engine bay making sure all is well.
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 09 October 2009, 22:02:38
i will try the paperclip test tommorow im thinkin of just gettin greenflag out in the mornin see what they say but i honestly think listening to her that somthing major is broken
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: The Red Baron on 09 October 2009, 22:25:24
could be the egr. :)
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 09 October 2009, 22:33:17
whats an egr???
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: The Red Baron on 09 October 2009, 22:39:05
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whats an egr???
ok, so, it takes some starting, when you get it going it sounds like a bag o spanners, if you can get it to rev up i would think it doesnt sound too bad, alas wont tick over & dies. the egr valve is to the left of the engine looking at it from the front on the arm that comes up from the plenum. i had mine blanked of to cure this problem. no doubt others will give you more advice. :y
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: Elite Pete on 10 October 2009, 08:15:05
Where are you in Cheshire JayJay?
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jayjay29 on 10 October 2009, 10:58:04
Hi,
Runcorn
Just had greenflag out he seems to think the cambelt has slipped or a pulley is loose.
Can anyone help???
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: tunnie on 10 October 2009, 11:00:29
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Hi,
Runcorn
Just had greenflag out he seems to think the cambelt has slipped or a pulley is loose.
Can anyone help???

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Where are you in Cheshire JayJay?
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: jonathanh on 10 October 2009, 16:00:56
I was thinking that could have happened

whatever you do, do not start it again.

Best thing to do is to strip it down to take the cambelt cover off - will take you about an hour : take a piccie and we can confirm for you.

if the belt has slipped start praying....
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: dbug on 10 October 2009, 16:03:32
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check all leccy connectors, maybe accidentally unplugged MAF?
V6 will run and rev ok with maf disconnected!
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: GArlington on 11 October 2009, 15:41:49
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I was thinking that could have happened

whatever you do, do not start it again.

Best thing to do is to strip it down to take the cambelt cover off - will take you about an hour : take a piccie and we can confirm for you.

if the belt has slipped start praying....

Interesting, I bought one with jumped cambelt (I do not know if that is different from slipped cambelt, but I would doubt it) and there was NO damage to the engine, when I disassembled it I discovered that there are grooves in all piston where the valves are, so at no point any of the valves will be in contact with the pistons...
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: tunnie on 11 October 2009, 15:48:19
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check all leccy connectors, maybe accidentally unplugged MAF?
V6 will run and rev ok with maf disconnected!

I stand corrected  :y
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2009, 21:29:18
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I was thinking that could have happened

whatever you do, do not start it again.

Best thing to do is to strip it down to take the cambelt cover off - will take you about an hour : take a piccie and we can confirm for you.

if the belt has slipped start praying....

Interesting, I bought one with jumped cambelt (I do not know if that is different from slipped cambelt, but I would doubt it) and there was NO damage to the engine, when I disassembled it I discovered that there are grooves in all piston where the valves are, so at no point any of the valves will be in contact with the pistons...

You sure you weren't just looking at a standard concave piston top?
Title: Re: HELP!! My miggy sounds terminaly ill
Post by: Elite Pete on 11 October 2009, 21:50:52
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I was thinking that could have happened

whatever you do, do not start it again.

Best thing to do is to strip it down to take the cambelt cover off - will take you about an hour : take a piccie and we can confirm for you.

if the belt has slipped start praying....

Interesting, I bought one with jumped cambelt (I do not know if that is different from slipped cambelt, but I would doubt it) and there was NO damage to the engine, when I disassembled it I discovered that there are grooves in all piston where the valves are, so at no point any of the valves will be in contact with the pistons...
I've broken many V6s where the tensioners have packed up or the belt has snapped and the valves have hit the pistons.